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Interesting that he said he was glad he didn't say anything worse!
I think Biggins has got away with this whole - I can be risque and say what I like because life's just a big hoot and I love everyone and they all love me - persona for too long! I'm not convinced his friends always think his comments are so fabulous! I suspect they'll be more wary after this anyway! |
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What interests me is that Biggins was in the jungle for weeks in IACGMOOH. If this is how Biggins is, it surely is likely that during that show he'd have come out with some unpleasant remarks. Were they simply edited out?
The only conclusion I can come to is that this CBB has created such an unsafe and challenging environment that people's worst traits come out. And this is a reflection on what BB has become. |
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Didnt he say he had been chastised thrice?
So that would be the original bi comment, and the shower joke.....so what was the third? |
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Joke or not I'm glad he got kicked out. Good riddance!
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So he makes offensive remarks then does lots of tabloid interviews and gets paid for them.
If he was truly sorry he would donate the interview fees to charity. When someone donates their fee or is not taking payment it is listed at the end of the interview saying so. He seems a bitchy old queen to me. |
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Why have channel 5 not shown this?
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Didnt he say he had been chastised thrice?
So that would be the original bi comment, and the shower joke.....so what was the third? |
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the best part about all the outrage over biggins' remarks is people who can't stop themselves from using slurs and hateful language when expressing their outrage....
glass houses, people. |
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Biggins said that BB didn't air the conversation to protect him.
Isn't Biggins admitting then he knows he has done wrong by saying this and a bit dim to say this in an interview and to refer to things like his black neighbours in Hackney when BB havent even shown any comments towards black people. He is digging a bigger hole for himself |
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Why have channel 5 not shown this?
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He says he wasn't aware at the time that his comment meant that!.But when asked if he was referring to the extermination showers.He said he suppose he was. He's just a witty man.He says he didn't mean to offend.
What I find sad is that it's not Katie who made the complaint.But her family watching the show who are going a lot on hearsay. Despite what her family said they've brought up a lot of hearsay stuff. He said nothing anti Semitic.At worst it was an I'll thought out joke. I believe her family are also not thinking this through. Don't believe for one minute he would have said that 50 years ago when despite being 30 years after the war the relatives of the jews who suffered in whatever way knew those people personally. Despite knowing it younger people today have little concept of the time factor involved . Her mother is pushing views of the generation or even two before her It is 70 years ago minimum and over 80 since anti scemitism started .Even before that with the Hitler Youth movement. Katie should be asked and the other housemates based on a silly comment which like Chinese whispers has become anti scemitism.I doubt if he even thought about what he was saying. He certainly does not show anything but liking to her. |
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"I love Jewish people. Listen, my best friend is Lesley Joseph. You can’t get much more Jewish than that."
"I have a lot of bisexual friends and I’m not in any way a bigoted person. I’m 67 and I love everybody. I live in Hackney and I have a lot of black neighbours who are fantastic." "Katie is a very sensitive girl with a few issues." Foot -------> Mouth. Bye, darling! Quote:
I noticed that, also. Why did he mention back people in there article, it is a bit odd if he is not referring to something that was said in the house.
Whatever he said, if that is indeed his opinion then he should own up to it and not cop out by mentioning that he has Jewish and bisexual friends, and black neighbours (if he mentioned them, that is). I'd have bit more respect for him if he stood by everything he said in the house. Quote:
What I want to know is how the subject arose in the first place. It's possible that somebody else made a concentration camp related comment and Biiggins continued the theme. It does seem an odd comment to make, if there is no other connected comment. Eg In the DR he had used the word s---, he then used the word again in another context(just had a good s---?). The 2nd use only arose because of the 1st use. When you hear or think something, the brain will come up with all sorts of connected and associated things of one sort or another.
Just trying to find an explanation for what at the moment seems an odd comment to make, "out of the blue". Quote:
Just read the interview & imo, it does seem full of apologies followed by lots of buts............but Lesley Joseph is my friend, Katie has issues (what's that got to do with anything) I love everyone, I have black neighbours etc
By the sound of things he's said an awful lot more than what he was ejected for, ch5 just chose not to show. I think Biggin's problem is he believes all the hype about being the nation's sweetheart & can therefore say & do whatever the hell he likes, not this time you bigoted dinosaur. Personally I'm glad he's been shown for what he really is, I've never liked the man, underneath all that "lovely, harmless Biggins & manic laugh" is, imo, a very unpleasant man. As for the comparisons as to why Bear didn't get turfed out on his ear, there really is no comparison. Bear smashed a mirror & yes the idiot should've been shown the door but the difference is, nobody was hurt, he didn't verbally offend anyone with the likes of the revolting comment Biggins made. My reaction to Bear doing that was, what a plonker but my reaction to Biggin's comment was one of disgust. There were a few occasions in IAC when I thought what a duplicitous fake his "lovely, harmless" persona was. |
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What interests me is that Biggins was in the jungle for weeks in IACGMOOH. If this is how Biggins is, it surely is likely that during that show he'd have come out with some unpleasant remarks. Were they simply edited out?
