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Old 07-08-2016, 00:45
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I find violence either against an object or a person way more offensive then some off the cuff remarks.
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Old 07-08-2016, 00:45
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They probably do, but we all live in the real world.

Yes but those jokes goes down well in his celeb circle of friends, especially the jewish celebs apparently....
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Old 07-08-2016, 00:46
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So C5 try to cover it up by ejecting Biggins and bringing all our attention to thjs in the first place?
No ... C5 cherry pick the bits they wish to show us without actually giving us all the relevant information re his ejection.
Information which we subsequently find out via an exclusive interview he himself gives to The Sun.
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Old 07-08-2016, 00:46
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So C5 try to cover it up by ejecting Biggins and bringing all our attention to thjs in the first place?
I think they meant C5 tried to cover it all up by not revealing what Biggins had said to Katie
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Old 07-08-2016, 00:46
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So in actual fact that transcript someone came on here with last night was the truth.
"actual fact"? what in the world? no, it was not true.

the transcript doesn't reflect anything in the article.
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Old 07-08-2016, 00:46
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No sure how you can conclude that given that the comment he apoligises for in the Sun article bears no similarity to the bogus transcript.
Note the inclusion of Black people in Biggins quotes. The transcript may not be valid, but he certainly said more than what we've been led to believe and seeing as these statements would have been given prior to his aired exit, Biggins was unaware of what/wasn't shown as well. So he tried to (poorly, densely) dismiss everything including a comment(s) made about Black minorities.
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Old 07-08-2016, 00:47
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I'm really pissed off they didn't show the conversation between him and Katie I feel cheated !

I think thats the kind of conversations or comments that can hurt C5's money so i can see why they did not show that.
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Old 07-08-2016, 00:47
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So throwing something at a mirror is more offensive that making a joke about a time where millions of people were mercilessly killed.

wow!

I find violence either against an object or a person way more offensive then some off the cuff remarks.
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Old 07-08-2016, 00:48
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Note the inclusion of Black people in Biggins quotes. The transcript may not be valid, but he certainly said more than what we've been led to believe and seeing as these statements would have been given prior to his aired exit, Biggins was unaware of what/wasn't shown as well. So he tried to (poorly, densely) dismiss everything including a comment(s) made about Black minorities.
Yeah it's obvious he's also said stuff about black people, why would he feel the need to tell us how much he loves them in Hackney if he hadn't said anything in the house
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Old 07-08-2016, 00:49
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It looks like the transcript is nearer to the truth than C5 would have you believe.
Apparently so Fried .......Seems I was just peddling supposition though that didn't make it fact when I dared to suggest this was probably the case
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Old 07-08-2016, 00:49
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Yeh, lets still bring Bear into it.

It's ok to make jokes about concentration camps, it's ok for people to spit in other peoples drinks and food, but anything Bear does is a throw out offence,
He threw a mug at a wall and apparently he has aggression in his eyes. Thats enough reason to bring him into anything for some people. I dont get how people can feel so strongly about a reality star acting like a tit. I mean dont they weight up all of the really bad stuff happening in the world before they label people like Bear scum and vile. I think there are a lot of people who could be named those things in this world but he is not one of them.
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Old 07-08-2016, 00:49
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Yes it seems so. It was pretty obvious that BB would sweep as much under the carpet as possible and try to fob us all off with some pathetic reason about bisexuals being offended by his views.
I hate all this PC nonsense so much!
a faked transcript is still a faked transcript.

why can't people stick to what was actually said instead of making it up?

you have an interview with quotes. that's what was said.

it's bad enough without believing random debunked hoaxes.
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Old 07-08-2016, 00:51
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I must be heartless because that doesn't offend me even a little bit.

Eventually we're just going to have to come up with 2-3 words as a society that we can all agree on is inoffensive and only speak those 2-3 words at all times to satisfy the constantly offended society we now live in. Funny thing is i'm sure in time people would start to find 1 of those words offensive for whatever reason and it would be down to 2 words until we simply don't speak and do hand gestures and facial expressions, and then people find things offensive about that until we basically become robots without expression, emotion or independent thought.
^^^^^^^

This. Basically.
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Old 07-08-2016, 00:52
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Note the inclusion of Black people in Biggins quotes. The transcript may not be valid, but he certainly said more than what we've been led to believe and seeing as these statements would have been given prior to his aired exit, Biggins was unaware of what/wasn't shown as well. So he tried to (poorly, densely) dismiss everything including a comment(s) made about Black minorities.
I noticed that, also. Why did he mention back people in there article, it is a bit odd if he is not referring to something that was said in the house.

