At what message BB is sending to society. I watch every show, I am aware I could switch off but I enjoy watching, bit of a guilty pleasure like smoking, you know it's an irrational habit and others think you are pond life for doing it but one continues to do so. I enjoy the fun bits, I love the contention, I love to hate some, I hate to love others but I have to say I am becoming increasingly more worried and bemused at the message it sends out to people about what is acceptable behaviour and what is not. I first heard of Biggins' removal before I had seen his Aids conversation, so I thought it may have been about his first bisexual conversation, of which I thought was a foolish opinion and conversation to have on his part, but just that, his opinion. So when I heard he'd had another similar conversation I thought he must have been, perhaps, a lot more antagonistic this time. So then I saw the episode, whilst I neither agree nor disagree (I sound like Rylan)! With Biggins statement, I do not know if it is fact or hearsay, I did not feel that in any way did he have an attitude of malice while he was saying it. I felt it came across as just his opinion, in a non heated discussion about the subject. I know it was a contentious thing to say but no argument or offence ensued within the discussion between the two people and I wonder, rightly or wrongly, maybe it would have been a better course of action diplomatically, of BB to have not aired the conversation rather than removing him from the house. However, the decision to only give a warning to Aubrey for spitting in Bear's food and drink and then, more disturbingly, allow him to consume it (presuming BB monitor the proceeding's continuously) and then airing the footage, I find completely baffling! The act itself I found to be vile and disgusting on Aubrey's part but to then more or less condone it by allowing the viewers to see it without real consequence is surely irresponsible to say the least! Not to mention the condoning of any kind of behaviour is totally acceptable as long as performed within a 'dare' as in the Marnie/Saira episode which I found to be intimidating and verging on bullying (I said verging on). I despair of any kind of moral message being presented to society by what some, sadly misguided people see as role models.
However, after that rant, of which I apologise for the length of, I will still watch the show so does that make me a hypocrite? I will have to ponder that question at length
I welcome any thoughts and opinions, but keep it gracious please, this my opinion only and I do not wish to offend

... tldr

I am sorry but i gave up on your post after the first two lines.

Maybe an idea to paragraph as you will find most of the FM's on here won't read it either.


Don't take this bad

I agree and gave up. Sorry to the O/P

I agree with much of that.
It is a concern what morale standards they are brain washing da yoof of today with.
They don't seem consistent at all.

We've heard BB tell people off for "language which may cause offense to the housemates or viewing public", surely Renee labelling Chloe a prossy for copping off with Bear was offensive to some other females.
The viewing public part of that rule is nonsense anyway, there's this thing in TV production called editing and the bird song button they have on the live broadcasts.

And the invading personal space thing, when Siara went over to have a pop at Heavy D laying in his bed, invading his space and towering over him in a threatening manner.

Their rules about bullying are bullcrap too. We've heard them say that singling out and ganging up on a HM is unacceptable, effectively giving the Bear and Perez types a license to alienate everyone without consequence. Which effectively communicates that one bully can wind up the whole house, but the house are powerless to respond to it in any meaningful way.

IMHO they are playing a game and an agenda with their PC rules, and setting some terrible examples for the sheeple whom are incapable of independent though and critical reasoning.

I did, and what's more, I agreed with it.

Tut Tut

It's not just the "yoof" that are being "brainwashed" it's just as much if not more the adults. Maybe if us adults can see it and deal with it then we could help the young ones understand why its a problem.

If you really look at what young people have access too and you will see they have more options in what they see (good and bad). The bad bits is mostly on things made for us adults.

I have a sneaking suspicion that these posts sort of answer the OP's question.

BB is sending a strong message out that it's absolutely fine to behave badly as long as you couch it in terms that you're just "having a laugh" or it's "banter".

People don't need to be eloquent or patient as they might risk being labelled as boring.

BB seem to be suggesting that intelligent conversation is to be despised, yet running around screeching, stripping off and getting drunk is to be admired.

Yet we continue to watch. For some I think it's a bit like the freak shows of old. People claim they are disgusted and disturbed but still look on.

Personally speaking, I have watched every BB since the beginning, and do feel a certain loyalty to the programme. I am an eternal optimist, and I always hope that good people in the house will prevail and come out on top. Sometimes I'm thoroughly disappointed (Helen Wood) - other times I'm delighted (Shilpa Shetty)

However, this CBB has probably been one of the worst for horrible, spiteful bullying and sheer fatuous, vacuous, dim witted behaviour. My loyalty is being severely stretched!

Sorry but i just can't read a post that is not paragraphed. It gives me a sore head so i don't even know what the OP has written.

Hi-I see what you're getting at with your thread, however i think many people are now beyond frustrated at the double standards of the production team. So little has been shown of certain incidents (for whatever reason), that we will probably never get the full story of what actually happened.
I have always watched BB/CBB and will also continue to do so, as it's a hard habit to break, (and we can live in hope that it might change), but deep down also know that nothing the public says will make a bit of difference to what is shown. C5 have got what they want, in that BB is making the headlines (albeit for the wrong reasons), and they don't seem to care about morality or decency as long as the viewing public is tuning in, and so will keep editing the programme to suit.

Yes, good analogy, thank you, a kind of morbid fascination maybe.

I bothered to read it OP, and agree with what your are saying.

I also agree with Jeanie's post.

As I am a older viewer and have been watching from the very beginning, but am starting to realise that perhaps its out of habit now rather than enjoyment, but its that time of year where the channels are putting out really poor offerings.

That's a pity because you've missed out on reading a very good post.

And this explains everything about BB in 2016. Anything that requires a bit more attention or time and effort is dismissed and discarded.
Should we start posting pictures , then words need not be used at all!!

Oh no! Is that why when i enter into a rational and interesting conversation with someone their eyes begin to glaze over?

Seriously though, no offence taken, i did apologise for the extraordinary length of what was more an essay than a post and I quite understand how daunting all those words can be.

Thank you for your kind response though

I enjoyed your post though-some great points made hence my response 🙂

You are very wise to be asking yourself these kinds of questions imo OP

Agreed!

It's the Immediate Gratification Generation - everyone is perpetually impatient.

I think BB would be surprised to learn they were supposed to sending a message to society.

Totally my feelings too as a viewer from the start

I agree totally, and thank you.

With regards to BB's editing, t'other night when Lewis and Marnie had their 'argument' on the live feed it showed Bear hearing both sides of the story and deciding to take Marnie's side, fair enough, but then on the highlights show, if I recall correctly apologies if I haven't, they just showed Bear's discussion about it with Chloe as anti Lewis and pro Marnie, without context to his view. I am not a great fan of Bear but it did strike me as a tad unfair.
Also you are completely correct about nothing we say will make a difference to what is shown as we are at least talking about it.

Well said OP I also took the time to read your post and I agree with every thing you say about BBs double standards .
By the way take no notice of the paragraph police on here who do not take the time to read your post but have plenty of time to reply to chide you on said post

I think the opposite is true.

Well, even with the absence of paragraphs (what we talking of here, two taps on the return key) it's hardly hard work to read it without those two taps is it?

I agree with your post entirely.