Chloe is a grown ADULT woman. Sam Fox was a child.

It wasn't said in tongue in cheek either. And it wasn't funny because she told a blatant lie

She felt out-smarted by Heavy and didn't really have a good retort.

At the end of the day she posed with her tits out plain and simple. She is nothing but a big hypocrite like others of her ilk who do things then try to make excuses as to why their action/behaviour isn't as bad.

That is what the thread is about. It certainly isn't about people being po-faced about what Chloe did or didn't do. Others have just turned it into a competition over whose actions were worse. To me they both bared their breast knowing it is a turn on for men and are no better or have the right to call one down to make their own actions appear to be something different. Sam is a total hypocrite IMO.

Jesus calm down.

No Sam it was never art, it was about making a lot of money by stripping off so that the pervs could get off on seeing breasts.

The difference is at least hers were real. Chloe is flashing a couple of lumps of silicone.

Sorry but if you have this attitude then you must also damn countless HMs from BB going back to the first series and that includes men who have also bared all. Chloe was having a laugh whilst tipsy like many, many before and that is why I called the reaction on here po-faced.

Sam is equally po-faced and she is delusional to be calling page 3 art.

Sam must think those builders and truck drivers were admiring the photography and not drooling over her tits.

Heavy was right, Sam's gone down in my estimation now. She had no right to take the moral high ground there.

I had to LOL at this. No it wasn't 'art' but it was harmless fun from a different time. What Chloe was doing was lewd and nasty.

Sam took herself a bit seriously there I think

Lewd perhaps, but nasty ?

she had a sense of humour bypass there, what Heavy said was quite funny, she should have left at 'I never had a pole'

I honestly think she did try to come up with a witty retort. "Mine was art" wasn't a bad comeback, but she still looked a bit annoyed at the same. I'm pretty sure she wasn't being 100% serious though.

Yeah, like grimy and basic. Sam was cheeky and playful. I think that's the distinction for me.

Okay, you're using synonyms that mean nothing to me I'm afraid. To me, nasty means spiteful, grimy means dirty/unclean and basic means rudimentary. I'm not sure how those words relate to one another, or how any of them can be applied to Chloe and her pole dancing.

That is her story . Unfortunately there are a lot of men who groom their daughters for all sorts of things.Sam was a natural beauty.It just happened she became one of the most popular page 3 girls .There was nothing untasteful by today's standards.
Lots of parents start their kids of on these paths.
Sometimes even into petty crime.
Once Sam realised that this was all she was known for she started to turn her life in a different direction.
Her figure is still fabulous all natural.She doesn't want or need to flaunt it .
She's not used by men and doesn't use men.
She prefers women and to her it was no more than posing tastefully nude for artists.
Chloe has simply spent nearly a hundred thousand to make her available to men .She just strips off anywhere.
Marnie is bizarre being bisexual.
Don't ever member anything about Sam stripping off for the fun of it .Art? nothing photographic .If a nude can be tasteful she was the nearest thing to it.

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Chloe never looks clean l don't know why .Maybe she washes her hair etc every day and removed her make up meticulously.Her hair and face do look grimy.
Her pole dancing topless was tasteless.Her boobs are awful.I wish she'd get herself sorted and become an ordinary woman with a kid.

Yeah, I thought so too. Love how she was called on her comment although I am not a fan of Chloe.

Really? Well, I must have misunderstood what dirty dancing was for all these years.

No art in taking your clothes of
I do it every night before sleep idoes that make it art .

She's turned into a boring ole hag with a big dose of delusional to her name such a shame .

Well you're either being deliberately obtuse or need to try a bit harder

There's a world of difference between being sexual in a dirty, grimy, nasty way and being sexual in a playful, saucy way.

Whether you choose to see that is your call.

It was a bit "self-important" but she was what she was at the time and Chloe is what she is and they're quite different. Sam was being a bit snobby but I wouldn't call her a hag.

I assure you I'm not being deliberately obtuse. You described Chloe's actions (pole dancing) as being 'nasty', and I don't understand that. So you're saying you meant 'dirrrty' (Aguilera-style)? Is that not also playful though? When you get dirty in the bedroom are you not being playful?

You seem to be trying very hard to squeeze a few extra pejoratives out of this. You should have just stopped at lewd, which it was.

I don't really understand why Sam is trying to re-write history. She's w*** rag fodder and she knows it and she made a career out of it. She was very keen to point out that she is a singer with x amount of albums sold in the DR earlier in the series. Perhaps she's embarrased and calling it art makes it less seedy.

I don't know if Chloe is lying or not about what she does for money exactly - but these 'pay to party' deals she did as a teenager sound dodgy yes....but ultimately, she is using her tits to have a media career and in that sense she is no different from Sam and Sam is no different from her. Just because Chloe might to dancing and webcam stuff doesn't therefore make Sam's career as a glamour model 'art'.

Except in Sam's head.