I dunno man, as much as I dislike what and who she is in that house, I'm still feeling sorry for her.

She seems like such a lost soul on the LF sometimes, clinging onto Boar like she's lost at sea. He's treating her like an object but it seems like it's at least 'something' for her.

No doubt when she has that argument tonight I'll change my mind again but she does make me sad sometimes.

It's Chloe using Bear, for airtime. She admitted she doesn't even find him attractive. Without Bear, she would be a nonentity in the house. That girl knows exactly what she is doing. Every time they put on their sad sex shows, she is constantly checking for the camera.

I know what you mean, but then I see just how poisonous she actually is, and I remember just how doggedly she's embarked on her career and how much money she has, and remember that she is NO victim.


She does what she does, to get what she wants. She's massively upped her profile, that's worth it to her.

I hear you, the 'sex shows' are so empty and crass and she's a professional in that realm.

He went into the DR on the LF and she just switched off, when he came out she just followed him like a puppy and proceeded to get mauled and groped.

It's the emptiness of it that adds to the tragedy. It is what it is I guess and people do what they do.

I realise many will disagree with me, but I think she's quite an intelligent person. I've listened to her on a few live feeds and she made perfect sense. If you listen rather than look at her, you'll hear the same, I'm sure.

I don't feel sorry for her though. She's got the intelligence to stand up for herself and to behave better, she's made her choice.

I hear what you're saying as well. I don't think she's a victim, it's just a sorry state of affairs for someone.

Like I said when I see her having a go later I'm sure I'll oscillate again

It does make me sad though, the way young women feel the need to completely destroy their looks and bodies the way they do. And I do blame the Jordan for that.

I don't get the impression that she is very bright, she needs the clique for emotional support. Ignoring the sex antics she seems like a nice person.

That's exactly what her friend said that she is using Bear. I watched little bit of love island as I'm off with a broken leg. Not one of the couple's who made love made a sound!!
What on earth was she doing? From the sounds coming from her when out of sight with Bear she's learnt that she thinks men like that noise! It was so desperate!

She makes me sad too. Not for the same reasons tho.

I remember the noises coming from that desperate pair off the X Factor (was it last year?), most of the sounds were coming from him. Urgh.