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Lady Colin has her say on Biggins removal.
Aura101
09-08-2016
http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/celebri...olin-campbell/

I have to say i agree with her for the most part.
I think this will cause ripples for some time to come, as older established celebrities are going to be even more put off doing the show after this debacle, for being too scared of being chucked out and perhaps even having their reputation in tatters due to a producers decision.
We will just end up with even more series filled with these reality TV no marks like Marnie and Bear,
hisdogspot
09-08-2016
So they didn't pay him his fee then ?
Pitman
09-08-2016
"this isn't Nazi Germany", well if it was surely there wouldn't have been a problem with what he said?

she's obviously a friend of his
Etty_Dee
09-08-2016
I have zero interest in anything that hideous harridan says. She's grotesque.
Annabel la
09-08-2016
Originally Posted by hisdogspot:
“So they didn't pay him his fee then ?”

Don't think this is about money.! And it is a fair point.It is about reputation! It wasn't even a complaint from someone on the show.Itsx come from a relative of Katie.Katie herself was more upset about Bears attitude.The family. comes. their opinion on highlights..I think it likely that bb. was bothered about being sued.
The reality stars have no reputation to lose.
Virgil Tracy
09-08-2016
Heavy D's mom ?
postit
09-08-2016
Originally Posted by hisdogspot:
“So they didn't pay him his fee then ?”

I think it highly unlikely that Biggins didn't get his full fee. He's gone the extra mile to exonerate BB. Consider the damage he could do, if they with-held his fee.
Etty_Dee
09-08-2016
Originally Posted by postit:
“I think it highly unlikely that Biggins didn't get his full fee. He's gone the extra mile to exonerate BB. Consider the damage he could do, if they with-held his fee.”

Surely any housemate is responsible for the words that come out of their mouth. If Biggins had used hate speech or said things the public would find unacceptable, the onus is on him. Far as I can see, BB went out of their way to protect Biggins reputation, not the other way round.
The only way BB would be liable for Biggins words would be if they were scripted. Can you see BB admitting that, even if it were true?
And let's not forget, it's BB producers who decide what gets broadcast to the public. They could have buried the entire palava, Biggins would still be in the house, and none of us would be any the wiser.
M_J2
09-08-2016
Older person with a lot of forthright opinions backs up another oldie who got into hot water about his "opinions".....well i guess we could see that coming.
postit
09-08-2016
Originally Posted by Etty_Dee:
“Surely any housemate is responsible for the words that come out of their mouth. If Biggins had used hate speech or said things the public would find unacceptable, the onus is on him. Far as I can see, BB went out of their way to protect Biggins reputation, not the other way round.
The only way BB would be liable for Biggins words would be if they were scripted. Can you see BB admitting that, even if it were true?
And let's not forget, it's BB producers who decide what gets broadcast to the public. They could have buried the entire palava, Biggins would still be in the house, and none of us would be any the wiser.”

Oh, have you seen the whole holocaust shower conversation? I haven't
Etty_Dee
09-08-2016
Originally Posted by postit:
“Oh, have you seen the whole holocaust shower conversation? I haven't”

Of course I haven't. So what? If Biggins had gone on a rant about Nazis being great and made jokes about millions of murdered people, they would be Biggins own words, not BB's. I don't get your point. We're not going to find out what was actually said, which frankly, sucks.
marbri
09-08-2016
Originally Posted by Annabel la:
“Don't think this is about money.! And it is a fair point.It is about reputation! It wasn't even a complaint from someone on the show.Itsx come from a relative of Katie.Katie herself was more upset about Bears attitude.The family. comes. their opinion on highlights..I think it likely that bb. was bothered about being sued.
The reality stars have no reputation to lose.”

How did Katie's family hear about it? I mean it was never aired.
Etty_Dee
09-08-2016
Originally Posted by marbri:
“How did Katie's family hear about it? I mean it was never aired.”

