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What did Biggins say to Katie on Monday?
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muggins14
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by NirvanaGirl:
“I'm thinking the transcript was actually from the conversation involving Katie”

If the transcript were true, why wouldn't BB mention the transgression of racism that was shown in that transcript - they mentioned other things we didn't see, why not that?
skp20040
06-08-2016
It just goes to show even when something is said to be fake people want to believe it , the same as when people are accused of a crime and are found not guilty there is always the "no smoke without fire" brigade


If there was any truth in it you would know from whoever gets evicted as they cannot gag people.
Miss.D
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by IWasBored:
“What's going on?”

This is what I am thinking. I am very confused. And where is this transcript?
ritchie2yk
06-08-2016
Well they clearly had opportunity to show stuff like this is an hour highlights programme which makes me question why they didn't.

I can only assume they wanted to protect someone I guess thought was a national treasure, but if so don't air it on tele 5 days later that you gave a warning for it when us viewers would be none the wiser for them not mentioning it
muggins14
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by ritchie2yk:
“Well they clearly had opportunity to show stuff like this is an hour highlights programme which makes me question why they didn't.

I can only assume they wanted to protect someone I guess thought was a national treasure, but if so don't air it on tele 5 days later that you gave a warning for it when us viewers would be none the wiser for them not mentioning it”

Or their legal team told them not to. They do have one you know
AnotherPOV
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by Verence:
“We may not find out what was said until Katie leaves the house and is interviewed by the tabs”

The British tabs are the scum of the Earth, and will twist whatever she says or not to generate headlines to sell copy.
skp20040
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by AnotherPOV:
“The British tabs are the scum of the Earth, and will twist whatever she says or not to generate headlines to sell copy.”

I agree, I have always taken what the media says with a large pinch of salt and you have to read between the lines , it wasn't until the other day when I saw a story that I know personally is 100% fabricated that it made me realise just how much they make up from nowhere .

We will get to hear what he said when other housemates come out and no disrespect to Ms Waissel but we all know she has a reputation as a big drama queen so it will be interesting to hear what the others say.
Etty_Dee
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by skp20040:
“It just goes to show even when something is said to be fake people want to believe it , the same as when people are accused of a crime and are found not guilty there is always the "no smoke without fire" brigade


If there was any truth in it you would know from whoever gets evicted as they cannot gag people.
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People on television shows can be made to sign non disclosure agreements. It's not a new thing.
scout2006
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“It may well be that their legal team advised them not to broadcast the anti-semetic/Nazi comments.”

Originally Posted by CLL Dodge:
“Well we know he made an unnecessary reference to Katie's ethnicity.

But that's all.”

Sorry, I haven't seen tonight's show. Did BB actually say he had made anti-semitic/Nazi comments or made reference to Katie's ethnicity?
Paace
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by skp20040:
“It just goes to show even when something is said to be fake people want to believe it , the same as when people are accused of a crime and are found not guilty there is always the "no smoke without fire" brigade


If there was any truth in it you would know from whoever gets evicted as they cannot gag people.”

It really is sad . Then again nothing surprises me anymore about what is said on forums and social media by some .

The only reason I think they kicked him out is for blaming bisexuals for transmitting aids and what he said to Katie, although I've no idea what that is .
nomad2king
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by CLL Dodge:
“Well we know he made an unnecessary reference to Katie's ethnicity.

But that's all.”

Did he? Actually it was a response to her referring to her faith. Apparently she said she wasn't there to represent the Jewish community and it was his response that was the problem. She was the one that brought up the reference, not him. It's possible he brought up the subject in the first place, perhaps by saying he wasn't there to represent the gay community, but it would seem everything was ok at that point.
Verence
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by scout2006:
“Sorry, I haven't seen tonight's show. Did BB actually say he had made anti-semitic/Nazi comments or made reference to Katie's ethnicity?”

When BB called him into the Diary Room to chuck him out they mentioned that he had been warned about the language he had used a number of times before.

One of the situations they mentioned was something that occurred when Katie said "I'm not here to represent the Jewish community" or wtte but they didn't say or show what Biggins had said in reply
StephenHKent
07-08-2016
http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/c...emitic-8578024
SULLA
07-08-2016
He might have told her to get a grip. She rambles on about nothing at all
nomad2king
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by StephenHKent:
“http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/c...emitic-8578024”

Seems an odd thing to say out of the blue, unless somebody else brought up a word or topic that was connected in some way and he was "connecting" to that.
mellick
07-08-2016
The worst type, I'm afraid to say, are the bisexuals. What it is, is people not wanting to admit they're gay.

