Oh right so you weren't offended so this whole thing has been a fuss over nothing. Surely it must occur to you that people are offended by different things.

Clearly it's all Katie's fault..........ROLLEYES

I think you could be right. The Hackney/black neighbours bit is imo definitely a response to something he said in the house.

After hearing him talk last night about 'the bisexuals causing the AIDS epedemic', it's really not a stretch to believe him entirely capable of saying everything that was in that transcript.

Yes I agree - I wasn't aware of the joke till reading it on this thread. Free speech is a must and Biggins understanding however uneducated and ill-informed it is about the bisexual community should be challenged discussed and debated not brushed under the carpet, its how people learn the truth. However to make a joke about a concentration camp is not about free speech, he is not debating the subject he is making fun belittling it, this is wrong unacceptable and should be challenged. Should he have been asked to leave - yes I think he should. Should bear have been asked to leave for throwing a mug at a glass window - again yes he should - violence Never should be debated or accepted - Should Aubrey have been removed for spitting in someones food again yes I think she should have, its basically an assault in my opinion. These three things are unacceptable for adult behaviour - if you cannot keep a modicum of decency while sharing a house with other people than you should not be allowed to stay.

I agree.

Certainly nothing to be given a warning for.

Bb are protecting him. The leak was real .. that black comment says it all

Can't trust this show anymore they manipulate hide and lie to the viewers
And show only what they want not what happens .

dear me...people wont let it go will they...

I have some magic beans on special offer...PM me...

Well I've stopped watching due to this issue. I'm exhausted with people being offended over comments. It's getting beyond dreary now.

If people can't handle a few comments from a 67 year old - hell - we're ALL adults, we can handle it!

Biggins is old school, for when certain views were not taken as offensive as they are today.

Should he have been kicked out? yes of course, no question about that. He knew the rules, all he had to do was be quiet.

My only issue is that if Biggins gets kicked out for that, what about Bears violent behaviour? surely isnt that an offence as well?

No consistency from BB ok for some but not for others is there policy it seems!

Poor me, poor me.
I'm so sorry, boohoo.
Mind I wont mention a thing until i get a big fat paycheck from a sunday paper because i am that sorry and ashamed, oh pooor me..boohoo.

Precious snowflakes virtue signalling left, right and centre. Mainly on the left, of course.

Biggins mistake was feeling too relaxed in there and falling into the trap of just being himself..like him or loathe him he isn't the first person in the world to have an opinion that is considered controversial or a sense of humour that is a bit shocking and could offend..
Most people tell jokes etc when in close circles of friends that they may not tell their mother or wider set of people as they may not approve of their humour.many emergency service people have quite sick senses of humour just to help them deal with their day to day lives for example.
The real world is not diamond white rylan nashers spouting everything people want to hear to receive an applause..my real world is people who dare to state Their case when it differs to mine..I love people who aren't scared to just be themselves..
Biggins did not say he agreed with hitlers actions..biggins was jokingly comparing the regime of Bb to the nazis regime..all being to what to do and ushering into a shower was a joke example..it was actually a lighthearted dig at the holocaust.was this making light of actual events????
It was it was a comparison made tongue in cheek!!!!!
The aids comments are his views..renee shared the same view and said it was a man made disease to kill off the third world population..is that not just as offensive?
I can see what biggins was saying about bisexual people..some..not all bisexual people claim to be so as it is currently cool to be a woman who sleeps with both men and women..some women claim to be bisexual for attention seeking purposes..it certainly attracts the attention of some men as many will find the idea a turn on..when the truth outs many females claiming this have actually just snogged another female in a drunken game and have taken it no further but have enjoyed the attention that brought them..so biggins is absolutely spot on on this point..
It is a messed up world we live in where someone is ousted from a show for having an opinion and a sense of humour most people have (just behind closed doors) and yet possibly one of the most offensive ,horrible,violent,borderline psychopathic unknown celeb stays put..

Apologies if this has already been mentioned, but I haven't seen it so far...

BB did make a reference to the Katie incident in their final diary room talk with him before eviction.

