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The reason why people are defend Biggins is...
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a01020304
07-08-2016
what biggins said was the truth, far too many people still think hiv is a gay disease and they wont get it, the fact is staights and bisexuals are the ones that are spreading it faster around the world as they think they wont get it or dont have it.

HIV/AIDS is NOT a gay disease, anyone can get it

to say that bisexuals are not at fault is wrong and for biggins to be thrown out for telling the truth is wrong., there is much more worse stuff thats been said and done in the house yet nothing is done about it
Davidsaid
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by Eurostar:
“Biggins thinks a rogue member of the production team leaked the story to the media and then BB were forced to take action.”

The walking xmas decoration should have came out on friday night or Saturday morning with an instant apology, but no the greedy old fool waited for his fat pay check from the sun on sunday to waffle some poor me crap.
lea27
07-08-2016
Why has Renee not been chucked out?
sorcha_healy27
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“And that's the crux of the matter . You have your view , I have mine and Biggins has his . Free speech . Or in BB's case not .”

He had 3 chances to stop breaking the rules as he knew they existed when signing up for BB.

These rules were outlined to all the housemates. He broke the rules continuously and paid the price.

The argument about freedom of speech is fair but it's not like he didn't know people have been removed from the house before so they can't really be outraged about that
karl_kennedy
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“He had 3 chances to stop breaking the rules as he knew they existed when signing up for BB.
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you talk as if BB policy is akin to that of the European Court of Justice....as opposed to some dimwitted media graduates making it up as they go along
White-Knight
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“The argument about freedom of speech is fair but it's not like he didn't know people have been removed from the house before so they can't really be outraged about that”

No what you can be outraged about is that OFCOM allows BB to set such rules and censor speech like this.

It's not as if the programme goes out before the watershed and it's so two faced. They show house mates allegedly having live sex on BB but then censor out freedom of speech, which are nothing more than opinions, on offence grounds.

Personally, I don't watch it any more and never would with censorship like this. Why haven't ch5 banned Jack Dee for his comedy shows which feature paedophilia jokes, sexist jokes, explicit sex jokes? Oh wait, it's because of FREEDOM OF SPEECH - in other words, don't like what's being said, turn over, because he has a RIGHT to his opinion and to say it!
sorcha_healy27
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by karl_kennedy:
“you talk as if BB policy is akin to that of the European Court of Justice....as opposed to some dimwitted media graduates making it up as they go along”

Bollocks. The rules are there even if Ds think they're silly.

It's a fact he kept breaking them and it's also a fact they have and will remove people for similar stuff to Biggins. You can keep bleating about it but everyone knows that bb have rules

Why does he deserve a free pass when others like tila tequila haven't?
sorcha_healy27
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by lea27:
“Why has Renee not been chucked out?”

She probably hadn't received 3 previous warnings
karl_kennedy
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“Bollocks. The rules are there even if Ds think they're silly.

It's a fact he kept breaking them and it's also a fact they have and will remove people for similar stuff to Biggins. You can keep bleating about it but everyone knows that bb have rules

Why does he deserve a free pass when others like tila tequila haven't?”

one-eyed nonsense...,.they all break rules....BB decides on a whim what to punish and what to give a walkover to.....young attention grabbing, phone revenue raisng TOWIE blerts and Geordie Shore bints can do what the fck they like ....others will be hung out to dry because of some hypocritical notion of moral ambiguity,....and that's exactly whats happened here
Hosai
07-08-2016
We all know the warnings are completely abitrary and meaningless as are removals often. I think BB just visualized the "Christopher Biggins thrown out of celeb Big Brother" headlines and made it happen.
M. Tourette
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by Zarla:
“He admitted in an interview in The Sun that he made an offensive remark about the Holocaust - we weren't shown it due to the show's lawyers deciding it was too problematic to broadcast.

I guess you are okay with that, being such a huge, huge Biggins fan.”

Ok BUT if he was on a final warning why did they not evict him at the time if it was that offensive?.

Personally I think his comments about bisexuals originally was offensive and only because of that did his second comments become affected by comparison. If you only look at the second comments about AIDS and the history it is not as discriminatory.