This implies there are only gays and straights and no such thing as bisexuals

But suddenly, a killer disease then came along which was attributed to homosexuals – but it was actually a bisexual disease

Erm! make up your mind.
Oliver_Tomlinso
07-08-2016
He said ''You better be careful or they’ll be putting you in a shower and taking you to a room.”, he's just said this in a sun newspaper interview
skp20040
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by mellick:
“The worst type, I'm afraid to say, are the bisexuals. What it is, is people not wanting to admit they're gay.

This implies there are only gays and straights and no such thing as bisexuals

But suddenly, a killer disease then came along which was attributed to homosexuals – but it was actually a bisexual disease

Erm! make up your mind.”

He is wrong on that of course , him to one side and I suppose off topic

We all know the disease was in existence before it passed to man from SIV via blood and meat from monkeys/chimpanzees . Now that then passed via humans via sex, then we get the western world where it did initially become a big killer in the gay community its spread through the heterosexual community in the western world was due to two things , contaminated blood from mainly transfusions or drug needles being shared and via sex and that sex was mainly from bisexual persons (mainly men) then having sex with heterosexual persons.

But I would certainly not agree with calling it a Bisexual disease at all it is a disease that can affect anyone , a disease that sadly no longer gets the publicity it should like the old TV ads , the number of people infected actually reached its highest in the UK in 2011 yet we no longer have the publicity it used to get and they need to look at that
nomad2king
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by skp20040:
“He is wrong on that of course , him to one side and I suppose off topic

We all know the disease was in existence before it passed to man from SIV via blood and meat from monkeys/chimpanzees . Now that then passed via humans via sex, then we get the western world where it did initially become a big killer in the gay community its spread through the heterosexual community in the western world was due to two things , contaminated blood from mainly transfusions or drug needles being shared and via sex and that sex was mainly from bisexual persons (mainly men) then having sex with heterosexual persons.

But I would certainly not agree with calling it a Bisexual disease at all it is a disease that can affect anyone , a disease that sadly no longer gets the publicity it should like the old TV ads , the number of people infected actually reached its highest in the UK in 2011 yet we no longer have the publicity it used to get and they need to look at that”

There are different sub-types of HIV. Each with a favoured entry point. The homosexual sub-type doesn't transmit as easily in a heterosexual sexual way. There is a sub-type that is primarily spread by homosexual acts, and another that is primarily spread by heterosexual acts.
mellick
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by skp20040:
“He is wrong on that of course , him to one side and I suppose off topic

We all know the disease was in existence before it passed to man from SIV via blood and meat from monkeys/chimpanzees . Now that then passed via humans via sex, then we get the western world where it did initially become a big killer in the gay community its spread through the heterosexual community in the western world was due to two things , contaminated blood from mainly transfusions or drug needles being shared and via sex and that sex was mainly from bisexual persons (mainly men) then having sex with heterosexual persons.

But I would certainly not agree with calling it a Bisexual disease at all it is a disease that can affect anyone , a disease that sadly no longer gets the publicity it should like the old TV ads , the number of people infected actually reached its highest in the UK in 2011 yet we no longer have the publicity it used to get and they need to look at that”

My point was that one minute he was denying bisexuals, the next he was blaming them for something
skp20040
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by mellick:
“My point was that one minute he was denying bisexuals, the next he was blaming them for something”

I know I was just adding my thoughts on the matter of AIDS/HIV rather than Biggins which is why it went a bit off topic
~V~
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by Fanntastik:
“Maybe he agreed to leave without kicking up a fuss in exchange of what he said to Katie not being aired. Just a guess.”

Dunno. He looked totally nonplussed about the whole thing.

It took him a while to realise he was being kicked out. He can't act. See Rocky Horror for proof of that 😃
CLL Dodge
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by StephenHKent:
“http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/c...emitic-8578024”

So too offensive to be screened but not in itself worthy of a removal. It took a couple of references to bisexuals (both considered OK to be screened) to do that.
JVS
07-08-2016
Biggins' removal has been very carefully planned and managed, the Katie ethnicity thing was skirted over and the bisexual/aids convos given prominence. Biggins consequently left with his reputation barely tarnished - with BB just looking heavy handed and overly strict. An amicable agreement and a small price to pay to save his career.
skp20040
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by JVS:
“Biggins' removal has been very carefully planned and managed, the Katie ethnicity thing was skirted over and the bisexual/aids convos given prominence. Biggins consequently left with his reputation barely tarnished - with BB just looking heavy handed and overly strict. An amicable agreement and a small price to pay to save his career.”

Time will tell what was said but re Katies ethnicity , she is white British from Harefield her religion is Jewish.
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