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Old 07-08-2016, 20:55
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With it being confirmed that sharongate part 2 is happening courtesy of DTC, it got me thinking is it time for Ee to be axed?

DTC was meant to be a saviour and yet he could only come up with one original story that he had to kill a legacy character for and ruin a legacy family. the story he put out wasn't worth it at all.

then add all the ret-cons and replays of eastenders greatest hits, it is a bit worrying for the future.

obvs the government kind of wanted the bbc to axe Eastenders within the charter renewal

so should it be axed before it dies a death ?
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Old 07-08-2016, 20:57
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Just because DTC was an atrocious producer, more concerned with his own ego and his crappy little fan fiction version of Eastenders, doesn't mean it should be axed.
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Old 07-08-2016, 20:59
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I don't think it should be axed as it is still a very popular show amongst the viewers (the fact that majority of threads on this forum are EE based and probably most popular one on social media at least shows people are talking about it). DTC's reign was gripping TV from his inception until the 30th (with late 2015/early 2016) also a high point. Its not as bad as it was under BK and the show survived then so I see no reason to axe it personally
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Old 07-08-2016, 20:59
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No I never want to see it axed, I'll probably always watch it even when it's shit but it does need a kick up the backside!
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Old 07-08-2016, 21:00
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No not at all, there will always be core fans who watch and like it however bad it , others can just stop watching. I dont think the BBC would ever axe it unless it went under 2 million.
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Old 07-08-2016, 21:00
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There's an element of 'damage limitation' for all of the soaps these days.

I made a similar thread asking a similar question about Coronation Street a couple of months back.

I use Brookside as a good example. It was a declining show but actually didn't reach the depths that both EE and CS have reached in recent years, with particular regard to continuity, consistency and retcons. However, now that Brookside is 'dead', we can look back on it with sincere affection knowing that it didn't get any worse than it had done already.

I love soaps and wouldn't want to see any of them axed for no reason, but sometimes, like an ailing pet, the vet's needle is the kindest thing to do...
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Old 07-08-2016, 21:01
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EastEnders will out live us all, it's the Queen of soaps.
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Old 07-08-2016, 21:06
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What would we replace it with?

EE has it problems, like any soap it but I don't think it's that far gone, Corrie's survived 56 years of this endless cycle.

DTC time is over now and the new producer is in place, nothing stopping the show thriving again, the soaps are a dying art but they need and have to adapt to changing times but there will always be a place for it.
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Old 07-08-2016, 21:20
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There's an element of 'damage limitation' for all of the soaps these days.

I made a similar thread asking a similar question about Coronation Street a couple of months back.

I use Brookside as a good example. It was a declining show but actually didn't reach the depths that both EE and CS have reached in recent years, with particular regard to continuity, consistency and retcons. However, now that Brookside is 'dead', we can look back on it with sincere affection knowing that it didn't get any worse than it had done already.

I love soaps and wouldn't want to see any of them axed for no reason, but sometimes, like an ailing pet, the vet's needle is the kindest thing to do...
I think the future of soaps in the very long-term is interesting and a relevant question independent and separate from how the quality of the show is holding up.

Soap's are a big fish in an increasingly fragmented and shrinking pond -IE the modern television industry.
Axed in the short term? No unlikely but the decline of soaps long term ratings wise etc is a harbinger for the long term decline of the TV industry.
Their a declining genre, not yet dead and I think even when they are creatively totally dead the TV executive's will try and milk it for every last drop! 😁
Some say soap's already are creatively dead and hence rehash version's of stories. It's hotly contended!
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Old 07-08-2016, 21:26
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With it being confirmed that sharongate part 2 is happening courtesy of DTC, it got me thinking is it time for Ee to be axed?
Sorry I must have missed that official confirmation, all I have seen is speculative articles. Can you please point me in the right direction as I would love to read the official press release. Anyway, two old flames possibly reuniting in a soap is hardly a reason to axe it. How ridiculous
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Old 07-08-2016, 21:29
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Maybe, to be honest the forum is often more fun and better plotted than the show!
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Old 07-08-2016, 21:30
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Maybe, to be honest the forum is often more fun and better plotted than the show!
Better more three dimensional colourful characters on here maybe?
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Old 07-08-2016, 21:32
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Better more three dimensional colourful characters on here maybe?
Yes, less secret siblings and children too!
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Old 07-08-2016, 21:41
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Yes, less secret siblings and children too!
We are a much more respectable bunch on here! 😉😘
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Old 07-08-2016, 21:52
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I think there is more chance of EE being axed than CS or ED simply because of it being a BBC production.