It was the accumulative effect that evicted him not any antisemitic jokes.
postit
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by Zarla:
“The Biggins love is strong in this poster.

It's not that it caused offence to viewers, it caused offence to housemates!”

Who strangely, didn't seem in the slightest bit offended
los.kav
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by ahoyy:
“It's freedom of speech.
Change the word to toycar or rabbit and it will still be a silly conspiracy theory. Change the word to whatever you want and it's still freedom of speech. Ban people from saying words all you like, they will still think it though. To be against free speech, however repellent it may or may not be, is to be against freedom.”

Freedom of speech means you can say what you like without the government getting at you. It doesn't cover tv shows that have clear rules laid out at the beginning.
sorcha_healy27
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by karl_kennedy:
“one-eyed nonsense...,.they all break rules....BB decides on a whim what to punish and what to give a walkover to.....young attention grabbing, phone revenue raisng TOWIE blerts and Geordie Shore bints can do what the fck they like ....others will be hung out to dry because of some hypocritical notion of moral ambiguity,....and that's exactly whats happened here”

Yes I know it's completely farcical but the fact is Biggins was warned 3 times.
Rosie Red
07-08-2016
Irrespective of whether he deserved it or not, he doesn't come across to me as a particularly nice person. Rather as someone with an overflated ego and a sense of entitlement
Desy Boy
07-08-2016
I think that it's a matter for the LGBT community. People like me who are outsiders simply don't understand the nuances. Is there a bisexual community? Is Biggins just butthurt because he was once dumped for a woman? Is this just a conspiracy or is there scientific concensus on this? If you're outside that LGBT scope it's very hard to comment. For me I usually veer towards a freedom of speech and the freedom of judgement. Honest human interaction gives you honest understanding of true nature. However I also understand that absolute honesty can lead to absolute carnage especially where there is a power imbalance, so it tends to be a matter of fact and degree.

Wow, that took a long time to say absolutely nothing.
los.kav
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by Desy Boy:
“I think that it's a matter for the LGBT community. People like me who are outsiders simply don't understand the nuances. Is there a bisexual community? Is Biggins just butthurt because he was once dumped for a woman? Is this just a conspiracy or is there scientific concensus on this? If you're outside that LGBT scope it's very hard to comment. For me I usually veer towards a freedom of speech and the freedom of judgement. Honest human interaction gives you honest understanding of true nature. However I also understand that absolute honesty can lead to absolute carnage especially where there is a power imbalance, so it tends to be a matter of fact and degree.

Wow, that took a long time to say absolutely nothing.”

It's self loathing, I think. He himself, while gay, pretended to be bisexual, married a woman, and wasted several years of her life knowing he couldn't love her the way she loved him. Now he seems to think that all bi people have the same experience he had, and are only pretending, like he did.
Desy Boy
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by White-Knight:
“No what you can be outraged about is that OFCOM allows BB to set such rules and censor speech like this.

It's not as if the programme goes out before the watershed and it's so two faced. They show house mates allegedly having live sex on BB but then censor out freedom of speech, which are nothing more than opinions, on offence grounds.

Personally, I don't watch it any more and never would with censorship like this. Why haven't ch5 banned Jack Dee for his comedy shows which feature paedophilia jokes, sexist jokes, explicit sex jokes? Oh wait, it's because of FREEDOM OF SPEECH - in other words, don't like what's being said, turn over, because he has a RIGHT to his opinion and to say it!”

I understand exactly what you're saying and as a viewer I absolutely agree. However we are viewers not producers. It is for the producers of each show to decide what they want their content to be and what they want to and don't want to be identified with. The BB producers have decided they they don't want to be associated with anti-Semitism and/or bi-phobia (did I just make up a word??!!?) and as producers that is their wont. As viewers we can disagree but our only substantial vehicle for disagreement is to switch channels. Other than that it's their product and they decide it's flavour.
JVB69
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by Desy Boy:
“I think that it's a matter for the LGBT community. People like me who are outsiders simply don't understand the nuances. Is there a bisexual community? Is Biggins just butthurt because he was once dumped for a woman? Is this just a conspiracy or is there scientific concensus on this? If you're outside that LGBT scope it's very hard to comment. For me I usually veer towards a freedom of speech and the freedom of judgement. Honest human interaction gives you honest understanding of true nature. However I also understand that absolute honesty can lead to absolute carnage especially where there is a power imbalance, so it tends to be a matter of fact and degree.