The only conclusion I can come to is that this CBB has created such an unsafe and challenging environment that people's worst traits come out. And this is a reflection on what BB has become. Quote:
He says he wasn't aware at the time that his comment meant that!.But when asked if he was referring to the extermination showers.He said he suppose he was. He's just a witty man.He says he didn't mean to offend.
What I find sad is that it's not Katie who made the complaint.But her family watching the show who are going a lot on hearsay. Despite what her family said they've brought up a lot of hearsay stuff. He said nothing anti Semitic.At worst it was an I'll thought out joke. I believe her family are also not thinking this through. Don't believe for one minute he would have said that 50 years ago when despite being 30 years after the war the relatives of the jews who suffered in whatever way knew those people personally. Despite knowing it younger people today have little concept of the time factor involved . Her mother is pushing views of the generation or even two before her It is 70 years ago minimum and over 80 since anti scemitism started .Even before that with the Hitler Youth movement. Katie should be asked and the other housemates based on a silly comment which like Chinese whispers has become anti scemitism.I doubt if he even thought about what he was saying. He certainly does not show anything but liking to her. As a nation we have always laughed at jokes about the war (shh, don't mention the war ) but jokes are made with certain audiences in mind, certain parameters and generally knowing who you're talking to. If you go to see a comedian, or turn on the TV to watch some comedy show that's risque, you tend to know what you're going to get and you chose to attend/watch or not. I also think that we should joke about things that are what some consider to be untouchable topics, but I also understand that people have a right to be offended by same. I think BB decided that they don't know what Biggins could say next, he'd already paid no heed to their warnings and decided that an accumulation of the 3 incidents called for his removal. I also cannot imagine that Katie didn't at least talk to BB about the incident, the HMs tend to talk to BB about most things, whether asked or not. I can't imagine they didn't ask her something about it. |
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The bisexual and AIDS comment shown on the highlights show yesterday .
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The distinction, for me at least, is that he wasn't saying 'all jews should be gassed' that's hate speech. He was simply referencing a time in history and comparing it to how they are treated in the house. It was a bad joke but it wasn't meant to offend.
To deny the holocaust is to diminish it's atrocity and the fight Jewish people have faced. (I'm not Jewish) Again, the bisexual thing was the opinion of an old, out of touch gentleman. Again, people are allowed to have opinions and hopefully are educated along the way. Saying that bisexual assisted the spread of a predominantly homosexual disease is again an opinion. I'm not a fan of the Bigz but I don't think he should have been removed. |
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No, he said it before he got pulled in for those.
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Classic victim blaming. Disgusting and shows that he doesn't really think that he did anything wrong
He's covering all his options. He knows perfectly well that he has said things that are unacceptable and he's covering his backside - without realising that he's just dug himself a bigger hole. It's the kind of joke that gets made to shocked gasps in the drag community (certainly in the 1980s when I used to frequent such places) where the more shocking the better. He is obviously too stupid to realise that what someone can get away with in a venue filled with a niche audience is totally wrong for saying in a public arena. Spot on There were a few occasions in IAC when I thought what a duplicitous fake his "lovely, harmless" persona was. Yes, he can get away with a lot, as long as he adds that insincere laugh at the end of his sentences. |
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What interests me is that Biggins was in the jungle for weeks in IACGMOOH. If this is how Biggins is, it surely is likely that during that show he'd have come out with some unpleasant remarks. Were they simply edited out?
The only conclusion I can come to is that this CBB has created such an unsafe and challenging environment that people's worst traits come out. And this is a reflection on what BB has become. On that show they only really focus on the trials. You end up seeing very little personality traits of the celebrities. It always me that by the end of the show we never really learn anything about any of them, or what their opinions are on anything. |
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They should have shown all of the comments, not just see of them. It is ridiculous how they pick and choose which ones are more offensive than others. He mentioned women, bisexuals, then the Jews. We did not see the joke, so why have we not seen it? It was a joke, also, which is even more ridiculous, considering his other comments about women, etc.
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Oh right so you weren't offended so this whole thing has been a fuss over nothing. Surely it must occur to you that people are offended by different things.
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I dislike seeing the man lauded as a national treasure as I have always found him to be most unpleasant.
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) but jokes are made with certain audiences in mind, certain parameters and generally knowing who you're talking to. If you go to see a comedian, or turn on the TV to watch some comedy show that's risque, you tend to know what you're going to get and you chose to attend/watch or not.