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The real 'squad' in there are the Americans
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hisdogspot
09-08-2016
They are working as a unit with the intention of picking off their rivals one by one

They are also a pretty nasty bunch who use far more aggressive language than the reality TV folk who are getting so much stick here
willywonker
09-08-2016
100% correct, so glad someone else can see it.

Originally Posted by hisdogspot:
“They are working as a unit with the intention of picking off their rivals one by one

They are also a pretty nasty bunch who use far more aggressive language than the reality TV folk who are getting so much stick here”

al_capo
09-08-2016
Originally Posted by hisdogspot:
“They are working as a unit with the intention of picking off their rivals one by one

They are also a pretty nasty bunch who use far more aggressive language than the reality TV folk who are getting so much stick here”

Agreed, spitting in a sandwich must also be normal behaviour as none of them seem to remember it. However when bear winds them up or bursts a balloon its "scummy behaviour"
Wainy84
09-08-2016
The Americans always seem to stick together.
muggins14
09-08-2016
They do, although I know I'd be hanging out with whatever group wasn't the young gobby one

They hang out with Saira, Sam, Ricky et al too, not just always on their own. They just seem to do their best to avoid Bear and his posse, which seems a sensible thing to do in my book.
al_capo
09-08-2016
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“They do, although I know I'd be hanging out with whatever group wasn't the young gobby one

They hang out with Saira, Sam, Ricky et al too, not just always on their own. They just seem to do their best to avoid Bear and his posse, which seems a sensible thing to do in my book.”

All Ive seen them do is play dares and drink, its hardly terrible behaviour. They are in BB, I would rather be up all night with them than going to bed early. However thats just me, Im young myself and I can relate to them.
jeanoj
09-08-2016
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“They do, although I know I'd be hanging out with whatever group wasn't the young gobby one

They hang out with Saira, Sam, Ricky et al too, not just always on their own. They just seem to do their best to avoid Bear and his posse, which seems a sensible thing to do in my book.”

Exactly what I would do too.
An Thropologist
09-08-2016
Originally Posted by al_capo:
“All Ive seen them do is play dares and drink, its hardly terrible behaviour. They are in BB, I would rather be up all night with them than going to bed early. However thats just me, Im young myself and I can relate to them.”

You would be something of a gooseberry wouldn't you? Hanging out all night with a pair of smooching couples?
Harry Redknapp
09-08-2016
These dares are often at other people's expense and there is no off button.
al_capo
09-08-2016
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“You would be something of a gooseberry wouldn't you? Hanging out all night with a pair of smooching couples?”

I would let Marnie know what a tit Lewis is, then Id swoop in. I mean Im nothing special but she doesnt seem the fussy type
Plus Im a geordie so chances is Ive met her before
Bear can keep Chloe though
al_capo
09-08-2016
Originally Posted by Harry Redknapp:
“These dares are often at other people's expense and there is no off button.”

They got warned about that and it has stopped from what we have seen. I think the dares are now between the 4 of them.
muggins14
09-08-2016
Originally Posted by al_capo:
“All Ive seen them do is play dares and drink, its hardly terrible behaviour. They are in BB, I would rather be up all night with them than going to bed early. However thats just me, Im young myself and I can relate to them.”

I didn't say anything about terrible behaviour, those are your words.

The older ones seem to be up at the same time as the younger ones - just in a different room.

Live feed the other night was all of the Americans, Saira, Ricky, Heavy and various others socialising around the dinner table. They seemed to be enjoying themselves.
JVS
09-08-2016
Americans never fully understand BBUK because it's not really a game show like BBUSA, it's more of a popularity contest.

I like that they challenge Bear &Co - unlike some of the others who go out of their way to avoid them.
hisdogspot
09-08-2016
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“They do, although I know I'd be hanging out with whatever group wasn't the young gobby one

They hang out with Saira, Sam, Ricky et al too, not just always on their own. They just seem to do their best to avoid Bear and his posse, which seems a sensible thing to do in my book.”

I don't think the squad ( the Americans ) are 'avoiding' Bear and his 'posse' at all

Far from it

The mob wife, in particular, is relentless in her verbal attacks on Bear and anyone who dares to be his friend in there ... the way she is constantly berating Chloe for how "bad" she looks, is especially unpleasant

Then there's Aubrey of course, who has taken the attack to a disgusting level

Frankie has been verbally aggressive too, but largely restrains himself to whispering and scheming with the two women

All in all, the Americans' behaviour has been more reprehensible than the behaviour of the reality TV people

Yet they seem to be getting away with it unchallenged
Donna65
09-08-2016
I prefer the Americans over Bear, Marnie, Lewis and Chloe any and every day of the week. I'm really liking the way Renee speaks up to Bear too - she's got him sussed.
danielleh
09-08-2016
Originally Posted by al_capo:
“All Ive seen them do is play dares and drink, its hardly terrible behaviour. They are in BB, I would rather be up all night with them than going to bed early. However thats just me, Im young myself and I can relate to them.”

I'd call targeting (the word Lewis used) Saira and James is terrible behaviour. Shoving your unwanted tits in someone's face is terrible behaviour. The constant badgering of James in the kitchen was terrible behaviour. Stashing drinks and starting fights about it is somewhat terrible. Throwing a mug and smashing a mirror is terrible behaviour.

