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WHATM - Summer CBB 2016 - Day 15 - Midnight to 1am - August 11 - 5*
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Verence
11-08-2016
Originally Posted by HailHenrik:
“Seems like a poisonous atmosphere in there.

Can't remember the last time there was such a massive divide? There's obviously been divides in the past but this big? There doesn't seem to be anyone in the middle either..they've all nailed their colours to the mast.”

BB9

Whisper Club vs B Block
Dix
11-08-2016
Originally Posted by HailHenrik:
“Seems like a poisonous atmosphere in there.

Can't remember the last time there was such a massive divide? There's obviously been divides in the past but this big? There doesn't seem to be anyone in the middle either..they've all nailed their colours to the mast.”


The Quartet who forced this divide V the others. Ridiculous,as if it was meant to be that way!
trevor tiger
11-08-2016
Originally Posted by DUNDEEBOY:
“Where do the squad sleep these days”

With the rest but they don't turn up until everyone else is fast asleep. All the better to wake them all up
OGB
11-08-2016
Originally Posted by Dix:
“Think Renee should get out of bed and be amongst the cretins, and stay there like Queen Victoria would have done, sitting straight up, and no nonsense about it.

Staying in bed is a sign of weakness, which she can't afford to have”

She's actually rallying the troops as she realises she can't fight the battle alone. Weak or manipulative? You decide.
CupidStunt2010
11-08-2016
Originally Posted by DUNDEEBOY:
“Before or after the surgery”

i didn't know they had surgery
Salv*
11-08-2016
300+ replies for live feed where nothing really happened is quite impressive!
Rogana Josh
11-08-2016
Originally Posted by CupidStunt2010:
“Channel 5 is full of trash”

The TV version of The Daily Star
Dix
11-08-2016
What the Others could do is to take their share of the food & drink for their use only. Then eat somewhere well away from the Quartet which would actually work, as the Quartet would wonder what they're up to, as it's human nature to find out. But if the Others did nothing then the Quartet know they are the winners. Renee could start that tomorrow say, do a total divide, as it's not that way quite now, as Ricky and Katie went over to the cretins when they should have stayed away.
Alrightmate
11-08-2016
Originally Posted by Dix:
“Think Renee should get out of bed and be amongst the cretins, and stay there like Queen Victoria would have done, sitting straight up, and no nonsense about it.

Staying in bed is a sign of weakness, which she can't afford to have”

'Bed housemates' don't seem to do that well.
You only have to look at the last series of BB to see that.

Dossing around in the bedroom spending most of the time bitching hardly ever looks good on BB.
Dix
11-08-2016
Originally Posted by OGB:
“She's actually rallying the troops as she realises she can't fight the battle alone. Weak or manipulative? You decide. ”

But, she's got to do that sitting up, and not showing any sign of weakness. Her side has to nom the other side, no question about that. Renee has to be super smart to outwit Bear, which she can do out of the bed, but not in it. A warrior doesn't go to bed, he's out looking at all the options, and the lay of the land before he can strike hard. Renee has to get out of that blasted bed and be a great Warrior, and stop whimpering and thinking about the mum aspect. Boudica went for the kill, and didn't hang around to do that.

Of the 2 groups the Quartet are the strongest,as Renee's group think of other stuff when they should think of the fight. Watched them tonight and they are an unprepared motely, and not a warrior band!
OGB
11-08-2016
Originally Posted by Dix:
“What the Others could do is to take their share of the food & drink for their use only. Then eat somewhere well away from the Quartet which would actually work, as the Quartet would wonder what they're up to, as it's human nature to find out. But if the Others did nothing then the Quartet know they are the winners. Renee could start that tomorrow say, do a total divide, as it's not that way quite now, as Ricky and Katie went over to the cretins when they should have stayed away.”

I kind of agree, but if the 'others' froze the quartet of waste out, it would intensify the malicious and bad feeling already pervading the house. I think, mostly, they would all prefer to live in peace and harmony instead of waging war, faction against faction AND have to battle with BB. BB are actually light relief as opposed to the real 'enemy', which is a damning indictment of how far we have come since BB began.

Re: Katie and Ricky, Katie went to have a cigarette and was talking to everyone present about her mum. Ricky went with her and his face was like thunder and he interacted very little. The whole 'mum' conversation by Katie was off the back of them discussing how angry they would be if anyone treated their mothers in the way in which they perceive the quartet of waste treating Renee.

Not sure why I'm saying all this, because we all just watched it.