With the govt putting a lot of pressure on the BBC to cut its budget back, I just don't see how EE can be immune from the cuts and therefore the show is likely to deteriorate further because of this.

They need to cut a further £550m from the budget by 2021, a huge figure and so far they haven't said where the cuts are going to come from, only a few million here and there from red button services and some online stuff and cuts to radio and news services.

That will account for about half of the figure, I'm sure some of the BBC's big shows are going to be cut by then, maybe SOC is the channels last chance to get the ratings back, otherwise I'd say its a very realistic chance of being cut. Ross Kemp even admitted he felt the effects of the cuts when he returned to filming and its noticeable how the show is produced now in blocks is because of cost cutting as opposed to a directors decision.

That affects what is put on screen and with ITV spending a lot on increasing the standard and episodes of its two soaps, its hard to see how EE can compete in the future with further cuts still likely to come
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Old 07-08-2016, 22:00
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I think there is more chance of EE being axed than CS or ED simply because of it being a BBC production.

With the govt putting a lot of pressure on the BBC to cut its budget back, I just don't see how EE can be immune from the cuts and therefore the show is likely to deteriorate further because of this.

They need to cut a further £550m from the budget by 2021, a huge figure and so far they haven't said where the cuts are going to come from, only a few million here and there from red button services and some online stuff and cuts to radio and news services.

That will account for about half of the figure, I'm sure some of the BBC's big shows are going to be cut by then, maybe SOC is the channels last chance to get the ratings back, otherwise I'd say its a very realistic chance of being cut. Ross Kemp even admitted he felt the effects of the cuts when he returned to filming and its noticeable how the show is produced now in blocks is because of cost cutting as opposed to a directors decision.

That affects what is put on screen and with ITV spending a lot on increasing the standard and episodes of its two soaps, its hard to see how EE can compete in the future with further cuts still likely to come
EE will be just fine and will definitely not be axed due to BBC cuts. The above is just a cut and paste hodgepodge of misinformation and red top media scaremongering imo
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Old 07-08-2016, 22:01
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No its not going to be axed
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Old 07-08-2016, 22:26
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No way. Personally I liked alot of Dom's work but his issue was over egging the pudding.

It survived Kirkwood who was the worst ever so it can go on again now.
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Old 07-08-2016, 22:28
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What would we replace it with?

EE has it problems, like any soap it but I don't think it's that far gone, Corrie's survived 56 years of this endless cycle.

DTC time is over now and the new producer is in place, nothing stopping the show thriving again, the soaps are a dying art but they need and have to adapt to changing times but there will always be a place for it.
good question, what could you put on instead ?
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Old 07-08-2016, 22:29
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EE will be just fine and will definitely not be axed due to BBC cuts. The above is just a cut and paste hodgepodge of misinformation and red top media scaremongering imo
No it's an actual real thing and was a possibility during the negotiations, they think Ee should be produced by the bbc and then sold to another channel or a third party production company makes it and the bbc buys it in.

it will be discussed again at the next charter renewal no doubt
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Old 07-08-2016, 22:30
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Absolutely not, what the hell would I do all day????????????
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Old 07-08-2016, 22:31
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Absolutely not, what the hell would I do all day????????????
Win the Euromillions and spend time getting to know toyboys and friendly hunks? 😉 😘
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Old 07-08-2016, 22:32
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Win the Euromillions and spend time getting to know toyboys and friendly hunks? 😉 😘
Or with you?


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Old 07-08-2016, 22:37
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I'm no toyboy but I'm not really old enough to be a sugar Daddy I don't think either!

Goes back to my thread last week -Would soap's become a former pastime if sudden wealth opened up the possibilities of so many other hinterlands?!

If I won millions and had a swimming pool I'd be tempted to pay hunks to swim naked for me whilst I watch from my cosy lounger
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Old 07-08-2016, 22:40
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EE need to come up with at least one fabulous new family. It seems they have lost the knack for this in the last few years, bringing in mediocre families and characters that just don't click with the viewers. They were half way there with the Carters...Mick, Linda and Stan were all great, but their children were/are all dull and add nothing to the show. I watch from habit these days and enjoy barely half the episodes, and that's being generous.
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