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Old 07-08-2016, 19:56
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The thing I cannot understand is that Biggins was married to a woman in the early 70s, so you would think he would have a better understanding of bisexuality.
Perhaps that's why he said what he said?
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Old 07-08-2016, 20:03
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Perhaps that's why he said what he said?
I'm sure it was, yes. "I was gay but pretended to be attracted to women too... Therefore that's what everyone else must also be doing."

It's Biggins world. We're just living in it.
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Old 07-08-2016, 20:07
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The thing I cannot understand is that Biggins was married to a woman in the early 70s, so you would think he would have a better understanding of bisexuality.
Won't be the first Celeb to marry someone just to stop the gay gossip.
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Old 07-08-2016, 20:08
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I still don't understand this though. His comments about bisexuals transmitting the disease are accurate. The WHO have admitted this in the past and that is how a lot of females contracted the disease. It was a disease that was ultimately spread by homosexuals, bisexuals and heterosexuals.

His comments about the showers were well below the belt and definitely deserved a warning but the bisexual thing was just general banter.
I have said that all along , it was a disease spread by sex ultimately and homosexuals have sex.....bisexuals have sex and heterosexuals have sex. Yes needles and blood transfusions however the main way it spread at the time he was talking about was sex. It was reported to have started in Africa (by monkeys and having sex with monkeys then having sex with humans) originally and the way it was spread sexually to the heterosexual community (it had not been reported as anything but a gay disease to start and the persecution began) was via "gay" men having sex with women ....I.e. Bisexuals.....

As a 16 year old at school in 1985 I had all sorts of sexual education (some now disputed) and as we didn't use condoms really before that we were freaked out and terrified so educated ourselves...... I am not a Biggins fan but what he was saying was contextual for the time and what was reported. I have stated. Many times on here that I am bi and have heard his view and far far worse in the LGBT community re bisexuals are really gay just won't admit it. I just think it's the middle class liberals being offended for the sake of it.....would prefer them to be outraged on behalf of mentally ill people and the offensive use of terms on here tbh
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Old 07-08-2016, 20:15
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So James, Renee and Frankie were there and didn't say anything against Biggin's views? Renee agreed with him. James just questioned the "man made" bit and Frankie just added "GRID" to the conversation?
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Old 07-08-2016, 20:19
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You are joking right?
No I am not joking. If you read what he has said in todays papers and some of what was in that particular transcript then that is why I said it.
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Old 07-08-2016, 20:20
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What was the confirmation?
Biggins himself in todays papers
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Old 07-08-2016, 20:22
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No I am not joking. If you read what he has said in todays papers and some of what was in that particular transcript then that is why I said it.
The offending joke printed in The Sun does not correspond to anything in the fake transcript.

The transcript was clearly satirical.
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Old 07-08-2016, 20:23
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Biggins himself in todays papers
Show me the paper where he specifically confirms the officially denied DS transcript was real.
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Old 07-08-2016, 20:26
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no meaningful debate or discussion....just some ignorant bigots reaffirming their opinions (what they think are facts)

edit: I'm talking about Biggins, Renee, Frankie and maybe James (I think he got called away during the discussion of "man-made" AIDS)
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Old 07-08-2016, 20:33
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Show me the paper where he specifically confirms the officially denied DS transcript was real.
I said SOME of what was in the "fake" transcript was true. Not all of it. I am aware it was satirical but many a time the truth is spoken in jest and I think this happened in this case.

In a statement, Channel 5 said it "does not tolerate offensive language", but declined to disclose precisely what the entertainer, had said.


Why would they not disclose exactly why he was tossed out? Ch 5 have lied and are hiding info as many of us realise.

Biggins, who had made earlier controversial comments about Aids and bisexuals, told the 30-year-old, who is Jewish: "You better be careful or they'll be putting you in a shower and taking you to a room."
Ch 5 said this:
“We can confirm that a transcript claiming to relate to Christopher Biggins’ removal from the CBB house is 100% fake.
It turns out that is a big fib because the Jewish "joke" was in the fake transcript.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...fter-kicked-o/
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Old 07-08-2016, 20:33
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Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't trust C5 or the Sun as far as I could throw them.

I'm just saying while they have very little credibility, the guy who posted the transcript has literally ZERO credibility and nothing really to lose from posting rubbish.

And that's not taking into account the transcript was clearly written in a satirical manner.

The transcript really is a million miles away from what has been reported in The Sun. A one off joke is not the same as the prolonged, calculated racial rampage he was purported to have gone on.
But the thing is, it wasn't at all a 'prolonged, calculated racial rampage'. It was just a discussion, no different in casual tone and content than the discussion he had with Renee about the 'rampaging' of the bisexuals.

Put aside the fakeness issue for a moment. Can you genuinely not see Biggins, bearing in mind his take on the 'evil bisexuals', offering the same levels of insightfulness on contemporary issues such as gun crime and 'black lives matter'?
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Old 07-08-2016, 20:33
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I have said that all along , it was a disease spread by sex ultimately and homosexuals have sex.....bisexuals have sex and heterosexuals have sex. Yes needles and blood transfusions however the main way it spread at the time he was talking about was sex. It was reported to have started in Africa (by monkeys and having sex with monkeys then having sex with humans) originally and the way it was spread sexually to the heterosexual community (it had not been reported as anything but a gay disease to start and the persecution began) was via "gay" men having sex with women ....I.e. Bisexuals.....

