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Old 02-12-2016, 12:04
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You forgot Australia, both albums came in at #2 there.

They seem more interested in getting the base established in mainland Europe this time around. They just performed in a big Spanish awards show and the album debuted the highest it ever has for them at #9 there.

Comparing Get Weird v Glory Days ww debut sales its not off that much abroad?

GW : 109k total ww 60k(57k) UK, 49k(52k) intl. *** http://www.mediatraffic.de/albums-week47-2015.htm
GD : 135k total ww 91k UK, 44k intl. http://www.mediatraffic.de/albums-week48-2016.htm

Difference of 8k sales between albums abroad.

***The 60k figure for GW wasnt broken into sales/streams so applying Glory Day's 5% streaming gives us 57k UK sales so possibly 52k intl sales for GW.


One thing they are doing in European countries they have visited like Italy, France and Belgium is selling tour tickets. Even their promoter John Giddings (Isle of Wight) said in 2015:
"They've sold more tickets than they've sold albums so far in Europe, which is unheard of for this kind of artist."

Several of us have noted LM are acting more like a Rock act that tours and doesnt have huge radio play or charting rather than a typical Pop act. They just added another 10 shows to their domestic tour and already have 4 shows at the O2 11 months out.
Australia and Spain are not major music markets. You can have a gold album in Australia with sales of 35,000 and Spain with 20,000. Fifth Harmony's album went to #1 in Spain and hasn't been certified gold yet, so it shows how low sales are.

As for John Giddings, I would take anything he says lightly unless he has numbers to back up his claims. It's his job to give a positive spin. Has anybody independent commented on LM's impressive touring figures outside of UK and they are acting like a rock act?

I am surprised the new album has charted as low as #25 in the USA considering it was preceeded by LM's highest single. It's very stupid that their label and management are relying on a tour slot to reverse things.
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Old 02-12-2016, 19:31
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The last eight albums to top the chart reigned for only a week, but Little Mix break the streak, spending a second straight frame at the summit with their fourth album, Glory Days.

The first album by an X Factor act to spend more than a week at No.1 since One Direction's Midnight Memories in 2013, Glory Days sold a further 57,151 copies last week, including 2,723 from streams.


1 Clean Bandit feat. Sean Paul & Anne-Marie 82,445 40,051 42,394
2 Rae Sremmurd feat. Gucci Mane 60,860
3 The Weeknd feat. Daft Punk [Starboy] 51,184
4 James Arthur 44,866
5 Little Mix 42,769
6 Neiked feat. Dyo 40,055
7 Maroon 5 feat. Kendrick Lamar 39,622
8 Bruno Mars 36,660
9 The Weeknd feat. Daft Punk [I Feel It Coming] 35,810
10 The Chainsmokers feat. Halsey 35,350 (1,024,889 Streams: 701,695)


1 Little Mix 57,151 54,428 2,723
2 Michael Ball & Alfie Boe 55,022 (188,798)
3 Elvis Presley & The Royal Philharmonic Orchestra 44,446
4 Kate Bush 40,478
5 The Weeknd 35,967 20,113 15,854
6 Olly Murs 34,813
7 Andre Rieu & Johann Strauss 34,615
8 Bruno Mars 28,115
9 Michael Buble [Nobody But Me] 25,700
10 Bradley Walsh 23,646

11 Michael Buble [Christmas] 22,547
12 Robbie Williams 22,132
13 Busted 21,026
14 Emeli Sande 20,456
16 Pete Tong 17,277
21 Metallica 15,104
22 Susan Boyle 15,013
24 Prince 13,718
28 Rumer 10,590
30 Aled Jones 9,858
39 LM Get Weird
42 Military Wives Choirs 5,812

119 Rag'N'Bone Man 1,692
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Old 04-12-2016, 11:00
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I can see Glory Days continuing sell impressively leading up to Christmas. Possibly even getting over 100k in the week leading up to Christmas as I can see many parents buying the album for their kids.

I've not really followed the Little Mix discussion thread in the X Factor forum as its too cluttered to get to the point. Is there news on the second single? I'm guessing they will be performing on the X Factor final, but will that be one of the celebrity duets or the first live TV performance of the next single?

Maybe both?
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Old 04-12-2016, 11:51
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I can see Glory Days continuing sell impressively leading up to Christmas. Possibly even getting over 100k in the week leading up to Christmas as I can see many parents buying the album for their kids.

