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I can't believe he isn't ashamed of his behaviour
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willywonker
14-08-2016
Originally Posted by Flo71:
“Aubrey was disgusting to spit in his food - just because I dislike Bear's behaviour doesn't mean I agree with how they have responded to it.

BB should take it out of their hands and remove him.”

And do you know what happened to the other HMs who threatened to leave?

Its a genuine question btw I saw the in the DR and then nothing? What did BB say to keep them in there.
Flo71
14-08-2016
Originally Posted by willywonker:
“And do you know what happened to the other HMs who threatened to leave?

Its a genuine question btw I saw the in the DR and then nothing? What did BB say to keep them in there.”

No idea, don't think anyone knows what was said to them. I assume some sort of pep talk to placate them.
willywonker
14-08-2016
Originally Posted by Flo71:
“No idea, don't think anyone knows what was said to them. I assume some sort of pep talk to placate them.”

I found that really strange and wondered If BB offered them more money to stay or said something about Bear doing it on purpose and to play along?
Flo71
14-08-2016
Originally Posted by willywonker:
“I found that really strange and wondered If BB offered them more money to stay or said something about Bear doing it on purpose and to play along?”

They really glossed over it, they obviously didn't promise to make Bear behave, lol.

If I wasn't so cynical about the producers interferring I'd say they just talked them into staying but they may very well have been promised more money or as you say told to carry on a charade with Bear.

Can't understand why what was said to them wasn't show unless it was something underhand.
willywonker
14-08-2016
Originally Posted by Flo71:
“They really glossed over it, they obviously didn't promise to make Bear behave, lol.

If I wasn't so cynical about the producers interferring I'd say they just talked them into staying but they may very well have been promised more money or as you say told to carry on a charade with Bear.

Can't understand why what was said to them wasn't show unless it was something underhand.”

More to it than meets the eye, that's for sure.
tigerlily96
14-08-2016
Originally Posted by Eve Elle:
“Maybe he's a sociopath? (1 in 10 people are)”

Said it from the start
MissDeeBlue
14-08-2016
Roger Moore acted in that very studio. It didn't mean he was James bond.

It's a role bear is playing. The bond villain. Sadly the rest of the 'cast' have brought reality onto the ,'set'
Flo71
14-08-2016
Originally Posted by MissDeeBlue:
“Roger Moore acted in that very studio. It didn't mean he was James bond. It's a role bear is playing. Sadly the rest of the 'cast' have brought reality onto the ,'set'”

Do you mean only Bear is playing a part?

That would be completely unfair on the others surely. BB would come out of this very shoddily if it came out that they were instructing Bear to behave as he is towards Rene and others.
MissDeeBlue
14-08-2016
Originally Posted by Flo71:
“Do you mean only Bear is playing a part?

That would be completely unfair on the others surely. BB would come out of this very shoddily if it came out that they were instructing Bear to behave as he is towards Rene and others.”

Kind of. But no way under BB instructions. Hes created this character himself
chloeb
14-08-2016
Sadly when he's horrible that's his NORMAL persona no way could you keep that up 24/7 unless it was his natural state ...when he's nice that's when he's ACTING. ...tragic
Aimee
14-08-2016
Originally Posted by Eve Elle:
“Maybe he's a sociopath? (1 in 10 people are)”

Take a look and make up your own mind folks!

I know what I think.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Psychopath_Test

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy.

But I'm not a doctor.
Flo71
14-08-2016
Originally Posted by MissDeeBlue:
“Kind of. But no way under BB instructions. Hes created this character himself”

Then he isn't acting in the same way Roger Moore did when he played Bond.
tigerlily96
14-08-2016
Originally Posted by Aimee:
“Take a look and make up your own mind folks!

I know what I think.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Psychopath_Test

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy.

But I'm not a doctor.”

You are wasting your time I and others tried to say this from the start but you just get comments like he's an attention seeker, spoilt brat, nasty piece of work.
Reiver97
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by sj3000:
“Sociopath, psychopath? One of the two? Both? He's a real nasty piece of work.”

Pretty much bang-on a textbook sociopath if this definition of the two is anything to go by...

Quote:
“ “Sociopath vs. Psychopath: What’s the difference?

'Cold-Hearted Psychopath, Hot-Headed Sociopath'

It’s not easy to spot a psychopath. They can be intelligent, charming, and good at mimicking emotions. They may pretend to be interested in you, but in reality, they probably don’t care.

“They’re skilled actors whose sole mission is to manipulate people for personal gain,” Tompkins says.

Sociopaths are less able to play along. They make it plain that they’re not interested in anyone but themselves. They often blame others and have excuses for their behavior.

Some experts see sociopaths as “hot-headed.” They act without thinking how others will be affected.


Psychopaths are more “cold-hearted” and calculating. They carefully plot their moves, and use aggression in a planned-out way to get what they want. If they’re after more money or status in the office, for example, they’ll make a plan to take out any barriers that stand in the way, even if it’s another person’s job or reputation.”

