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Why is it ok to air stuff that causes offence to bisexuals, but not jews?
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Davidsaid
07-08-2016
I am a bit wary posting this, but i find it pretty insulting that bb aired two things that were negative towards bisexuals yet they did not air the thing about jews.

Why do you think this is, and is it right that the two should be differentiated against?

In my opinion both should have been shown because biggins was not ejected on monday for saying whatever it was about jews, so it must not have been offensive enough to merit an ejection..
Goggle girl
07-08-2016
According to Biggins, he thinks that CBB may have been trying to protect his career by not airing it.
All_seeing_eye
07-08-2016
Everything should be shown, all warnings especially.
Goggle girl
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by All_seeing_eye:
“Everything should be shown, all warnings especially.”

I agree. I'm pretty sure that Bear has received unaired warnings and Aubrey received a warning about the spitting.
PabloJ
07-08-2016
[1] Bisexuality is a form of behavior, not an ethnicity or gender.
People who like having sex with men & women are no more a "community", a "minority" or an "identity" than people who like both Star Trek and Star Wars.

[2] There isn't thousands of years of "anti-bisexual" persecution and slaughter culminating in the single worst genocide in humanity's history - the holocaust. There also isn't ongoing hate-speech and conspiracy theories against bisexuals by the Far Right, the Militant Left and Radical Muslims.
Eve Elle
07-08-2016
Because you don't wanna upset the Jewish Anti-Defamation League as they can destroy careers? Ask Gary Oldman...
CLL Dodge
07-08-2016
But the Jewish comment was a bad joke.

The 2nd bisexual comment was an accusation of causing continuing mass deaths.
Davidsaid
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by PabloJ:
“[1] Bisexuality is a form of behavior, not an ethnicity or gender.
People who like having sex with men & women are no more a "community", a "minority" or an "identity" than people who like both Star Trek and Star Wars.

[2] There isn't thousands of years of "anti-bisexual" persecution and slaughter culminating in the single worst genocide in humanity's history - the holocaust. There also isn't ongoing hate-speech and conspiracy theories against bisexuals by the Far Right, the Militant Left and Radical Muslims.”

But gays and bisexuals are being killed all over the world for being gay or bisexual.
I dont think jews are to the same extent.

Take history out of the equation for a moment then tell me why, in this day and age it is ok to show someone on tv persecuting one but not the other.
karl_kennedy
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by Davidsaid:
“ persecuting”


.....yes ok
Davidsaid
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by karl_kennedy:
“ .....yes ok”

Anything else to add, snide?
sorcha_healy27
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by Davidsaid:
“But gays and bisexuals are being killed all over the world for being gay or bisexual.
I dont think jews are to the same extent.

Take history out of the equation for a moment then tell me why, in this day and age it is ok to show someone on tv persecuting one but not the other.”

Are you seriously saying that there was no mass genocide of Jews?
karl_kennedy
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by Davidsaid:
“Anything else to add, snide?”

Nothing at all, you don't need any more rope...you're making a fine job of it yourself...
dirtyrat
07-08-2016
Because what's aired is a opinion unpopular but a opinion
The other is bad taste and racism that's not been aired to protect biggins and the show from Ofcom .
Davidsaid
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“Are you seriously saying that there was no mass genocide of Jews?”

How you get that from what i posted is a mystery..

What i am saying is at this present time there are more gay and bisexual people being killed for being gay and bisexual than there are jews for being jewish.

So why is it ok to air one thing that would cause offence to one but not air the other?
Davidsaid
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by dirtyrat:
“Because what's aired is a opinion unpopular but a opinion
The other is bad taste and racism that's not been aired to protect biggins and the show from Ofcom .”

Thank you, that makes sense.
Landon3333
07-08-2016
Pretty simple really... it's because the worst type is, I’m afraid to say, the bisexuals. What is it with people not wanting to admit they are gay?

Gays had been really badly treated for so long. Then came a period where they were respected. But suddenly, a killer disease then came along which was attributed to homosexuals - but I think it was a bisexual disease if I'm honest.