I've not really followed the Little Mix discussion thread in the X Factor forum as its too cluttered to get to the point. Is there news on the second single? I'm guessing they will be performing on the X Factor final, but will that be one of the celebrity duets or the first live TV performance of the next single?

Maybe both?
Actually the Little Mix discussion thread is far more interesting than most of the threads on this section.
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Old 04-12-2016, 21:48
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Is there news on the second single? I'm guessing they will be performing on the X Factor final, but will that be one of the celebrity duets or the first live TV performance of the next single?

Maybe both?
Here is the biggest non surprise of the year!

Little Mix ‏@LittleMix 45m
This year's been so amazing 😍🎉 No way we could end 2016 without giving you a new single 🙅 😉Just a #Touch of something new .. 💚 the girls x

https://twitter.com/LittleMix/status/805517536125022208

Its well timed for a MV on Friday and a Sunday XF Final performance (although they'll probably be hobbled dueting on the Saturday). It would be a nice touch for them to be guest stars on the same stage they won on exactly 5 years ago to the day. On Sunday.

Leigh and Jade were partying with Parris Goebel the choreographer for the Touch MV...I say she's here to rehearse a big spectacular debut with the girls and dancers.
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Old 04-12-2016, 21:59
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Australia and Spain are not major music markets. You can have a gold album in Australia with sales of 35,000 and Spain with 20,000.
According to IFPI, #6 Australia is one of the Top 10 Global music markets. As far as I know country certification levels are usually tied in to the country population so its not surprising its less. The UK has Gold album certification at 300k which is less than the 500k US (and the US lowered Gold from 1 million years ago).

Sidenote on Australia: SOTMX just hit Platinum there.

For myself I dont mix up charting and sales over the long haul, because often the two dont correlate. Fast high charters can plummet like a rock, and slow burners can rack up big sales over time. Secret Love Song peaked at #6 in the UK and is LM's second Platinum single.

As for John Giddings, I would take anything he says lightly unless he has numbers to back up his claims. It's his job to give a positive spin.
Its his job, its also his observation which any layman can see that they sold a heap more tour tickets than they did albums this year (Pollstar says 26,192 tickets in Europe). BTW he also won an industry award this year for being good at his job with the Isle of Wight festival.

It's very stupid that their label and management are relying on a tour slot to reverse things.
My thoughts too. I posted a long diatribe earlier.
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Old 04-12-2016, 23:25
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It would be a nice touch...
I see what you did there!!!

Touch is definitely the best choice for single #2. It stood out on my very first listen of the song which is always a good sign, similar to how Secret Love Song stood out when I heard that song for the first time.

As for X Factor, if Little Mix are going to be performing Touch then maybe Little Mix could be one of this years Christmas #1 contenders as I reckon the track will climb up Spotify fairly quickly once the radio/video airplay kicks in.

Even if not, Touch could still be in a strong position to possibly be the first #1 of 2017 once all the Christmas songs have plummeted down iTunes and Spotify.
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Old 05-12-2016, 01:10
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Supposedly the XF winner's single was penned by Ed Sheeran, wouldnt that be #1?
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Old 05-12-2016, 14:52
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The Stones still have lots of fans.

Mon. Update

1 Rolling Stones - Blue and Lonesome (65.6k)
2 Michael Ball & Alfie Boe - Together (27.1k)
3 Elvis Presley - The Wonder of You (23.5k)
4 Little Mix - Glory Days (22.3k)
5 Olly Murs - 24 Hrs (16k)

LM still selling 7k daily and its now on Asda's 3 for Ł20 offer.
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Old 05-12-2016, 19:39
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Supposedly the XF winner's single was penned by Ed Sheeran, wouldnt that be #1?
After SYCO's disastrous winner's single for Louisa last year, they would need to pull out all the stops to get the Christmas #1 this year.

Viewing figures are still hideous compared to most other shows broadcast on rival channels on both Saturday and Sunday nights. So I really don't know if this years winner really does stand a chance of getting to #1.

Little Mix went to #1 on just 4 days and 5 hours of sales but SOTME is a pop anthem and it just clicked from the word "go". An Ed Sheeran ballad may not be what people want to listen to in the run up to Christmas. However, I reckon if Saara won this years X Factor and her winner's single was produced in the style of a HI NRG disco row of pink tents, I bet it would sell more than a dreary ballad arrangement like Forever Youzzzzz last year. Christmas is party season, not depressing season. Why SYCO seem to struggle with this concept is truly baffling. :/

As for the midweeks, I think Little Mix will get #3 by the end of the week but I also suspect Rolling Stones are heavily frontloaded and will barely sell 30k for the rest of the week. I will be surprised if Rolling Stones sells more than the 96k Little Mix achieved a fortnight ago.
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Old 05-12-2016, 20:14
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I know, I'm hoping LM can retain that second fastest selling album bit on their resume.