Yes they are in BB, that doesn't excuse their behaviour nor unaccountable for said behaviour. There's a reason why Bear's been warned several times and why Lewis was given a telling off about the squad's actions.
Etty_Dee
09-08-2016
If they're getting away with anything, it's with collusion of the producers. We are being shown nothing if Bear isn't part of it.
Maybe if they broadcast stuff happening in the rest of the house, we'd get some insight into the other HMs.
shelleyj89
09-08-2016
I don't understand why "the Americans" are being grouped together because of their nationality, when they are not in a group on their own. They are in a group with Ricky, Katie, James, Sam and Heavy D. Then you have Saira who is drifting further closer to the other group, and Chloe who flits back and forth depending on the day.
muggins14
09-08-2016
Originally Posted by hisdogspot:
“I don't think the squad ( the Americans ) are 'avoiding' Bear and his 'posse' at all

Far from it

The mob wife, in particular, is relentless in her verbal attacks on Bear and anyone who dares to be his friend in there ... the way she is constantly berating Chloe for how "bad" she looks, is especially unpleasant

Then there's Aubrey of course, who has taken the attack to a disgusting level

Frankie has been verbally aggressive too, but largely restrains himself to whispering and scheming with the two women

All in all, the Americans' behaviour has been more reprehensible than the behaviour of the reality TV people

Yet they seem to be getting away with it unchallenged”

bib - we must be watching different versions of the show then!

I haven't seen Frankie be verbally aggressive - I've seen him challenge Bear's stupidity when ruining the coffee, which is what Bear was hoping for. Any rational person would challenge it.

Yep, Aubrey did that one thing - and was told off for it and then gave a follow-up into Bear's mouth at his request!.

Yes, the mob wife is dreadful - I find her pretty unlikeable.

Then we have Bear's behaviour and Heavy's behaviour - they all see much of a muchness to me, although Bear's physical throwing of an item which could have hurt somebody (and broke a window) tops all of it to me.

I don't think BB should be challenging housemates for shouting or arguing, that'd be ridiculous. They are there to ensure that things don't escalate, but interaction between housemates is what the show is all about, so I don't see why you think the Americans should be 'challenged' - unless you mean by other housemates.

If you do, then we have seen how little goes challenged - especially Biggins' and Renee's comments. I think Renee frightens a few of them and they want to keep her onside - as much as Bear does some of them and THEY want to keep him onside (Saira decided she'd kiss his arse to avoid being a target and, of course, to try and remain in the house).
Annabel la
09-08-2016
Originally Posted by al_capo:
“All Ive seen them do is play dares and drink, its hardly terrible behaviour. They are in BB, I would rather be up all night with them than going to bed early. However thats just me, Im young myself and I can relate to them.”

That's fine as long as the laugh is kept between themselves and doesn't interfere with other people.Not sure how young is young ?
Two of them are mid twenties at least.
muggins14
09-08-2016
Originally Posted by shelleyj89:
“I don't understand why "the Americans" are being grouped together because of their nationality, when they are not in a group on their own. They are in a group with Ricky, Katie, James, Sam and Heavy D. Then you have Saira who is drifting further closer to the other group, and Chloe who flits back and forth depending on the day.”

Exactly this really.
Annabel la
09-08-2016
Originally Posted by al_capo:
“All Ive seen them do is play dares and drink, its hardly terrible behaviour. They are in BB, I would rather be up all night with them than going to bed early. However thats just me, Im young myself and I can relate to them.”

I understand that I may have done it at 18 19 even 20 although some are married with children at this age I wasn't.Enoyable though that phase was as long as too much booze wasn't involved so nothing you regretted happened.
Can't see this going on for long and I'm sure wasn't remotely funny to anyone else.
How many continue this into 26 25 and 24 between 3 of them and I know Chloe is at least that age because it is 6 years since her 30 second audition on x factor. You'd look pretty silly doing this at 30 all of it leads to sex.
elfstar89
09-08-2016
I think the Americans know each other (not necessarily bffs) on the outside so their trust with each other is more easily established. They do mix a lot with the other HMs (James, Ricky, Katie, Chloe) and spend more time bonding with them in more authentic ways than Lewis, Marnie, and Bear do.
dorsetwasp
09-08-2016
Originally Posted by Donna65:
“I prefer the Americans over Bear, Marnie, Lewis and Chloe any and every day of the week. I'm really liking the way Renee speaks up to Bear too - she's got him sussed.”

Me too.
dorsetwasp
09-08-2016
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“bib - we must be watching different versions of the show then!

I haven't seen Frankie be verbally aggressive - I've seen him challenge Bear's stupidity when ruining the coffee, which is what Bear was hoping for. Any rational person would challenge it.

Yep, Aubrey did that one thing - and was told off for it and then gave a follow-up into Bear's mouth at his request!.

Yes, the mob wife is dreadful - I find her pretty unlikeable.

Then we have Bear's behaviour and Heavy's behaviour - they all see much of a muchness to me, although Bear's physical throwing of an item which could have hurt somebody (and broke a window) tops all of it to me.

I don't think BB should be challenging housemates for shouting or arguing, that'd be ridiculous. They are there to ensure that things don't escalate, but interaction between housemates is what the show is all about, so I don't see why you think the Americans should be 'challenged' - unless you mean by other housemates.

If you do, then we have seen how little goes challenged - especially Biggins' and Renee's comments. I think Renee frightens a few of them and they want to keep her onside - as much as Bear does some of them and THEY want to keep him onside (Saira decided she'd kiss his arse to avoid being a target and, of course, to try and remain in the house).”

I'm watching your version, Muggins.

Except for one slight difference, I find Renee very likable, especially when she stands up to Bear.
Last edited by dorsetwasp : 09-08-2016 at 18:05
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