Originally Posted by Venetian:
“What a vile post, or are you doing a Biggins and "only joking"?”
“What a vile post, or are you doing a Biggins and "only joking"?”
I was being sarcastic. If you thought I was being sincere you read too much in to it.
Biggins to visit concentration camps
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Originally Posted by honeythewitch:
“He didnt say anything about black people. The transcript was a fake.”
“He didnt say anything about black people. The transcript was a fake.”
so why did he bring it up about black people In his interview?
Krakow is a beautiful city and the people are nice. Auschwitz is very eerie and unsettling. Our tour guide told us that no matter where we stood it was likely that someone had died in that spot. 
I don't know exactly what Biggins said, but I think he will learn something from this. It's almost impossible not to.
I don't know exactly what Biggins said, but I think he will learn something from this. It's almost impossible not to.
Originally Posted by Xuri:
“I was being sarcastic. If you thought I was being sincere you read too much in to it.”
“I was being sarcastic. If you thought I was being sincere you read too much in to it.”
There is nothing funny about cancer, and if I've read too much into what you say then so be it. I just happen to think there are boundaries.
Originally Posted by Venetian:
“There is nothing funny about cancer, and if I've read too much into what you say then so be it. I just happen to think there are boundaries.”
“There is nothing funny about cancer, and if I've read too much into what you say then so be it. I just happen to think there are boundaries.”
I wasn't being funny I was being sarcastic. Also, not sure why I should adhere to your personal boundaries. But anyway, I don't really want to argue about it. I can see why you thought it was offensive and I therefore apologise.
Originally Posted by Xuri:
“I wasn't being funny I was being sarcastic. Also, not sure why I should adhere to your personal boundaries. But anyway, I don't really want to argue about it. I can see why you thought it was offensive and I therefore apologise.”
“I wasn't being funny I was being sarcastic. Also, not sure why I should adhere to your personal boundaries. But anyway, I don't really want to argue about it. I can see why you thought it was offensive and I therefore apologise.”
Thank you.
Originally Posted by wotnot:
“I did too, how ridiculous, you shouldn't have to visit a concentration camp to have empathy for the victims of Hitler's regime but equally so I feel some perspective needs gaining here.”
“I did too, how ridiculous, you shouldn't have to visit a concentration camp to have empathy for the victims of Hitler's regime but equally so I feel some perspective needs gaining here.”
Yes fair point but given he seems to have no basic understanding I was simply pointing out that actually standing on the site of such atrocities may have given him a boot up the bum
Of course people shouldn't have to visit a camp to understand the horror -you're completely right.
Originally Posted by nomad2king:
“I still waiting for the full and proper recognition of the FIVE MILLION non-Jews that were systematically killed. The original plans were to expel the Jews out of Germany, but kill most of the Slavs, keeping some for slave labour. It really does OFFEND me, when people go on about 6 million deaths, and not 11 million.”
“I still waiting for the full and proper recognition of the FIVE MILLION non-Jews that were systematically killed. The original plans were to expel the Jews out of Germany, but kill most of the Slavs, keeping some for slave labour. It really does OFFEND me, when people go on about 6 million deaths, and not 11 million.”
Originally Posted by kali:
“I agree. Millions of Christians were killed by the Nazis too and they don't ever get a mention. Millions of Christians have been murdered by ISIS ,Boko Haram etc in the last few years and right now under our noses and there's very little about them.
I think this whole thing is ridiculous”
“I agree. Millions of Christians were killed by the Nazis too and they don't ever get a mention. Millions of Christians have been murdered by ISIS ,Boko Haram etc in the last few years and right now under our noses and there's very little about them.
I think this whole thing is ridiculous”
I totally agree with this. All the other groups seem to be forgotten. I remember being shocked when we were taught about the Holocaust at school and being told it wasn't just Jewish people who were sent to concentration camps. While it was a long time ago since I started secondary school, not that much has changed. Any death and internment was bad every death is a tragedy regardless of which 'group' they belonged to.
Originally Posted by Kasper69:
“so why did he bring it up about black people In his interview?”
“so why did he bring it up about black people In his interview?”
Lord knows. Perhaps he believes having black friends somehow counters the accusations of bigotry?
Originally Posted by Kasper69:
“so why did he bring it up about black people In his interview?”
“so why did he bring it up about black people In his interview?”
Perhaps somebody else brought it up in a question to him? Black people are on the "standard" list that is used. They are in one of the 9 protected characteristics, And before anyone bleats about that, that it the official and LEGAL terminology.
Quote:
“1. Types of discrimination ('protected characteristics')
It is against the law to discriminate against anyone because of:”
“1. Types of discrimination ('protected characteristics')
It is against the law to discriminate against anyone because of:”
Originally Posted by Xuri:
“I wasn't being funny I was being sarcastic. Also, not sure why I should adhere to your personal boundaries. But anyway, I don't really want to argue about it. I can see why you thought it was offensive and I therefore apologise.”
“I wasn't being funny I was being sarcastic. Also, not sure why I should adhere to your personal boundaries. But anyway, I don't really want to argue about it. I can see why you thought it was offensive and I therefore apologise.”
You just lost my respect. Why apologise to some faceless set of words on a forum?