Side point: I don't think Renee clearly established her 'role' in the house. She didn't want to assume the mother role. the cougar role failed in epic fashion, the fear factor only works on the weaker girls (Chloe and Katie) and the friend to everyone fell apart when she was rebuffed by Bear and by default rejected by the rest of the waste crew.

Now she has no defined role and is feeling really displaced and completely out of her comfort zone. The rallying of the troops is to gain some traction and she has made it very clear, her loyalty is only to Frankie and Aubrey. The rest she is using.

Well that was rather long wasn't it.
Hardeep_Singh
11-08-2016
Originally Posted by OGB:
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Side point: I don't think Renee clearly established her 'role' in the house. She didn't want to assume the mother role. the cougar role failed in epic fashion, the fear factor only works on the weaker girls (Chloe and Katie) and the friend to everyone fell apart when she was rebuffed by Bear and by default rejected by the rest of the waste crew.

Now she has no defined role and is feeling really displaced and completely out of comfort zone. The rallying of the troops is to gain some traction and she has made it very clear, her loyalty is only to Frankie and Aubrey. The rest she is using.

Well that was rather long wasn't it. ”

Summed up superbly.

She appears to view herself as a figure of authority. The whole mob wife thing has really gone to her head and she seems to automatically assume everyone fears her. That hasn't been the case. The young ones have refused to give her that power and she has found that hard to accept.

She also hasn't handled rejection well. She had no problem with either Chloe or Bear until Bear rejected her and then kissed Chloe. Since then she's been bitter and jealous.
Dix
11-08-2016
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“'Bed housemates' don't seem to do that well.
You only have to look at the last series of BB to see that.

Dossing around in the bedroom spending most of the time bitching hardly ever looks good on BB.”

That's why they will fall, no proper organisation for a real fight.
Vicky8675309
11-08-2016
Originally Posted by Hardeep_Singh:
“Summed up superbly.

She appears to view herself as a figure of authority. The whole mob wife thing has really gone to her head and she seems to automatically assume everyone fears her. That hasn't been the case. The young ones have refused to give her that power and she has found that hard to accept.

She also hasn't handled rejection well. She had no problem with either Chloe or Bear until Bear rejected her and then kissed Chloe. Since then she's been bitter and jealous.”

Just like Boom and his jealousy and bitterness over Chloe picking Bear over him. Boom and Renee are very similar (bitter and jealous)
Hardeep_Singh
11-08-2016
Originally Posted by Vicky8675309:
“Just like Boom and his jealousy and bitterness over Chloe picking Bear over him. Boom and Renee are very similar (bitter and jealous)”

Their situations are identical. Both created imaginary relationships in their heads.
OGB
11-08-2016
Originally Posted by Hardeep_Singh:
“Summed up superbly.

She appears to view herself as a figure of authority. The whole mob wife thing has really gone to her head and she seems to automatically assume everyone fears her. That hasn't been the case. The young ones have refused to give her that power and she has found that hard to accept.

She also hasn't handled rejection well. She had no problem with either Chloe or Bear until Bear rejected her and then kissed Chloe. Since then she's been bitter and jealous.”

Just to add, I thought it was very interesting (and I haven't seen it mentioned elsewhere) that Renee wasn't in the DR with the rest of the 'others' when they went in to complain. The 'revolt' was led by James and neither Ricky or Renee were present. The only possible explanation would be that like Heavy D, she was in the bedroom asleep. I'm not sure of the timeline because of the deceptive editing, but I'm not buying, for a second, that this was done without Aubrey and Frankie getting clearance from their 'leader' first. If I'm right, it's another example of her getting the expendable troops to go over the frontline first. Collateral damage.

Apart from the trio of waste (not including Chloe, who the other 3 don't consider to be a threat in any way), the only people from the others who really has their eye on the prize, I think, are Frankie and Ricky. The rest either don't have the stomach for it or know that they have no chance of winning and have chosen flight/survival instead of fight.
Dix
11-08-2016
Originally Posted by OGB:
“I kind of agree, but if the 'others' froze the quartet of waste out, it would intensify the malicious and bad feeling already pervading the house. I think, mostly, they would all prefer to live in peace and harmony instead of waging war, faction against faction AND have to battle with BB. BB are actually light relief as opposed to the real 'enemy', which is a damning indictment of how far we have come since BB began.

Re: Katie and Ricky, Katie went to have a cigarette and was talking to everyone present about her mum. Ricky went with her and his face was like thunder and he interacted very little. The whole 'mum' conversation by Katie was off the back of them discussing how angry they would be if anyone treated their mothers in the way in which they perceive the quartet of waste treating Renee.

Not sure why I'm saying all this, because we all just watched it.