As a 16 year old at school in 1985 I had all sorts of sexual education (some now disputed) and as we didn't use condoms really before that we were freaked out and terrified so educated ourselves...... I am not a Biggins fan but what he was saying was contextual for the time and what was reported. I have stated. Many times on here that I am bi and have heard his view and far far worse in the LGBT community re bisexuals are really gay just won't admit it. I just think it's the middle class liberals being offended for the sake of it.....would prefer them to be outraged on behalf of mentally ill people and the offensive use of terms on here tbh
What a sensible post. I too have sat in a pub with gay people where a couple have insisted bisexual men are gay people in hiding. No amount of "Well if you are one way, and I'm another, what's to say there aren't more varieties?" would shift them.

And I think too many people are choosing to believe or not believe Biggins's supposed crimes based on how they felt about him as a HM rather than looking at it in context of what you state.

And those who think that clearly fake "transcript" was "probably real" really are scraping the barrel.
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Old 07-08-2016, 20:45
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The offending joke printed in The Sun does not correspond to anything in the fake transcript.

The transcript was clearly satirical.
What was it satirising do you think chameleon? You said that right from the very start. In fact you the first one to call BS on it I think - and labelled it as a piece of satire then. Your fairly confident it wasn't just a troll after a reaction then?
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Old 07-08-2016, 20:47
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Interesting conclusion.

Mine's 100% genuine though. Though the thoughts expressed within may not be.
sure, but how do you know its complete? we only know about incidents they tell us about.
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Old 07-08-2016, 20:48
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Didn't we see that last night.
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Old 07-08-2016, 20:49
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It turns out that is a big fib because the Jewish "joke" was in the fake transcript.
It really wasn't scotkaz, there was a 'joke' about a concentration camp in there, but it wasn't the same one. And, the transcript appeared AFTER it had been leaked that Biggins had made a concentration camp joke.
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Old 07-08-2016, 20:54
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sure, but how do you know its complete? we only know about incidents they tell us about.
I'm not sure what you've taken the inention of the transcript to be. I was just providing a readable version of what was shown is all.
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Old 07-08-2016, 21:27
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What was it satirising do you think chameleon? You said that right from the very start. In fact you the first one to call BS on it I think - and labelled it as a piece of satire then. Your fairly confident it wasn't just a troll after a reaction then?
We'll probably never know the motivation of the poster, maybe they didn't expect so many people to take it seriously and it was supposed to just be an outrageous piece of trolling?

Or maybe they genuinely intended for people to fall for it, I suppose with the level of detail the intention could have been to fool everybody.

If there was any kind of underlying satirical point I suppose it was to see how outrageous they could make the offending statements without being caught out.

Going by his previous posts his schtick seems to be confidently asserting things that never actually happen. Whether that's satire or trolling or just bad guessing, it all seems to be part of the same schtick. Just a lot more elaborate this time.
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Old 08-08-2016, 00:16
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Biggins comment about showers was definitely anti-semitic. Mentioning showers in relation to the holocaust is a total no-no in terms of 'comedy' or light conversation. And just cos people have Jewish friends - as Biggins says - doesn't mean he isn't anti-semitic. People have the right to be anti-semitic, prejudice is a right and to suggest otherwise would be hypocritical, but often it's just an ugly right when shown on a light entertainment show.

Jade Goody showed hatred of Indians - remember when she attacked Shilpa Shetty with constant racist remarks - when she was on CBB so extreme prejudice is par for the course on the show! I'm not watching CBB but I saw the fuss over Biggins' comments so I thought I'd add my opinion.
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Old 08-08-2016, 00:33
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Randy Shilts book, The Band Played On, includes this about the origin of AIDS:

'AIDS in the United States first struck gay men and IV drug users in Los Angeles, New York City, and San Francisco due to unsafe sexual and drug-taking practices. Shilts' sources in the gay community tried to remember the last time everyone they knew was healthy, which was the U.S. Bicentennial celebration in 1976, when sailors came from all over the world to New York.[5] Some of them carried sexually transmitted diseases and rare tropical fevers.'
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Old 08-08-2016, 00:41
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Randy Shilts book, The Band Played On, includes this about the origin of AIDS:

'AIDS in the United States first struck gay men and IV drug users in Los Angeles, New York City, and San Francisco due to unsafe sexual and drug-taking practices. Shilts' sources in the gay community tried to remember the last time everyone they knew was healthy, which was the U.S. Bicentennial celebration in 1976, when sailors came from all over the world to New York.[5] Some of them carried sexually transmitted diseases and rare tropical fevers.'
That would make sense, we know it didn't originate in America. I'm not sure what this adds to the Biggins discussion though, unless the sailors in question were stated to be bisexual.
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Old 08-08-2016, 00:51
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It kind of contradicts his statement. The idea of people shagging green monkeys is also a myth - what they did is eat infected monkey meat.
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Old 08-08-2016, 00:54
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It kind of contradicts his statement. The idea of people shagging green monkeys is also a myth - what they did is eat infected monkey meat.
Bloody hell! These bisexuals, is there no end to their depravity?
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