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Old 22-09-2016, 15:23
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"You are aware aren't you," that promoters would be jumping at the chance of a sure fire hit tour, but in this case they weren't.

They do all the donkey work, find the finance, make all the arrangements, technicians, transport, ticket booking, publicity, etc., etc., the list is endless. All the artist has to do is turn up and cash the cheque at the end of the tour.

In his case he had to do it, putting up the money, that's the biggest risk, I'm sure he was jumping at the chance of going it alone.
Just the sort of stress you need at his age.

By the way, "if the money's right" the Palladium would let you book a performance, reciting "your greatest posts."
I am perfectly aware of promoters I am also perfectly aware many people these days do not use them, not because the promoters are not interested but that they take to big a cut and those well experienced in the business and have their own companies often choose to do it themselves and hire people in

if he is so unpopular that he had no choice but to organise (when in fact he chose to via his company as he has before ) his own tour could you explain why he was a sell out for his performances ? And it is odd how someone who is supposedly not popular can sell out the Royal Albert Hall.
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Old 22-09-2016, 17:06
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I am perfectly aware of promoters I am also perfectly aware many people these days do not use them, not because the promoters are not interested but that they take to big a cut and those well experienced in the business and have their own companies often choose to do it themselves and hire people in

if he is so unpopular that he had no choice but to organise (when in fact he chose to via his company as he has before ) his own tour could you explain why he was a sell out for his performances ? And it is odd how someone who is supposedly not popular can sell out the Royal Albert Hall.
You're like a dog with a bone.

It was only a "mini tour," not a nationwide one like major groups have. So only a few thousand people saw him.
For a few dates it was probably not worth it to the major promoters.
I didn't say he wasn't popular, there must be some he's not annoyed yet, just that he became useless in the job for which he was employed by the BBC.
There's a big difference between hosting a fast-paced, tightly programmed entertainment show and "doing your own thing" in front of a few thousand people.

His problem was that he could no longer distinguish between the two.
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Old 22-09-2016, 20:22
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In yours and some other peoples opinion he does not entertain, there are plenty who feel he does so should he not be hired because some people don't like him and some never have ? If it worked like that the screens would be blank in general.

My point about age is forced retirement is no longer legal other than certain jobs and retirement age has never existed with onscreen actors/entertainers. You feel Bruce cannot do his job there is evidence to the contrary by his popularity.
You are deliberately being obtuse, only popular presenters are employed. Asked Anthea Turner, one of the most popular and highest paid, presenter in her day.
One sleazy wedding and she has barely appeared on television again.
Popular presenters get multiple gigs, Ant and Dec, Claudia, Davina.
No one was falling over to employ Brucie for anything, even Len has done a few bits, the only thing I can remember Bruce doing of late was a thing with Loius and a retrospective with Miranda. That was almost obligatory, they have to have something to show for his obituary.
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Old 26-09-2016, 11:48
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You're like a dog with a bone.

It was only a "mini tour," not a nationwide one like major groups have. So only a few thousand people saw him.
For a few dates it was probably not worth it to the major promoters.
I didn't say he wasn't popular, there must be some he's not annoyed yet, just that he became useless in the job for which he was employed by the BBC.
There's a big difference between hosting a fast-paced, tightly programmed entertainment show and "doing your own thing" in front of a few thousand people.

His problem was that he could no longer distinguish between the two.


Sir Bruces only problem is that he is too talented for his own good, people get jealous of natural talent and a natural ability to effortlessly hold an audience in the palm of his hand.
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Old 26-09-2016, 14:39
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Sir Bruces only problem is that he is too talented for his own good, people get jealous of natural talent and a natural ability to effortlessly hold an audience in the palm of his hand.
That's the best laugh I have had for weeks!

He was rubbish on Sunday Night at The London Palladium and fifty years later, with the same act, he was rubbish on Strictly Come Dancing. His ambition always outweighed his ability.
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Old 26-09-2016, 15:07
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That's the best laugh I have had for weeks!