Whatever he said, if that is indeed his opinion then he should own up to it and not cop out by mentioning that he has Jewish and bisexual friends, and black neighbours (if he mentioned them, that is). I'd have bit more respect for him if he stood by everything he said in the house.
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Old 07-08-2016, 00:56
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Agreed, spitting in food and drink, making jokes about concentration camps, threatening people with violence are all acceptable to some on here, but Bear raises his voice to much and all hell breaks loose with people crying there eyes out wanting him removed.

He threw a mug at a wall and apparently he has aggression in his eyes. Thats enough reason to bring him into anything for some people. I dont get how people can feel so strongly about a reality star acting like a tit. I mean dont they weight up all of the really bad stuff happening in the world before they label people like Bear scum and vile. I think there are a lot of people who could be named those things in this world but he is not one of them.
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Old 07-08-2016, 00:57
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Ok reading all of this I can see why he was removed I wish they would have shown his convo with Katie so we weren't so in the dark about it all .
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Old 07-08-2016, 00:58
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You can guarantee that they will try and sweep the whole thing under the carpet on SOTS tomorrow
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Old 07-08-2016, 00:59
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And of course Dan Wootton got the exclusive...
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Old 07-08-2016, 01:02
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So throwing something at a mirror is more offensive that making a joke about a time where millions of people were mercilessly killed.

wow!
Depends how threatened you feel right now I would suppose? It's been suggested by various diary room voices that they do feel threatened by Bear....right now in a confined space and, let's face it, we aren't privy to all that is going down in there.

I'm, of course, in no way passing over millions being mercilessly killed, please believe me, not even making a resemblance in any way.... but being intimidated and feeling threatened, in a Big Brother House, which, as a viewer, seems to have lost control over housemates, I can only think I wouldn't like to be in the company of Bear in a confined space,
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Old 07-08-2016, 01:04
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a faked transcript is still a faked transcript.

why can't people stick to what was actually said instead of making it up?

you have an interview with quotes. that's what was said.

it's bad enough without believing random debunked hoaxes.
Precisely. By all means people condemn him for what he HAS said but spare us endless posts of outrage over completely fictitious comments.
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Old 07-08-2016, 01:09
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Just going by what we see, which is what we have to do.

When Bear threw the object at the mirror he was in the garden alone.

Heavy D has threatened Bear twice, right in his face in a confined space ( Heavy D is not a little bloke) which for me is a lot more threatening, everyone around seeing it could feel that If they crossed Heavy D they might get the same.

Funnily those incidents are rarely mentioned on here.

Depends how threatened you feel right now I would suppose? It's been suggested by various diary room voices that they do feel threatened by Bear....right now in a confined space and, let's face it, we aren't privy to all that is going down in there.

I'm, of course, in no way passing over millions being mercilessly killed, please believe me, not even making a resemblance in any way.... but being intimidated and feeling threatened, in a Big Brother House, which, as a viewer, seems to have lost control over housemates, I can only think I wouldn't like to be in the company of Bear in a confined space,
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Old 07-08-2016, 01:11
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"I love Jewish people. Listen, my best friend is Lesley Joseph. You can’t get much more Jewish than that."

"I have a lot of bisexual friends and I’m not in any way a bigoted person. I’m 67 and I love everybody. I live in Hackney and I have a lot of black neighbours who are fantastic."

"Katie is a very sensitive girl with a few issues."

Foot -------> Mouth. Bye, darling!
Says Biggins who married a WOMAN in the 70s 😂😂😂
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Old 07-08-2016, 01:12
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Ironically had he been around at the time of the concentration camps he might also have been incarcerated as a gay man. Katie Wiesel does seem extremely sensitive about Jewish people and events - remember she cried when Amy Whitehouse was criticised.
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Old 07-08-2016, 01:15
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unrepentant? " Katie has issues"? " I could have said worse"?
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Old 07-08-2016, 01:15
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So throwing something at a mirror is more offensive that making a joke about a time where millions of people were mercilessly killed.

wow!
For me yes. I'm also Jewish with a black wife.
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