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I quite like bear.....and hope he wins
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big brother 9
06-08-2016
Now don't get me wrong but he does act like a numpty but he has been very entertaining.

With him in the limelight it's taken the attention away from lewis and marnie.

He is actually being shafted in some ways.

He deserved a warning for his behaviour but not for invading another housemates face.
Heavy invaded his...not the other way round.

I do think we will soon start to see him turn the behaviour around and we will have a reformed type character win the show
al_capo
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by big brother 9:
“Now don't get me wrong but he does act like a numpty but he has been very entertaining.

With him in the limelight it's taken the attention away from lewis and marnie.

He is actually being shafted in some ways.

He deserved a warning for his behaviour but not for invading another housemates face.
Heavy invaded his...not the other way round.

I do think we will soon start to see him turn the behaviour around and we will have a reformed type character win the show”

Thats a bad move making a positive thread about Bear, Ive made plenty before. People just say hes vile and you're vile for liking him basically.
Lee_Bo
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by big brother 9:
“ turn the behaviour around and we will have a reformed type character win the show”

People love a reformed character story arc. It's a game winning move, if you can really show you've seen the error of your ways. I thought either Saira or Boar might be playing that game, I'm not sure either of them have the perspective and forethought needed.

I still don't like either of them though and Boar angers me greatly.
al_capo
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by Lee_Bo:
“People love a reformed character story arc. It's a game winning move, if you can really show you've seen the error of your ways. I thought either Saira or Boar might be playing that game, I'm not sure either of them have the perspective and forethought needed.

I still don't like either of them though and Boar angers me greatly.”

It depends on what they show us aswell though, surely Bear is calm at times. Last night on live feed he had a decent conversation with Saira but that is never really shown. Obviously they will just want to show the explosive moments. I still think there is more to Bear than what we are seeing.
willywonker
06-08-2016
I think Bear is brilliant, he is playing the HMs like a fiddle.

Seen a lot of vitriol directed towards him on this forum, which make's me like him even more.
MACTOWIN
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by willywonker:
“I think Bear is brilliant, he is playing the HMs like a fiddle.

Seen a lot of vitriol directed towards him on this forum, which make's me like him even more. ”

OK you think he is brilliant and to help me understand why he is brilliant I would be interested on three redeeming features he has.
kravchic
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by MACTOWIN:
“OK you think he is brilliant and to help me understand why he is brilliant I would be interested on three redeeming features he has.”

He has pretty eyes, good style, and nice trainers.
Woodbine
06-08-2016
He's too immature, think he's hard and clever when really he's just a whimpering little boy.
Lee_Bo
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by kravchic:
“He has pretty eyes, good style, and nice trainers.”

And an 'asshole' line that goes all the way round his hand?
Stacey_Barlow
06-08-2016
I like Bear.
allie4
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by al_capo:
“It depends on what they show us aswell though, surely Bear is calm at times. Last night on live feed he had a decent conversation with Saira but that is never really shown. Obviously they will just want to show the explosive moments. I still think there is more to Bear than what we are seeing.”

It was shown on LF - so what? All that told me was he can play a totally different part when he needs to. We're all entitled to our own opinions and likes/dislikes. What mystifies me is how people miss his coldness, his lack of conscience and his aggression which he only just manages to control when he doesn't get his way. Honestly, what's to like?
al_capo
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by allie4:
“It was shown on LF - so what? All that told me was he can play a totally different part when he needs to. We're all entitled to our own opinions and likes/dislikes. What mystifies me is how people miss his coldness, his lack of conscience and his aggression which he only just manages to control when he doesn't get his way. Honestly, what's to like?”

No one is denying any of that, none of us have actually said that we think he is a decent person. None of us know what he is really like, the point we are making is that love him or despise him he gets people talking about him. The majority of threads on here are all centred around him, good and bad.
Vicky8675309
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by willywonker:
“I think Bear is brilliant, he is playing the HMs like a fiddle.

Seen a lot of vitriol directed towards him on this forum, which make's me like him even more. ”

Agree but I'm not sure about the "brilliant" part. I enjoy watching him and how others react to him.
summitus
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by willywonker:
“I think Bear is brilliant, he is playing the HMs like a fiddle.