Side point: I don't think Renee clearly established her 'role' in the house. She didn't want to assume the mother role. the cougar role failed in epic fashion, the fear factor only works on the weaker girls (Chloe and Katie) and the friend to everyone fell apart when she was rebuffed by Bear and by default rejected by the rest of the waste crew.

Now she has no defined role and is feeling really displaced and completely out of her comfort zone. The rallying of the troops is to gain some traction and she has made it very clear, her loyalty is only to Frankie and Aubrey. The rest she is using.

Well that was rather long wasn't it. ”

Hold on a minute, Boudica went to war and failed too, so maybe Renee is a bit like her, and will also fail. If Renee is only for Frankie and Aubrey then she can't win, unless she kills one of the Quartet to make it an equal number. But there's Sam, Ricky and Katie who seem to be in Renee's group, or you could call them scouts, except they have to be part of a group to make any difference. Renee is letting down her 2 mates and the UK scouts/runners. Shame really, as she could have been so good at the war game. Think I'll use a wooden Trojan Horse to wake her up

Your post was interesting btw
Last edited by Dix : 11-08-2016 at 01:53
OGB
11-08-2016
Originally Posted by Dix:
“Hold on a minute, Boudica went to war and failed too, so maybe Renee is a bit like her, and will also fail. If Renee is only for Frankie and Aubrey then she can't win, unless she kills one of the Quartet to make it an equal number. But there's Sam, Ricky and Katie who seem to be in Renee's group, or you could call them scouts, except they have to be part of a group to make any difference. Renee is letting down her 2 mates and the UK scouts/runners. Shame really, as she could have been so good at the war game. Think I'll use a wooden Trojan Horse to wake her up

Your post was interesting btw”

You too. Boudica!

Renee played her hand way too early, called everyone's bluff and it turns out she had a 3 of hearts, a motorbike top trump and an Uno card.

The Americans are utterly bemused by the definition of 'celebrity' here in the UK. Can you imagine how the conversation must have gone when she asked the quartet, 'what do you do?'. Renee must be thinking, 'don't they know who I am?'. That's why she said Bear would be her roofer back home. Her frustration is a lot to do with the fact that whether they do or not, no one really cares. Reputation doesn't travel well across 'the pond'. It's a great leveller.
Dix
11-08-2016
Originally Posted by Hardeep_Singh:
“Summed up superbly.

She appears to view herself as a figure of authority. The whole mob wife thing has really gone to her head and she seems to automatically assume everyone fears her. That hasn't been the case. The young ones have refused to give her that power and she has found that hard to accept.

She also hasn't handled rejection well. She had no problem with either Chloe or Bear until Bear rejected her and then kissed Chloe. Since then she's been bitter and jealous.”

If you look at the mother and children aspect, Children have always rebelled against their parent/s, and that's what could have happened with the Quartet. Renee then withdrew into herself, and only came out when she thought the kids needed chastisement. But as she's treating the Quartet as kids then she's not doing herself any favours, and no chance of winning. She has to stop and look at what she's doing! She says she's only loyal to Frankie and Aubrey, which is bunkum, as she's not making any effort to help them get to the winning post,as it were, because she's too tied up with the Quartet!

The kids will win because Renee isn't a mother in the real sense to them! She's forgotten she's on a TV show, where dog eats dog.
Dix
11-08-2016
Originally Posted by OGB:
“ You too. Boudica!

Renee played her hand way too early, called everyone's bluff and it turns out she had a 3 of hearts, a motorbike top trump and an Uno card.

The Americans are utterly bemused by the definition of 'celebrity' here in the UK. Can you imagine how the conversation must have gone when she asked the quartet, 'what do you do?'. Renee must be thinking, 'don't they know who I am?'. That's why she said Bear would be her roofer back home. Her frustration is a lot to do with the fact that whether they do or not, no one really cares. Reputation doesn't travel well across 'the pond'. It's a great leveller. ”

lol, You're right there re cards held. Can't stop laughing, shame, as I wanted her to be like a Mafia wife so that the HMs would walk on eggshells in her presence, so she let me down. Bear runs rings around her and she oozes affection. He plays up because of her. I'm sure after some cuddles she could get Bear to be her roofer easily. But if she gave him one dark look, he'd be on that roof fast enough. lol Playing the hard case isn't same as being one, so she's not doing well is she. In a way she's lost her reputation and wallowing in self-pity, yet she could redeem herself if she really wanted to. Maybe staying in bed is her comfort zone.


Think I'll go to bed before my brain fades altogether, and wonder what Renee is dreaming about as I'd like to know. But thanks for the laugh
Last edited by Dix : 11-08-2016 at 02:39
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