All signs point to another midweek performance on Sunday, could they pull another surprise #1? Since its already out on the album maybe not, but there's plenty of casual listeners out there.

I think the Saara curiosity if she is in the last day of the Final may pull in more viewers and more audience for LM.
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Old 05-12-2016, 21:52
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SHOCKER

After months of nothing, Columbia set an impact date of Jan. 17 for SOTMX in the US. It wont be Touch after all.
http://clients.allaccess.com/mail/C/...lumbia196.html

Personally I'm relieved. I didnt think Touch would do well in the US and have always felt SOTMX had a sound the US was more familiar with, like Salute.
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Old 06-12-2016, 04:34
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So 2017 will be a serious attempt at the US? You don't think 'Touch' will be the follow up to SOTMX in the US as it will be here? The video for SOMTX looks so American anyway.

I think the other high impact song on the album is 'Power', would Columbia be prepared to go for that? I suppose it's what sounds like a radio hit is what they'll go for. And the album is full of potential hits. Oops will be a single both sides of the Atlantic, I suspect.

As I have said elsewhere there is a whole another (better) album if the tracks from Down and Dirty to Freak (deluxe version) had been used as the album.
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Old 06-12-2016, 07:21
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So 2017 will be a serious attempt at the US? You don't think 'Touch' will be the follow up to SOTMX in the US as it will be here? The video for SOMTX looks so American anyway.
I dont really care what music they follow up with as long as Columbia FOLLOWS UP which its never done before. Since LM are known at home for having a variety of songs, then let the US get to hear some of that versatility.
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Old 06-12-2016, 16:51
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Rolling Stones on track to break 100k. LM narrowing the gap with Elvis to 300.

1 Rolling Stones - Blue and Lonesome (75.3k) *
2 Michael Ball & Alfie Boe - Together (38.0k)
3 Elvis Presley - The Wonder of You (31.2k)
4 Little Mix - Glory Days (30.9k)
5 Olly Murs - 24 HRS (22.6k)


An associate of a Touch songwriter confirmed a performance this Sunday.

John Saunderson @Johnsaunderson1
Good luck to Little Mix and NHM's Patrick Patrikios new single 'Touch'. Being performed on X Factor final too. Well done son. Well Proud

https://twitter.com/Johnsaunderson1/...41240834813952

Per update accounts he works at Notting Hill Music.
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Old 07-12-2016, 15:41
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Little Mix ‏@LittleMix
This is gonna be soooooo EPIC! 🙊🙌 We’re performing #Touch and #Oops LIVE 📹 with @charlieputh THIS SUNDAY on @TheXFactor 💃 the girls x


Here come the next singles! I guess they have to maximize this tv slot because they'll be going off to the US end of Jan. Will they do 2 full songs since they're flying Puth over?
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Old 07-12-2016, 18:13
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Australia and Spain are not major music markets. You can have a gold album in Australia with sales of 35,000 and Spain with 20,000. Fifth Harmony's album went to #1 in Spain and hasn't been certified gold yet, so it shows how low sales are.

As for John Giddings, I would take anything he says lightly unless he has numbers to back up his claims. It's his job to give a positive spin. Has anybody independent commented on LM's impressive touring figures outside of UK and they are acting like a rock act?

I am surprised the new album has charted as low as #25 in the USA considering it was preceeded by LM's highest single. It's very stupid that their label and management are relying on a tour slot to reverse things.
@marcusdb, I think it is little pointless talking about Glory Days' album sales outside the UK and Australia at the moment. The album has dropped off the top 100 charts in France, Germany, Japan and the USA after one week. Links if anybody is interested:

http://www.snepmusique.com/tops-sema...?ye=2016&we=48
https://www.offiziellecharts.de/album-details-316872
http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ja/w/2016-12-12/
https://www.ukmix.org/forums/viewtop...14d2912f6489ef

Perhaps the album will re-enter after Touch has been released.
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Old 07-12-2016, 19:22
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Little Mix ‏@LittleMix
This is gonna be soooooo EPIC! 🙊🙌 We’re performing #Touch and #Oops LIVE 📹 with @charlieputh THIS SUNDAY on @TheXFactor 💃 the girls x


Here come the next singles! I guess they have to maximize this tv slot because they'll be going off to the US end of Jan. Will they do 2 full songs since they're flying Puth over?
Definitely the best two tracks on Glory Days to push as singles.