You did and said nothing wrong. Someone getting offended on someone else's behalf again...that's their problem not yours. Still, your apology might keep out the cold for them this winter...that's the only use it could possibly have.
Originally Posted by Verence:
“Does he seriously expect anyone to believe this visit had been planned before he was chucked out of CBB?”
“Does he seriously expect anyone to believe this visit had been planned before he was chucked out of CBB?”
What's the betting this "planned" trip will be a TV show for him
Thoughts on what it could be called? bit to early in the day for me to offer a show title but I'll be back when I think of one
Originally Posted by MadBetty:
“Someone getting offended on someone else's behalf again...that's their problem not yours.”
“Someone getting offended on someone else's behalf again...that's their problem not yours.”
Originally Posted by MadBetty:
“You just lost my respect.”
“You just lost my respect.”
That's your problem, not mine.
Originally Posted by mellick:
“Agent: C5 were really sorry about the whole BB thing
Biggins: I know, it was truly awful
Agent: But to make up they are offering you a choice of 2 new shows
Really, what are they
Agent: Biggins in Auschwitz or Biggins on Benefits”
“Agent: C5 were really sorry about the whole BB thing
Biggins: I know, it was truly awful
Agent: But to make up they are offering you a choice of 2 new shows
Really, what are they
Agent: Biggins in Auschwitz or Biggins on Benefits”
Originally Posted by Hobbes1966:
“I totally agree with this. All the other groups seem to be forgotten. I remember being shocked when we were taught about the Holocaust at school and being told it wasn't just Jewish people who were sent to concentration camps. While it was a long time ago since I started secondary school, not that much has changed. Any death and internment was bad every death is a tragedy regardless of which 'group' they belonged to.”
“I totally agree with this. All the other groups seem to be forgotten. I remember being shocked when we were taught about the Holocaust at school and being told it wasn't just Jewish people who were sent to concentration camps. While it was a long time ago since I started secondary school, not that much has changed. Any death and internment was bad every death is a tragedy regardless of which 'group' they belonged to.”
Bib. I don't believe that's true at all. Let's not forget that the aim of the Nazis was to wipe out the entire Jewish population so the fact is it was specifically the Jews that were targeted and the gypsies too.
We were taught about mass murder of the handicapped aswell as anyone else like gay people too. However the fact remains that the ultimate aim was the total annihilation of the Jewish people.
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“Bib. I don't believe that's true at all. Let's not forget that the aim of the Nazis was to wipe out the entire Jewish population so the fact is it was specifically the Jews that were targeted and the gypsies too.
We were taught about mass murder of the handicapped aswell as anyone else like gay people too. However the fact remains that the ultimate aim was the total annihilation of the Jewish people.”
“Bib. I don't believe that's true at all. Let's not forget that the aim of the Nazis was to wipe out the entire Jewish population so the fact is it was specifically the Jews that were targeted and the gypsies too.
We were taught about mass murder of the handicapped aswell as anyone else like gay people too. However the fact remains that the ultimate aim was the total annihilation of the Jewish people.”
No it wasn't.
They simply didn't want them in Germany.
Originally Posted by nomad2king:
“No it wasn't. They simply didn't want them in Germany.”
“No it wasn't.
They simply didn't want them in Germany.”
Or Poland or Austria or France or Czechoslavakia or the Channel Islands - one could go on.
What a truly pathetic man, now resorting to a distasteful publicity stunt. I've never fallen for the jolly, loveable persona and my instincts were right, he has certainly shown his true colours.
Originally Posted by BabelBrook:
“Or Poland or Austria or France or Czechoslavakia or the Channel Islands - one could go on.”
“Or Poland or Austria or France or Czechoslavakia or the Channel Islands - one could go on.”
As long as they weren't on German controlled territory. The point is, that there was NO initial intention to kill them all, but there was with the forgotten 5 million Slavs.
Originally Posted by PercyBysshe:
“Hope he can control his annoying laugh when he's there.”
“Hope he can control his annoying laugh when he's there.”
F**k yeah.
"Here we have one of the gas chambers...."
"HAHAHAHAHAHAHA".
Originally Posted by Drew_Hatch:
“"I'm really looking forward to it"
Just ..... eeeh”
“"I'm really looking forward to it"
Just ..... eeeh”
How can you look forward to something like that. I can't get my head around it.
There can't be anything nice about the place or history to look forward too.
Originally Posted by Drew_Hatch:
“"I'm really looking forward to it"
Just ..... eeeh”
“"I'm really looking forward to it"
Just ..... eeeh”
He just doesn't know when to shut up does he?
If we are now expected to know what the offending remark was, ie regarding showers, then why can't we shown the whole thing. I can't help but get the feeling that something else was said before, perhaps by Biggins himself, that prompted the associated remark. If somebody says the word "apple", they that would bring up all sorts of connected thoughts and ideas etc, There are all sorts of possibilities.
Yet again BB has made an announcement, and tried to withhold info, which has led to all sorts of speculation. It is only right and proper that BB makes full disclosure, so that the HM involved doesn't suffer from the false speculation that otherwise ensues,
Yet again BB has made an announcement, and tried to withhold info, which has led to all sorts of speculation. It is only right and proper that BB makes full disclosure, so that the HM involved doesn't suffer from the false speculation that otherwise ensues,
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