Parts of the story were in the press before anything was mentioned on BB. There was the Secret Squirrel transcript. Regardless if it was a fake or genuine, it let the cat out of the bag, and after that there was only damage limitation. Biggins is still responsible for his own words. Whatever he said, they got shot of him. They are not obligated to pay him if he breached the terms of his contract.
postit
09-08-2016
Originally Posted by Etty_Dee:
“Of course I haven't. So what? If Biggins had gone on a rant about Nazis being great and made jokes about millions of murdered people, they would be Biggins own words, not BB's. I don't get your point.”

You posited the theory that BB had gone out of their way to protect Biggins by not broadcasting what he said. I maintain that IF he said anything at all about it, it was done in a jokey manner. Certainly Katie has not appeared to be upset about the whole thing.

I truly believe that the whole thing was a stitch-up for ratings. Biggins could surely not have been unhappy to be let out of that dreadful environment, walks away with his paycheque intact, and gives just one interview to give credence to the farce and laughs all the way to the bank.
Etty_Dee
09-08-2016
Originally Posted by postit:
“You posited the theory that BB had gone out of their way to protect Biggins by not broadcasting what he said. I maintain that IF he said anything at all about it, it was done in a jokey manner. Certainly Katie has not appeared to be upset about the whole thing.

I truly believe that the whole thing was a stitch-up for ratings. Biggins could surely not have been unhappy to be let out of that dreadful environment, walks away with his paycheque intact, and gives just one interview to give credence to the farce and laughs all the way to the bank.”

That is a possibility. There are many possibilities. Too bad we'll never find out what really happened.
yohinnchild
09-08-2016
I agree with her in that what's the point in carrying a warning if the HMs are then going to be removed.

There's also the issue that HMs have done/ said far worse than him (even in this series) and weren't removed.

He was removed to gain publicity and so they didn't have to pay him so much
Bunions
09-08-2016
Originally Posted by Pitman:
“"this isn't Nazi Germany", well if it was surely there wouldn't have been a problem with what he said?

she's obviously a friend of his ”

Still King of the Drive By, huh pitman
Pitman
09-08-2016
Originally Posted by yohinnchild:
“I agree with her in that what's the point in carrying a warning if the HMs are then going to be removed.”


it's about the degree of offense,, someone shouting "f*cking ****" is not as offensive as if they said "all jews should be killed"?

personally I am deeply offended by Lewis's muffin top, but they don't have any warnings for that
Wainy84
09-08-2016
He showed his true colours. Underneath all that pathetic laughing there not a very nice person.
He seems to get joy out of demeaning people.
JVS
09-08-2016
As I have pointed out before; I don't think BB wanted to boot Biggins out, they hoped to get away with just a warning, the papers said he was removed after 'discussions with lawyers and Endemol'.
benbeez1
09-08-2016
don't give a !£$% what 'lady' colin says, she's a nasty piece of work
scotch
09-08-2016
She has some vile opinions of her own.

Birds of a feather!
Virgil Tracy
09-08-2016
Originally Posted by JVS:
“As I have pointed out before; I don't think BB wanted to boot Biggins out, they hoped to get away with just a warning, the papers said he was removed after 'discussions with lawyers and Endemol'.”

that's standard practice tho I would've thought .
marbri
09-08-2016
Originally Posted by Etty_Dee:
“Parts of the story were in the press before anything was mentioned on BB. There was the Secret Squirrel transcript. Regardless if it was a fake or genuine, it let the cat out of the bag, and after that there was only damage limitation. Biggins is still responsible for his own words. Whatever he said, they got shot of him. They are not obligated to pay him if he breached the terms of his contract.”

But those reports also included the info that he had been removed right and were to explain why he was removed? So my question remains, you mentioned it wasn't Katie who complained but her family. So if he was removed because the family was upset then how did the family know it happened.

It had to be Katie had a talk with BB or someone on staff was offended and pushed the issue. The other HMs seemed confused about his removal so it couldn't have been a big incident INSIDE the house. Something happened behind the scenes.
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