The team behind Little Mix continue to get it spot on. Makes me wonder whether we'll see Touch and Oops both doing well in the charts at the same time, kinda like how Justin Bieber had Sorry and Love Yourself both riding high around the same time.
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Old 07-12-2016, 19:34
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The team in the UK. Columbia is completely opposite! Btw SOTMX got 5 adds on Us radio yesterday a month ahead of impact. Maybe the song just got good responses during trials?
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Old 07-12-2016, 23:12
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Wed. update

1 Rolling Stones - Blue and Lonesome (87,069) *
2 Michael Ball & Alfie Boe - Together (48,831)
3 Little Mix - Glory Days (39,568)
4 Elvis Presley - The Wonder of You (38,370)
5 Olly Murs - 24 HRS (28,652)

The album sold 8.5k yesterday, so its actually increasing week to week. The Stones sold 12k.
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Old 07-12-2016, 23:29
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So 2017 will be a serious attempt at the US? You don't think 'Touch' will be the follow up to SOTMX in the US as it will be here? The video for SOMTX looks so American anyway.

I think the other high impact song on the album is 'Power', would Columbia be prepared to go for that? I suppose it's what sounds like a radio hit is what they'll go for. And the album is full of potential hits. Oops will be a single both sides of the Atlantic, I suspect.

As I have said elsewhere there is a whole another (better) album if the tracks from Down and Dirty to Freak (deluxe version) had been used as the album.
Personally, I am baffled by the continued practice of releasing regional singles. Surely in today's internet age all singles released by an artist ought to be de facto worldwide?
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Old 07-12-2016, 23:32
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SHOCKER

After months of nothing, Columbia set an impact date of Jan. 17 for SOTMX in the US. It wont be Touch after all.
http://clients.allaccess.com/mail/C/...lumbia196.html

Personally I'm relieved. I didnt think Touch would do well in the US and have always felt SOTMX had a sound the US was more familiar with, like Salute.
The cynical side of me thinks that Columbia probably don't think SOTMX's 'Zayn shade' appeal would be a bad thing, especially with the now added media attention that Gigi's celebrity has brought to the table.
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Old 07-12-2016, 23:52
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Wed. update

1 Rolling Stones - Blue and Lonesome (87,069) *
2 Michael Ball & Alfie Boe - Together (48,831)
3 Little Mix - Glory Days (39,568)
4 Elvis Presley - The Wonder of You (38,370)
5 Olly Murs - 24 HRS (28,652)

The album sold 8.5k yesterday, so its actually increasing week to week. The Stones sold 12k.
Looks like I underestimated Rolling Stones album. I really thought it was going to be heavily frontloaded and tail off sharply towards the latter end of this sales tracking week.
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Old 08-12-2016, 00:45
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The cynical side of me thinks that Columbia probably don't think SOTMX's 'Zayn shade' appeal would be a bad thing, especially with the now added media attention that Gigi's celebrity has brought to the table.

Personally, I am baffled by the continued practice of releasing regional singles. Surely in today's internet age all singles released by an artist ought to be de facto worldwide?
Apparently they'd be correct since that fake fan edit of Perrie waving to Mr. Z has sent a whole bunch of people over to the Capital JBB performance video and the official one. Can we say that the Taylor/Katy feud didnt fuel some views of Bad Blood though? Its just one of those things I suppose. In this case although curiosity may be a referral there is enough positive response to the song itself that its not the only thing.

I dont think, or at least the runup didnt suggest a regional single for the US, but I think the label is running with the strong metrics it got early. Plus I assume they are privy to some response info that we arent and its positive enough to go with this song first. If it just gets even a little ahead of previous efforts its still progress and could be a better launch for a follow up, if they finally execute this time. I'm just worried they're only depending on the tour window period.

At the time I questioned why it was placed on Hot Tracks the week before the album when it could have generated some chart points, but in my fantasy maybe the label was experimenting with how the song would respond to some stimulus like that. They didnt even have it on the front page and it shot up 30 places. Their team has never tried the discount tactic but they tested that in Germany and it shot the song up for a while too.
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Old 08-12-2016, 01:22
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United World Chart http://www.mediatraffic.de/albums-week49-2016.htm

7. Little Mix - Glory Days
Syco Music - 76.000 / 211.000

So from somewhere the album got 22k sales outside of homebase.

Btw my album just arrived today. It only took 19 days.
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