I wonder if some housemates are in on it and some are clueless? Or when the morons start playing up to the camera, the other housemates know exactly what they are doing and get even more pissed off, because by then they suddenly realize, CBB has nothing to do with letting certain personalities naturally shine through. All they are is fodder for the scripted reality actors? That it gets to the point that they think, right, I'll sit here and coast through and screw the producers and refuse to get involved! Yeah, I'd be naffed off royally too. What a stuff up!

It appears folks, not only are fame-crazy reality fluff in front of the lens, they are also making ground behind the scenes, because, Unless you are of that mind, how the hell can you call any of this entertainment? And we all know how they like to give each other a leg up in this business. How very sordid it all is.

How can you achieve more (by colluding with another HM) if you do it before you're in the house? There's a lot you don't know before you go in that you do know after, so that you can make more effective plans.

The main problem with doing it in the house is that BB may catch you at it. But if it doesn't concern nominations, it's not against the rules, and if BB is happy with the results, you'll probably get away with it.

accidentally brilliant, I suppose.

That wouldn't stop it though,it would just stop people publicly talking about it.
I'd prefer that none of that went on at all.

Before they entered the house

By not telling them who else was going in?

And not all having the same agents would help too :facepalm:

http://www.intriguemanagement.co.uk/clients/
Anyone notice "Sebastian Grace"? Isn't that BB 13's Arron??

It's 12 if you count the ones in the testimonials!


Not sure but Arron Lowe is in the testimonials too!

And a contractual rule that categorically prohibits any prior contact in a certain time frame before the show starts. If found out, instant boot from the house, no fee or a name and shame afterwards. As opposed to a blatant whitewash and cover up!

Appearances suggest to me that they don't have this rule, or don't enforce it, thus adding fuel to the fire of BB being quietly complicit.

But what is the actual problem with HMs colluding before they go in, as compared to doing it once they're in the house? Since (uless it's something like discussing nominations) the HMs could have the same conversation in the house without breaking any rules, it seems odd to have such an extreme rule against having the conversation before going in.

I completely agree.

It seems to me that the mention of the instant chat of 'whatsapp' is what upset them.

Why? I've no idea, because like you say, what's the difference when we get to know that half of them have been at auditions etc together and most have the same bloody agents. Who the hell are the producers trying to kid? And in this case, what are they trying to hide?

As just one example. Promiscuous/'carefree' HMs meet to check each other out in advance and hook up to see if they can have some 'fun' together. They find out they can and hatch a plan to do just that in the house for screentime.

If they don't gel they agree to put it on for the cameras (e.g. faking stuff in the shower or the toilet) unless and until they meet someone they really like at which point they have a code phrase like 'oh bloody nora Lewis this tea is cold!' and they go their separate ways, so to speak, for their presumed benefit of all involved.

They agree not to nominate each other at least.

A second example would appear to be Renee apparently courting both Chloe and Bear (that we know of) in advance. Friendships/allegiances developed/hints or promises of career favours in future if they follow the dominant one's line (as Chloe almost totally spelled out in her eviction interview).

I would like to think none of that would be tolerated in the BB house, but 'The GC' showed who is really in control of things - and it ain't BB. To be honest I doubt the main culprits we suspect were involved either haven't seen enough of the show (Renee) or are simply too thick.

Seems like no oneed cares, these "celebs" have been doing it for years

Forfeiting their fee is definitely the way to go.

However, it has been suggested that this year by using so many reality tv stars CBB has become a massive promotion for those reality shows. The latest broadcast featured an advertisement for Ex on the Beach starring ..... Bear. I think this probably breaks every rule in the book and does seem to make the argument that CBB has sold out to reality shows very compelling.

BRILLIANT!! Even the presenter has had a guts full of it. Producers, TAKE NOTE.
Or maybe that's what they want. They want this new brain dead plastic Geordie Shaw loving audience to be their new target audience.

My thoughts exactly. If it's full of reality stars next year, I'll tune out after first episode. There wasn't much difference between the normal and celeb show this year.

BB's stance on this is beyond ridiculous. If they are going to fill the house with reality "celebs", many of whom share the same agent, they only make themselves look pathetic when they release a statement saying that to their knowledge none of the HMs were previously acquainted.
If they really don't understand how networking in media works, they shouldn't be in broadcasting.

It is lazy cross- marketing .

We don't know that they do. The problem with the celebrity version is that it would be really easy to find out. Even if they didn't have the same agents, agents and managers still communicate with each other... Plus things leak to the press anyway. We all knew a couple of the people going in before the start too.

The only way I could see it being prevented is to pick, say, forty people and have them all clear their diaries for the big brother month but not tell them which ones have been selected until a couple of days before.

But really, what's the point? What does it matter? What exactly can these twonks even arrange beforehand that would be so unfair anyway? "Let's have a fake romance." ...so what? I've never seen a romance on cbb that the public don't immediately declare fake anyway. "Let's agree never to nominate each other." Yeah right, good luck with that! We all know that tune will change the moment they're in there, they ALL want to win!

I mean take the situation that's caused all this discussion. Renne contacting Chloe and Bear... That's worked out well for her hasn't it?

Naaaa don't care.

Of course it matters. It's the whole concept of BB. A diverse mix of people put together and having no contact with the outside world. If its now all pre planned and scripted, its no longer BB, its just another Towie or Geordie Shore. In which case I won't be watching in future, just as I don't watch the other scripted shows with these kn#b heads.