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Of course not, they always fail to mention the millions of their own citizens they killed.
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Like " Comrade"?
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I haven't heard that used, except in comedy, for at least three or four decades either.
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I'm confused. Is Tom Watson still deputy leader with Corbyn as PM or has he resigned, because if I were leader he'd be out. Hell, if I were leader he'd probably be on the run from the secret police right now if Labour really was infiltrated by the people he seems to think it is.
Does he check for reds under his bed before he goes to sleep? |
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I'm confused. Is Tom Watson still deputy leader with Corbyn as PM or has he resigned, because if I were leader he'd be out. Hell, if I were leader he'd probably be on the run from the secret police right now if Labour really was infiltrated by the people he seems to think it is.
Does he check for reds under his bed before he goes to sleep? It would be undemocratic to get rid of the person the union paymasters are trying to hang onto.
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I know, it was a comedy word for decades, and now it's used all the time by "establishment" politicians such as the Leader of Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition and the Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer.
![]() ![]() https://www.keepitcomradely.org.uk/ "Real Leadership" as they used to say, before Comrade Smith usurped Comrade Eagle's attempt to usurp Comrade Corbyn.
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Astounding
However, allies admit that plans for policymaking at conference are less than complete, given the chaos of the Labour leadership election. The party’s policy forum, scheduled to meet in July, has still not met. http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...byn-tom-watson The thought of this bunch of numpties ever running the country is risible. |
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Tom Watson has a massive mandate too, him and Jewemy compare them daily.
It would be undemocratic to get rid of the person the union paymasters are trying to hang onto. ![]() |
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You would think that given the experience of Lenin, Stalin, Mao. Brezhnev, Trotsky, Castro, Mugabe . Pol Pot, or Chavez, and the failure of all their economies, that no one with any sense would believe anything Marx, Lenin, Trotsky, Mao or their fellows on the hard left had written. Yet we have Labour being taken over by members of the SWP and TUSC, a hard left Labour leader , a shadow Chancellor who reads Mao , and an inner circle of stalinists around Corbyn, stopping him from going back to his allotment
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If they took over as a result of a revolution or civil war, I'd say that was pretty much unavoidable.
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Just wait 'til the Leninists join the Trotskyists in Labour! Then the Stalinists! Then the Maoists!
Before we know it millions will be Labour members! ![]() (And me being assured on this forum down the years by some that the "hard Left" in this country can fit in a phone box!) |
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The typical defending of their attrocities also, do you know anything about Stalin or Mao?
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Would anyone believe a word Tom Watson said, given his background in black ops for Gordon Brown?
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Yes, but they were a bit better than what went before them apparently.
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I thought Stalin & Mao murdered millions of their own countrymen who dared to disagree with them .
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Yes, but they were a bit better than what went before them apparently.
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They weren't, Stalin killed 27 million of his own people and Mao even more.
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However, allies admit that plans for policymaking at conference are less than complete, given the chaos of the Labour leadership election. The party’s policy forum, scheduled to meet in July, has still not met. http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...byn-tom-watson The thought of this bunch of numpties ever running the country is risible. |
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Just wait 'til the Leninists join the Trotskyists in Labour! Then the Stalinists! Then the Maoists!
Before we know it millions will be Labour members! ![]() (And me being assured on this forum down the years by some that the "hard Left" in this country can fit in a phone box!)
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The typical defending of their attrocities also, do you know anything about Stalin or Mao?
The USA and its post war "better dead than red" policy propped up many tyrants and corrupt regimes that still haunt the world today. I'm just looking for some balance. |
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More than you I expect. I'm just pointing out that all the world's atrocities were not committed by leaders from the ideological "left".
just that when talking about the Trotskyist/Marxist/hard left/whatever the millions murdered under Stalin's regime (as an extreme example) or anything that shows the system needed repression to keep opponents down is played down or ignored because to admit that sort of thing went on would mean the ideology and the Leader is not only not perfect but as culpable as any other of using any means 'necessary' to gain and keep power.
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There is a new bit in this saga on Channel 4 news.
Watson is like a dog with a bone, he now wants answers to written questions and it is Corbyn he wants them from. Seems like a do or die mission to get the leadership. |
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There is a new bit in this saga on Channel 4 news.
Watson is like a dog with a bone, he now wants answers to written questions and it is Corbyn he wants them from. Seems like a do or die mission to get the leadership. Quote:
Watson sent the leader’s office a four-page document, based on publicly available information, detailing what he said was evidence that Trotskyists had been attending meetings of grassroots pro-Corbyn Momentum pressure group and seeking to influence the Labour leadership election. http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...r-infiltration
... Watson’s letter was a riposte to the accusation made on Tuesday by Corbyn’s campaign that he was “peddling conspiracy theories” after he said in a Guardian interview that Labour was at risk from “Trotskyist entryists”. Watson wrote: “It’s not a conspiracy theory to say that members of these organisations are joining Labour. It’s a fact.” |
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Nobody said they were?
just that when talking about the Trotskyist/Marxist/hard left/whatever the millions murdered under Stalin's regime (as an extreme example) or anything that shows the system needed repression to keep opponents down is played down or ignored because to admit that sort of thing went on would mean the ideology and the Leader is not only not perfect but as culpable as any other of using any means 'necessary' to gain and keep power. |
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just that when talking about the Trotskyist/Marxist/hard left/whatever the millions murdered under Stalin's regime (as an extreme example) or anything that shows the system needed repression to keep opponents down is played down or ignored because to admit that sort of thing went on would mean the ideology and the Leader is not only not perfect but as culpable as any other of using any means 'necessary' to gain and keep power.