Wow, that took a long time to say absolutely nothing.”

You said an awful lot actually. A lot of Lesbians have been hurt by women who chose men (bisexuals obvi) and won't entertain a relationship with you if you tell them you are bisexual. I can't speak for the men . You are often seen as not serious about a same sex relationship and just experiencing so it is difficult and I have found myself very lonely at times when trying to fit into the LGBT community.
Desy Boy
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by los.kav:
“It's self loathing, I think. He himself, while gay, pretended to be bisexual, married a woman, and wasted several years of her life knowing he couldn't love her the way she loved him. Now he seems to think that all bi people have the same experience he had, and are only pretending, like he did.”

Ahh, didn't know that. That could well be it. An inability to step outside of his own experience. Guilt and self-loathing turned on others. At the end of the day we are selfish creatures who find it hard to exercise empathy or impartial judgement.
sutie
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by jaycee331:
“Hatred? Are we watching the same program?



Ah here we go. And people who dish unnecessary insults to anyone who has an opposing view are such a credit to reasoned debate and society eh.”





I'm finding it a real stretch to find any 'hatred' in what he said. Thoughtless, yes, but when did we start condemning people for being thoughtless? The four young protagonists would have been out on their ear within days!

I found no malice in what he said. He was simply naive to air his comments in today's 'Say nothing, offend no-one' society.
JVB69
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by revolver44:
“You'd have to be a pretty fragile and delicate little thing to be offended by his comments that were aired tonight surely? Or is it just me that thinks it was a big fuss over nothing?”

I agree with you. .... I don't think he said anything wrong. In fact part of what he said is fact. He just didn't put it into context or talk about other factors. I am bisexual and I was not offended .... I was miffed at what he said about me really being gay as I like both sexes and my current and previous relationships are with the opposite sex. But I am not offended he has an opinion. In my experience most gay people dislike bisexuals and have told me that. They don't enter into relationships once I tell them I am bi and their views why are far worse than Biggins. .....seems a lot of people with no idea are offering dedicated on our behalf
mellick
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by a01020304:
“what biggins said was the truth, far too many people still think hiv is a gay disease and they wont get it, the fact is staights and bisexuals are the ones that are spreading it faster around the world as they think they wont get it or dont have it.

HIV/AIDS is NOT a gay disease, anyone can get it

to say that bisexuals are not at fault is wrong and for biggins to be thrown out for telling the truth is wrong there is much more worse stuff thats been said and done in the house yet nothing is done about it”

So you believe Biggins statement was true?

But suddenly, a killer disease then came along which was attributed to homosexuals – but it was actually a bisexual disease

REALLY?

Hmmm!!!
sutie
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by Rosie Red:
“Irrespective of whether he deserved it or not, he doesn't come across to me as a particularly nice person. Rather as someone with an overflated ego and a sense of entitlement”




Like all the rest of them do you mean?
Desy Boy
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by JVB69:
“You said an awful lot actually. A lot of Lesbians have been hurt by women who chose men (bisexuals obvi) and won't entertain a relationship with you if you tell them you are bisexual. I can't speak for the men . You are often seen as not serious about a same sex relationship and just experiencing so it is difficult and I have found myself very lonely at times when trying to fit into the LGBT community.”

Excuse me I'm a bit of a caveman, but I think that maybe a factor is that bisexual men and women simply have a theoretically bigger catchment area. If you are dating a bisexual person and you are insecure in yourself and have been hurt before your antennas would be buzzing like crazy everytime you went out. It usually doesn't take that much to turn that insecurity and hurt onto the other person and people like them. We haven't evolved past those emotions neither.

Seems like Biggins was trying to rationalise and tame his inner animal into generic conspiracy theories and negative depictions.

It's all very interesting although I acknowledge that it can also be very isolating for some. I do think that these dynamics, and this one is new to me, should be shown and not censored or curtailed as eventually it gives us better understanding of human interaction and social totem poling. Cutting these conversations off before they can start just leads to repression and outbursts of anger rather than learning and advancement.
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