He was rubbish on Sunday Night at The London Palladium and fifty years later, with the same act, he was rubbish on Strictly Come Dancing. His ambition always outweighed his ability.
I am too young for SNATLP but remember the generation game as part of the strong BBC1 line up in the Mid 70s and have to say he was brilliant on that and only marginally less so when it returned in the early 90s. But I have to agree with the majority on here, for goodness sake the guy is now WELL PAST IT and has been for about 15 years.

I think its a shame he hadn't had the strictly gig when he was in his early 60s as im sure he would have made a success of it but was too old at 76 NEVER MIND 86 to compare the show..................
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Old 26-09-2016, 16:24
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Sir Bruces only problem is that he is too talented for his own good, people get jealous of natural talent and a natural ability to effortlessly hold an audience in the palm of his hand.
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Terry, based upon your delirium induced ravings may I suggest, with the very greatest of respect,that you start taking you medication again,. Indeed, you may, perhaps, need to increase the dose as you seem, increasingly, to be out of touch with reality!


Fforsyth had one big, very big, problem. His ego.
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Old 26-09-2016, 16:39
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The repeated criticism of Bruce for "refusing to let go" when people are still chuntering on about him three series after he was anywhere near the main show is looking ever more ironic by the day.
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Old 26-09-2016, 17:35
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The repeated criticism of Bruce for "refusing to let go" when people are still chuntering on about him three series after he was anywhere near the main show is looking ever more ironic by the day.
you miss the point, the issue about this thread is Forsyth himself saying he will be back for the Christmas special, THATS why the thread exists
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Old 26-09-2016, 17:58
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The repeated criticism of Bruce for "refusing to let go" when people are still chuntering on about him three series after he was anywhere near the main show is looking ever more ironic by the day.
Yes and at the mention of one episode (which before he was unwell was always the plan for the Children in Need and Christmas eps ) , if he is even well enough. The man himself has slowed down in recent years by choice , though he did manage to sell out the Albert Hall which tells me he is far from unpopular as many would say in fact insist is the case . And yet whilst it would be if it happened for one ep so many people are annoyed and saying he basically shouldn't be allowed and that he is not capable of an ep , seems rather odd to feel that way to me.
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Old 26-09-2016, 18:09
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you miss the point, the issue about this thread is Forsyth himself saying he will be back for the Christmas special, THATS why the thread exists
a) The initial article says "a friend says", "a source says", "a BBC insider says" so many times it's almost self-parodic, and at no point quotes Bruce himself or indeed anyone close to him saying he will be back for the Xmas Special

b) The issue with this thread is that someone keeps on bumping it for attention long after the fact and people chomp down hard on it because they need to let us know that they still can't stand Bruce, as though we were ever in any doubt, long after he was in any way relevant to the show.
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Old 26-09-2016, 18:25
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a) The initial article says "a friend says", "a source says", "a BBC insider says" so many times it's almost self-parodic, and at no point quotes Bruce himself or indeed anyone close to him saying he will be back for the Xmas Special

b) The issue with this thread is that someone keeps on bumping it for attention long after the fact and people chomp down hard on it because they need to let us know that they still can't stand Bruce, as though we were ever in any doubt, long after he was in any way relevant to the show.
I thought Forsyth was a brilliant entertainer and am more than happy to admit that on this thread but I am now reminded of a 1983 ABC song
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Old 27-09-2016, 17:13
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I thought Forsyth was a brilliant entertainer and am more than happy to admit that on this thread but I am now reminded of a 1983 ABC song


I quite agree Sir Bruce is a brilliant entertainer.
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Old 27-09-2016, 17:19
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I quite agree Sir Bruce is a brilliant entertainer.
As you are obviously a WUM I will give you the satisfaction of a reply.

my post said NOTHING of the sort
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Old 27-09-2016, 18:46
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Yes and at the mention of one episode (which before he was unwell was always the plan for the Children in Need and Christmas eps ) , if he is even well enough. The man himself has slowed down in recent years by choice , though he did manage to sell out the Albert Hall which tells me he is far from unpopular as many would say in fact insist is the case . And yet whilst it would be if it happened for one ep so many people are annoyed and saying he basically shouldn't be allowed and that he is not capable of an ep , seems rather odd to feel that way to me.


