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Because some people you are allowed to offend, others not so much.
White people for example you are free to say whatever you want about them unchallenged. Apparently there is some leeway as to what you can say about bisexuals as well. That said it's clearly not a free for all as Biggins was warned about his comments. Blacks and gays, not so much. If you try to criticise people from either of these backgrounds on tv you are obligated to be outnumbered by social justice warriors telling you how bigoted you are. Technically it's allowed but only if presented with heavy handed opposition. And finally there are the Jews who cannot be criticised in any way shape or form in mainstream media. It doesn't matter if there are a thousand zionists and sjw's poised to counter your arguments. What is not allowed is not allowed. Someone needs to tell family guy that. |
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From experinces of what happened in the football world over the last couple of years i would think that some sponsors do not play around when it comes to any negitive talks about Jews or anything to do with anti-semitism. I don't blame Ch5 for protecting their earning potential.
But i have to be careful mentioning that as apparently some people claim that could also be close to the wind of "stereotyping". |
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They didn't conquer the world so they couldn't really come as close as you say. And if they could they would have killed all disabled people, gays and some other groups too.
The truth to me is that ethnicity as defined by both Nazis and Jewish people is surely false anyway, we all came from Africa originally and are simply the same species. All kinds of people have used claims of racial difference to stress superiority, even some of those that call themselves Jewish in the past. It's better when people put aside the fear of difference, however some political/religious power holders see that as undermining their own status.
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Someone needs to tell family guy that.
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BIB ....That is proven total nonsense.....
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I am a bit wary posting this, but i find it pretty insulting that bb aired two things that were negative towards bisexuals yet they did not air the thing about jews.
Why do you think this is, and is it right that the two should be differentiated against? In my opinion both should have been shown because biggins was not ejected on monday for saying whatever it was about jews, so it must not have been offensive enough to merit an ejection.. |
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Anyone making jokes about the holocaust - whilst getting paid an alleged £150,000 for doing so - kinda deserves what they get!
Some people claim comedy can cover any subject but genocide would seem a comedy step too far. And it seems as if Biggins was subconsciously wishing Katie had died in a concentration camp or something like that? You could argue he was implying Big Brother should treat Katie in the same way the Nazis treated the Jews. Why mention showers and rooms if there wasn't some hidden meaning to it? Perhaps a tad disturbing? |
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For Christ's sake what a load of whining. Thank God you lot don't live in the middle east, where people are being thrown off buildings and stoned to death!
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Anyone making jokes about the holocaust - whilst getting paid an alleged £150,000 for doing so - kinda deserves what they get!
Some people claim comedy can cover any subject but genocide would seem a comedy step too far. And it seems as if Biggins was subconsciously wishing Katie had died in a concentration camp or something like that? You could argue he was implying Big Brother should treat Katie in the same way the Nazis treated the Jews. Why mention showers and rooms if there wasn't some hidden meaning to it? Perhaps a tad disturbing? |
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Anyone making jokes about the holocaust - whilst getting paid an alleged £150,000 for doing so - kinda deserves what they get!
Some people claim comedy can cover any subject but genocide would seem a comedy step too far. And it seems as if Biggins was subconsciously wishing Katie had died in a concentration camp or something like that? You could argue he was implying Big Brother should treat Katie in the same way the Nazis treated the Jews. Why mention showers and rooms if there wasn't some hidden meaning to it? Perhaps a tad disturbing? And yes, you COULD argue he was implying it literally but it makes far more sense that like the Jewish writers of Family Guy sometimes like to do, he was making a holocaust joke. |
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The guy admitted it was wrong: http://jewishnews.timesofisrael.com/...-chamber-slur/ Quote:
Biggins told Jewish News: “I am mortified by what I said. It was a stupid thing to do and I truly regret it. I apologised to Katie straight away and we cleared the air, but I’d also like to apologise to the wider Jewish community.” I believe people have the right to be prejudiced but you can't say outrageous stuff like that on a reality tv show and expect to get away with it. Still, I'm sure he'll get work in panto this Christmas so I'm sure the scandal will blow over. Admitting that the remark was about the Nazis and gas chambers, he said: “I suppose I was, yes. But it didn’t occur to me that’s what I was referring to.”
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And yes, you COULD argue he was implying it literally but it makes far more sense that like the Jewish writers of Family Guy sometimes like to do, he was making a holocaust joke.
I would find jokes about the holocaust to be offensive be they told by Jews or non-Jews. I've never watched Family Guy, well, might have seen one episode but now that I know they make holocaust jokes, I'm glad to say I'll never watch another episode. I don't think genocide is a topic for comedy. Allo Allo - the BBC 1 comedy show set during WW2 - never mentioned the holocaust. They made jokes about Germany's occupation of France but they never mentioned genocide. How can anyone find genocide funny? Rhetorical question! |
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I would find jokes about the holocaust to be offensive be they told by Jews or non-Jews. I've never watched Family Guy, well, might have seen one episode
but now that I know they make holocaust jokes, I'm glad to say I'll never watch another episode. I don't think genocide is a topic for comedy. Allo Allo - the BBC 1 comedy show set during WW2 - never mentioned the holocaust. They made jokes about Germany's occupation of France but they never mentioned genocide. How can anyone find genocide funny? Rhetorical question! Biggins' joke wasn't funny but that doesn't mean it was anything but a joke. |
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No source then.
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Are you related to Bear ? The truth is out there ....Go find it ......Google is your friend !
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Haven't posted on DS in over a year. But read this and laughed before realising how little we have come.. We are arguing about who should be more offended?
As a bisexual happily married Jew I am kinda saddened by that. I get discrimation by gays and straights in the past for being bi. Oh I am in the closet or confused, promiscuous etc. Disrespecting that and I am married and not sleeping around. However in this country the only times I have been scared of violence or threatened was after my conversion to Judaism. Or my husband who has a knife to his throat because of it. Both are wrong but belittling one group for whatever reasons is something we all need to move on from. This sort of thread just reminds me how far we really haven't. |
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Clearly not seeing as you seem unable to substantiate your argument.
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Oh dear .....I've got a stalker .
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I am a bit wary posting this, but i find it pretty insulting that bb aired two things that were negative towards bisexuals yet they did not air the thing about jews.
Why do you think this is, and is it right that the two should be differentiated against? In my opinion both should have been shown because biggins was not ejected on monday for saying whatever it was about jews, so it must not have been offensive enough to merit an ejection.. With regard to his joke about Jews, maybe Katie didn't want it aired and asked that it not be. If they went against her wishes, it could be seen as very insensitive and anti Semitic. |
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I think you should Google the definition of stalker.
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I do absolutely agree with you. There does seem to be this awful attitude, as summed up by Biggins and Renee, that bi-sexuality is a lifestyle choice taken either because people want to have their cake and eat it or because they are scared to 'properly' come out and they are letting the Gay community down by behaving this way.
It is ignorant and bigoted and I know from 2 friends of mine who are bi-sexual how hurtful and isolating they find it. The amount of times I've heard "Oh, You're Just Greedy" "You're Just Experimenting" "You Just Want The Best Of Both Worlds" etc is ridiculous... If I'd been in the house, I'd be asking why Biggins & Renee's attitude is that bisexuality is somehow less legitimate & "Worse" than being gay or straight...
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but now that I know they make holocaust jokes, I'm glad to say I'll never watch another episode.