Rylan said this morning on This Morning that it's vote to evict for civilian BB and vote to save for celeb BB, because fans want to vote for their fav celebs as if it was some sweet thing they do?! Just means they get more money's worth out of the fees they pay for the more expensive contestants.

However, because of social media following and, hence voting, it always comes down to how many followers you have, and as Lewis has the most out of all the contestants (I only checked Twitter), he could easily win. Reality stars will always have more followers (apart from the really big names who wouldn't go in) due to the nature of them extending their fake storylines on Twitter between programmes. If you look at ex reality stars like Mark Wright, they don't have anywhere near as many.

I'm writing a book but was told I won't get a publisher unless I have high numbers of followers as its a guarantee nowadays of sales. This is why they all bring out books on how they do their eyelashes etc. as their name will sell it.

I seem to remember thinking that 'followers' and 'votes' haven't been proven to correlate at all from previous results... I might do a check on that later.

Sam Fairs had more than a million followers and didnt even come within spitting distance of winning.
Same for that Ricky from Geordie Bore and Lauren from TOWIE, infact they were out in a (think it was a 6way) double eviction!
Twitter and the followers im sure do have some impact on the voting, but not to the extent people think.
CBB attracts a very young audience and dare i say it chavvy audience. The trashy likes of Marnie and Lewis will always do fairly well, but neither will win.

I was just about to say this!! I remember Sam had a million followers plus literally every cast member from TOWIE tweeting the number and getting votes. Look how she did....

Rylan has a fair point i think. I think for CBB it should be VTS for the very reason he mentioned. If it was VTE then people moan as people moan all the time. There was a time where people were crying over the fact it was VTE for BB14 and wanted VTS.

It's not always about followers though. Remember what happened to the likes of Natalie and Kirk on CBB9? Especially Kirk, he had more followers than most of the others put together and still polled the least in a VTS (he has 1.3m followers right now).

And like we said, Sam came 5th despite having the most followers. Denise won despite having far less than Frankie.

Ricci also has 757,000 followers and couldn't beat Audley, Dee, Edele, Gary, James and George despite having more followers than all of them put together.

People that moan about vote to save have been whining for years. It's a popularity show, therefore people vote for who they like, i.e to save. Like Bear for example. Bear to win. Vote SAVE.

It's supposed to be a popularity contest just like other realities.

Imagine IAC, X Factor and BGT had a VTE style? The great singers would be voted out in Week 1 because they are a threat.

They're not complaining about 'vote to save' really. What they are really doing is wanting to change the rules in favour of some dullard that they want to win. If 'vote to save' benefitted their house favourite you wouldn't hear a word from them. They are enemies of democracy. Bear to win.

If anyone's interested I just did a quickie twitter check on the top 5 of CBB15 ...and they all placed in the complete reverse order of who had the most followers.

Katie Price (1st place) 12.6 thousand
Katie Hopkins (2nd place) 47.6 thousand.
Calum Best (3rd place) 62. 5 thousand
Keith Chegwin (4th place) 173 thousand
Michelle Visage (5th place) 276 thousand

I don't think you can measure potential votes against actual followers. Doesn't work

It ignores the fact that 'follower' does not equal 'fan'. It ignores the fact that 'followers' can be purchased. It ignores the fact that 'followers' can be outside of the UK and it DEFINITELY ignores the fact that a 'follower' doesn't equal a viewer... How can it? Add up all the followers of all the housemates in a single series and you'd be looking at ratings to rival a Morcambe & Wise Christmas special.

No, the launch night topped the weekly Channel 5 figures but the other nights were all behind CAN'T PAY? WE'LL TAKE IT AWAY. This is for W/E 31st July.

The launch night only has a higher audience, it then drops off.

http://www.barb.co.uk/viewing-data/weekly-top-30/

Apologies KT just realised you have done totals, let me look at those.

ETA You are correct, apart from one night it was behind Can't Pay? We'll Take it Away. It will be interesting to see the official figures for w/e 7/ August when they come out.

Well we know Bear will be all for himself , and reading between the lines does it mean we dont get to vote AGAIN for who is out
I will be watching to see how BB saves Bear and friends again
GET THE MORON`S AND TARTS OUT

It will! Let us meet back here the date they arrive!

Indeed, I'm not watching it but still interested. I think all the shows will have taken a hit last Friday night because it was the opening ceremony of The Olympics.

See you when they are out then.

Vote to save is nothing to do with this.

What is to do with this Celebrity version is the cast the producers put on, the edit (with pretend showmance and bias) and the audience the show has been aiming for on CH5.

It's hard, because both have drawbacks. Vote to save really makes more sense as it's voting to KEEP the ones we actually want on our screens. but then vote to evict is the show's foundation, voting out the worst ones. Vote to evict was fine last series really, and Bear etc are ruining the series for a lot of people so vote to evict would save it. However, there's really no way to know

Interestingly Big Brother Australia once had a combined thing but if I recall correctly it was a bit of a mess!

Big Brother Australia worked pretty well overall actually, even if the winner wasn't always good you had some good HMs getting to the end.

The best part of the last series was actually a twist that put Lateysha out and vote to save that put Ryan at risk. And the vote to win at the end gave a decent winner for most people.

I have always preferred VTE and it doesn't change with who is up. I've believed this for years

I've always thought that they should make it VTE in the first half of a series and then make it VTS in the second half, or vice versa.