Psychopaths have no empathy. Sociopaths have very limited ability to feel empathy. Bear shows occasional flashes of empathy, just about, so I reckon he fits the bill of a sociopafh.
B*witched
15-08-2016
I thought sociopath as well. It's not just his goading the others, it's also the way he constantly has to draw attention to himself with the mask and the face painting he has to be in the spotlight all the time.

It makes me feel sick to watch him now.
confuddled
15-08-2016
i think bear in an oppressed homosexual, i don't just mean the bum fingering stuff but i believe that given the chance he would be fully into guys. i think the image he has carved for himself and the macho ''lads'' background he's from means that he is not totally honest to who he feels he is, hence many of his behaviours. many of his mannerisms and much of his intonation is expressed in a way that you see many fem gays being.
Xuri
15-08-2016
I think it's pretty obvious that the guy isn't capable of feeling shame.
ahoyy
15-08-2016
It's a show. It's a game. It's not real. Don't let it upset you. Don't get too invested in it. Bear to win.
Scots rool
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by Flo71:
“I understand he is young and being egged on by his friends but surely there are moments when he reflects on the day just gone and has regrets.”


Young! He's 26 FGS, & all the man he's ever likely to be!
Swiftish
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by willywonker:
“And do you know what happened to the other HMs who threatened to leave?

Its a genuine question btw I saw the in the DR and then nothing? What did BB say to keep them in there.”

I did think this at the time but then let it go out of my head again so thanks for pointing it out - I totally agree there was something shonky about all that because they were adamant that they were done with the show, and then..........nothing, and they were all prepared to give it another go. Especially surprising with Ricky and James who seemed prepared to forgo the fee to get out that day.
marg89
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by Supercalifragil:
“He never will be ashamed. I am sure he thinks he's being very clever, especially when he feels validated by two eviction saves. (I will never understand the entertainment factor in that excrement of a person but hey ho, each to their own).”

I agree, and if he stays again I dread to think what he will come up with, he really thinks that the public enjoy what he does.
Flo71
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by Scots rool:
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Young! He's 26 FGS, & all the man he's ever likely to be!”

Young enough still to be doing things and not thinking them through, but even so to see how upset others are becoming because of his relentless behaviour you would think that it would give cause to stop and rethink.
Ms Ann Thrope
15-08-2016
Sociopaths are usually very good at passing for normal, they spend their lives studying human behaviour and learning how to fit in and charm and manipulate other people into doing their bidding.

I see no charm whatsoever in Bear's behaviour, quite the opposite. He goes out of his way to goad and upset people. Sociopaths tend to be covert operators who will make you think they are your best friend before stabbing you in the back.

People often like to say there's no such thing as ADHD, and believe it's only something that happens in children, but in my opinion, Bear is showing us what ADHD looks like in an adult. I noticed someone on here yesterday saying that mummy had forgotten to pack his Ritalin, and that's about it for me.

Put him back on the meds, BB, for all our sakes.

http://www.helpguide.org/articles/ad...t-disorder.htm
BumbleSquat
15-08-2016
Usually I don't feel that bad for the celebs because they go in, go through some conflict and do all the things BB throws at them as they expect, and go home with a big fat cheque. But this guy has consumed their entire experience to the point that they look drained constantly. It's even a chore for me to watch at this point. I don't enjoy looking at someone provoke and antagonize others for their own pathetic amusement. That kind of behaviour would not be tolerated in any walk of life so it why is it happening on Big Brother? Pulling Bear into the DR to give him yet another warning does not work. He can't even give enough shits or give a sincere apology when it happens.

A genuine and interesting moment occurs between Aubrey and James and of course Bear has to run towards it screaming and hollering. Housemates watch their nominations back and of course Bear has to drown the noise out by screaming and jumping around. Even Marnie and Lewis looked irritated by him and wanted him to shut the f*** up! The only time he shut his beak is when his own nominations were on-screen. UGH!

What's also frustrating is seeing some people actually SUPPORT him! ''BB would be boring without him'' are comments I read every night on social media. Which is absolutely ridiculous. There WOULD be a show without him. 16 years and countless series in - we know there would be the usual drama and conflict happening. This isn't our first rodeo folks! He's just overpowered this series where everyone else is only seen reacting to his crappy behaviour. A Bear win would be worst outcome. It will set a precedent.
Scarlett Berry
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by ahoyy:
“It's a show. It's a game. It's not real. Don't let it upset you. Don't get too invested in it. Bear to win.”

Very real for the unfortunate people who have to co exist in such a small space.

It does upset me as a viewer to see the goading and tormenting of people to the point of tears and frustration, by a relentless foul fool.

But the again, I consider myself, even as a viewer to have empathy and sympathy, you know feelings that most if not all normal people have.
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