People seem to forget that Sir Bruce sold out The Royal Albert Hall, thank you for reminding us skp.
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Old 27-09-2016, 18:50
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People seem to forget that Sir Bruce sold out The Royal Albert Hall, thank you for reminding us skp.
The Bonzo Dog Doo-dah Band could fill the Albert Hall for one night, so that means nothing.
There was enough old people in London who could fill the Albert Hall to see the old codger "for one last time."

As we've said and you keep ignoring, faffing about on a stage re-living old game show moments, playing the piano badly and attempting to sing, is a lot different to hosting a fast paced variety show, at which he became incompetent at doing.
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Old 27-09-2016, 19:52
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It's Terry who keeps resurrecting this thread.

Because he's been away for more than a year and in ill health, if he did do the Christmas Special this year, I think viewers would be shocked at his performance and appearance. He's likely to be much more frail. Best he's remembered by his fans as he was when he last hosted the show.
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Old 27-09-2016, 20:55
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The Bonzo Dog Doo-dah Band could fill the Albert Hall for one night, so that means nothing.
There was enough old people in London who could fill the Albert Hall to see the old codger "for one last time."

As we've said and you keep ignoring, faffing about on a stage re-living old game show moments, playing the piano badly and attempting to sing, is a lot different to hosting a fast paced variety show, at which he became incompetent at doing.


That seems rather far fetched to me only living legends with real talent are able to fill The Royal Albert Hall and Entertain.
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Old 27-09-2016, 21:00
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That seems rather far fetched to me only living legends with real talent are able to fill The Royal Albert Hall and Entertain.
Terry, all your opinions about Bruce Forsyth seem far-fetched to me.
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Old 27-09-2016, 21:09
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Terry, all your opinions about Bruce Forsyth seem far-fetched to me.
Its actually Sir Bruce, we must not forget that he is now a Knight of The Realm.
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Old 27-09-2016, 21:44
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Its actually Sir Bruce, we must not forget that he is now a Knight of The Realm.
I'm sure he forgets his own name sometimes - so I'm sure he'll forgive us
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Old 27-09-2016, 22:22
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Its actually Sir Bruce, we must not forget that he is now a Knight of The Realm.
Well he'd campaigned long enough to get it and then the vain old fool insisted they all used his title on the programme.

It means nothing these days, Terry.

The Stones', Mick Jagger's got one too, nine years earlier and he was a lot younger than the old codger.

He doesn't insist on anyone introducing them as, "Sir Mick Jagger and the Rolling Stones!"
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Old 29-09-2016, 04:12
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Well he'd campaigned long enough to get it and then the vain old fool insisted they all used his title on the programme.

It means nothing these days, Terry.

The Stones', Mick Jagger's got one too, nine years earlier and he was a lot younger than the old codger.

He doesn't insist on anyone introducing them as, "Sir Mick Jagger and the Rolling Stones!"


I think they used Sir Bruces title out of respect for his amazing achievements as a world class entertainer, Mick has to maintain his youthful rock star image.
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Old 29-09-2016, 08:29
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None of the entertainment Knights (or Dames) insist on being introduced with their title - apart from Bruce.

The fact that he does just shows what a sad vain creature he is - "Look at me - I've been knighted..."

Look at the other far more talented entertainers who have been honoured..... Helen Mirren, Judi Dench, Patrick Stewart, David Jason, Elton John, Cliff Richard, Ben Kingsley..... none of them shove their titles in the publics face - it's only the least talented and least deserving one who does.
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Old 29-09-2016, 09:59
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None of the entertainment Knights (or Dames) insist on being introduced with their title - apart from Bruce.

The fact that he does just shows what a sad vain creature he is - "Look at me - I've been knighted..."

Look at the other far more talented entertainers who have been honoured..... Helen Mirren, Judi Dench, Patrick Stewart, David Jason, Elton John, Cliff Richard, Ben Kingsley..... none of them shove their titles in the publics face - it's only the least talented and least deserving one who does.
ironically the ONLY other one I remember INSISTING on having ALL his titles listed was Savile. on Jim'ill fix it for instance the credits were as long for his "honours" as everything else
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