No, they didn't mentioned the death-camp joke. What they did say was this though, "You told Katie she wasn't in here representing all the Jewish people."

We don't know the context of course, only that it occurred in the last few days and that it was included as an example of Biggins unacceptable behaviour.

So of course we would be drawing conclusions... But hey, let's draw some! Because the timing of this comment would seem to suggest a correlation to the death camp joke. In the interview Biggins says that Katie had not been upset at the time, he also states he hadn't really consciously realised his joke was in reference to the genocide of Jewish people until afterwards and that he'd then begged her for forgiveness.

I put it to you that Katie DID express her distaste at the joke, either at the time or after. And Biggins responded with that comment.

I confess this to be speculation of course. The possibility exists that the "you don't represent Jewish people" comment was completely unrelated to the joke. If so though I put it to you that it was a very strange thing to pipe up with if coming from someone who had not only just been reprimanded for a death-camp gag but who had also begged forgiveness from it.

From what Biggins has described, I don't agree with his removal. Bear, Marnie, Aubrey and Heavy D's behaviour and language has been much more offensive.

A poor joke told in bad taste may deserve a warning, but BB has gone overboard with this. I wonder if someone in production took offense and has been campaigning behind the scenes. It seems out of proportion.

Just read the interview & imo, it does seem full of apologies followed by lots of buts............but Lesley Joseph is my friend, Katie has issues (what's that got to do with anything) I love everyone, I have black neighbours etc
By the sound of things he's said an awful lot more than what he was ejected for, ch5 just chose not to show.
I think Biggin's problem is he believes all the hype about being the nation's sweetheart & can therefore say & do whatever the hell he likes, not this time you bigoted dinosaur.
Personally I'm glad he's been shown for what he really is, I've never liked the man, underneath all that "lovely, harmless Biggins & manic laugh" is, imo, a very unpleasant man.
As for the comparisons as to why Bear didn't get turfed out on his ear, there really is no comparison. Bear smashed a mirror & yes the idiot should've been shown the door but the difference is, nobody was hurt, he didn't verbally offend anyone with the likes of the revolting comment Biggins made. My reaction to Bear doing that was, what a plonker but my reaction to Biggin's comment was one of disgust.

Does it seem strange that the "fake transcript" had mentioned Biggins and the holocaust!
He goes on to say he thought BB was protecting him by not broadcasting his remarks to Katie, I'm all for free speech but I'm now thinking there is more to this

What precious snowflakes?
Big brother took the decision to remove him after 3 previous warnings

It's his own fault.

During the highlights show, Biggins did say he had been spoken to a number of times about comments he'd made.
Perhaps it was the failure to shut his yap and continue making those comments that got him the boot, rather than any one comment in isolation.

He clearly holds some bigoted opinions. "My best friend is Jewish..." just doesn't wash anymore.
He's a relic, but that's no excuse.
The affable exterior has always masked nastiness, imo.
I dislike seeing the man lauded as a national treasure as I have always found him to be most unpleasant.

so glad he was kicked out.

No, because despite a couple of people's claims to the contrary the 'concentration camp' joke story was released by the sun at 8:53pm on the night of the transcript. And that story itself had come from Twitter rumours that had began all afternoon. The transcript itself then appeared at 10:00pm. Squirrel Nutkins therefore could have based the parody around that story.

^ Oh I think so. Either he's seriously arrogant and thought BB would just continue to indulge his deliberate bigotry, what with him being BB's favourite jolly uncle, or he's genuinely as ignorant as he comes across and just can't help the unreconstructed garbage that comes out of his mouth.

Either way, good riddance.

[quote=shirlit was actually a lighthearted dig at the holocaust.was this making light of actual events???[/QUOTE]

Yes, thats exactly what it was doing.

Is there any reason to believe that Biggins, just like C5, hasn't played down what he said? He seems to be apologising to black people but doesn't specify what he said. The insult to Katie seems feeble so perhaps there is more to it than he admits.
Maybe we have been too quick to accept Ch5's dismissal of the transcript. BB should show the relevant footage.

I was actually wondering why he brought up his black neighbours. Did he say anything that was racist against PoC?