What the government didn't realise is that there were bisexuals out there who were having sex with those people.

They then brought it back to their families over here and in America. That's how it became a worldwide disease.

The end.
karl_kennedy
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by dirtyrat:
“Because what's aired is a opinion unpopular but a opinion
The other is bad taste and racism that's not been aired to protect biggins and the show from Ofcom .”

There's a fella who drinks in my local boozer, swears as sure as eggs is eggs that the Twin Towers were brought down not by terrorists but by an internal CIA backed US plot to destablise the Middle East.....drinks on his own......you remind me of him
Stellen11
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by Landon3333:
“Pretty simple really... it's because the worst type is, I’m afraid to say, the bisexuals. What is it with people not wanting to admit they are gay?

Gays had been really badly treated for so long. Then came a period where they were respected. But suddenly, a killer disease then came along which was attributed to homosexuals - but I think it was a bisexual disease if I'm honest.

What the government didn't realise is that there were bisexuals out there who were having sex with those people.

They then brought it back to their families over here and in America. That's how it became a worldwide disease.

The end.”

His views are so ugly and repellant when set out so starkly like that. Glad the daft old bigot was booted out now.
PabloJ
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by Davidsaid:
“But gays and bisexuals are being killed all over the world for being gay or bisexual.”

^They're being killed for being gay... not because they have sex with the opposite gender too.
As of 2016, there are exactly 10 countries which have the Death Penalty simply for being gay. All 10 use Islamic law (sharia) which only has stipulations against homosexual behavior. There are no stipulations about those who 'swing both ways'.
dirtyrat
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by karl_kennedy:
“There's a fella who drinks in my local boozer, swears as sure as eggs is eggs that the Twin Towers were brought down not by terrorists but by an internal CIA backed US plot to destablise the Middle East.....drinks on his own......you remind me of him”

What I said is 100% right though as confirmed by biggins himself

Maybe I am him

He is probably drinking on his own cause he thinks your a c & a spy
Davidsaid
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by PabloJ:
“^They're being killed for being gay... not because they have sex with the opposite gender too.
As of 2016, there are exactly 10 countries which have the Death Penalty simply for being gay. All 10 use Islamic law (sharia) which only has stipulations against homosexual behavior. There are no stipulations about those who 'swing both ways'.”

They are still dead and bisexual though. But you are correct.
sorcha_healy27
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by Davidsaid:
“How you get that from what i posted is a mystery..

What i am saying is at this present time there are more gay and bisexual people being killed for being gay and bisexual than there are jews for being jewish.

So why is it ok to air one thing that would cause offence to one but not air the other?”

I don't know why big brother aired one and not the other. Perhaps it was for Biggins own good that they didn't air that comment

He had been given a chance to not make any more comments/rulebbreak after the Jewish comment so that was the final straw.

Yes I did misread your initial comment so my apologies for that.
shirlt9
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by Davidsaid:
“I am a bit wary posting this, but i find it pretty insulting that bb aired two things that were negative towards bisexuals yet they did not air the thing about jews.

Why do you think this is, and is it right that the two should be differentiated against?

In my opinion both should have been shown because biggins was not ejected on monday for saying whatever it was about jews, so it must not have been offensive enough to merit an ejection..”

On a show like this all opinions should be aired and let the public decide..that's the idea of the show.,what one person finds offensive another will not and vice versa..do we need nannying by channel 5 filtering what we see????? No we don't..I find bear offensive but we've been shown all his antics..
We should see everything ..
karl_kennedy
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by PabloJ:
“^They're being killed for being gay... not because they have sex with the opposite gender too. ”

Indeed, a detail that some seem happy to overlook as long as it fits their agenda....
JVS
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by dirtyrat:
“Because what's aired is a opinion unpopular but a opinion
The other is bad taste and racism that's not been aired to protect biggins and the show from Ofcom .”

True, BB feels that, as Biggins is a friend to the show, he deserves to not have his career ruined. If one of the youngsters had said what he said it would have been aired.
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