Seen a lot of vitriol directed towards him on this forum, which make's me like him even more. ”

Maybe change the "O" to an " A" in your username ?
JVS
06-08-2016
He's a yob, all mouth and no trousers, but he has so much confidence with the ladies, that's why he took that palm reading by Aubrey so well.
al_capo
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by JVS:
“He's a yob, all mouth and no trousers, but he has so much confidence with the ladies, that's why he took that palm reading by Aubrey so well.”

That may be the case but I dont think that any person is just one thing, I think his nicer side will come out. I think the audience reaction to him will tell him alot and affect what he is going to be like.
Shine_On
06-08-2016
I like him, he's a harmless windup. There are others in there that are much worse than him.
al_capo
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by Shine_On:
“I like him, he's a harmless windup. There are others in there that are much worse than him.”

I cringe when people say "but look at the aggression in his eyes". Next thing you know they will be on bit on the side analysing everyones body language with that Judi James. Im surprised Bear has only kicked off properly once. Had someone of spat in my food I would of caused mayhem.
Paace
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by big brother 9:
“Now don't get me wrong but he does act like a numpty but he has been very entertaining.

With him in the limelight it's taken the attention away from lewis and marnie.

He is actually being shafted in some ways.

He deserved a warning for his behaviour but not for invading another housemates face.
Heavy invaded his...not the other way round.

I do think we will soon start to see him turn the behaviour around and we will have a reformed type character win the show”

I like your optimism but no way will he change his character or behavior whilst in the BB house . The guy is extremely selfish and has very little, if any, consideration for others .
I know this is harsh but I consider myself a very good judge of character .
big brother 9
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by MACTOWIN:
“OK you think he is brilliant and to help me understand why he is brilliant I would be interested on three redeeming features he has.”

6 pack.
Knows when he is beaten ( aka backing down in the diary room)
He is in the big brother house
big brother 9
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by Paace:
“I like your optimism but no way will he change his character or behavior whilst in the BB house . The guy is extremely selfish and has very little, if any, consideration for others .
I know this is harsh but I consider myself a very good judge of character .”

To be fair though, he could stay exactly the same but big brother just show the odd random acts of kindness and play it off as him changing his character
big brother 9
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by summitus:
“Maybe change the "O" to an " A" in your username ? ”

Summer holidays always brings them out
GibsonSG
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by MACTOWIN:
“OK you think he is brilliant and to help me understand why he is brilliant I would be interested on three redeeming features he has.”

None, none and none. I am absolutely gobsmacked that there are FM's who believe Bear is a reformed character two days after he vandalised the house and was generally abusive. It beggars belief! I am seriously worried about the intelligence at work here.
al_capo
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by GibsonSG:
“None, none and none. I am absolutely gobsmacked that there are FM's who believe Bear is a reformed character two days after he vandalised the house and was generally abusive. It beggars belief! I am seriously worried about the intelligence at work here.”

No one has actually said he is reformed, people are debating whether he could show a more vulnerable side. We find him entertaining, just our opinion. Not a lack of intelligence at all.
muggins14
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by allie4:
“It was shown on LF - so what? All that told me was he can play a totally different part when he needs to. We're all entitled to our own opinions and likes/dislikes. What mystifies me is how people miss his coldness, his lack of conscience and his aggression which he only just manages to control when he doesn't get his way. Honestly, what's to like?”

I watched the Live Feed last night too - what I saw was Saira kissing Bear's arse. She was so obsequious I wondered if he had something on her, it was truly odd. She was telling him how he's misunderstood and he was nodding, she was bleating on about how she gives people a second chance, how she was now on his side, how she understood him, it was embarrassing.

I can only hope it's a game tactic to stop him from nominating her next time, otherwise it was a pretty poor example of sucking up to the bad guy to stay out of his line of fire.

It wasn't much of a conversation either, she was telling him what she thought and, because she was being such a kiss-arse and building up this wonderful man that he is , he was agreeing with her.

I was very disappointed in her.
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