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I can't believe he isn't ashamed of his behaviour
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lynzee
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by willywonker:
“That isn't actually answering my question is it.

btw
Aubrey spat in his food and drink, but that was ok.
Heavy D threatened him with violence twice, but that was ok”

He obviously did not mind her spitting in his food, did he? Did you miss him asking her to spit directly into his mouth. He admitted he has had worse in his mouth so what is everyone going on about? He didn't mind so why do you?????
lynzee
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by ahoyy:
“It's a show. It's a game. It's not real. Don't let it upset you. Don't get too invested in it. Bear to win.”

I am not too invested in it and I doubt others are either, it is just a pity that he has completely ruined CBB for many of us die hard BB fans.
Scarlett Berry
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by lynzee:
“I am not too invested in it and I doubt others are either, it is just a pity that he has completely ruined CBB for many of us die hard BB fans.”


This. He has been hideous and those that condone his goading and tormenting of the other hm's....well at a risk of a ban.. I'll leave it there.
orangeballoon
15-08-2016
bear was told by his agent "make sure you get in every angle, make sure you end every conversation, make sure you shout and jump infront of a camera when nothing is going on"

and then you will make the 40 minutes of tv that makes the highlights show each day.

he is acting like an idiot because it will make him rich. that is the plan.
Xuri
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by orangeballoon:
“bear was told by his agent "make sure you get in every angle, make sure you end every conversation, make sure you shout and jump infront of a camera when nothing is going on"

and then you will make the 40 minutes of tv that makes the highlights show each day.

he is acting like an idiot because it will make him rich. that is the plan.”

I don't think he's acting.

You fanboys/girls are making out like he's some sort of televisual genius. He clearly isn't.
wotnot
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by Flo71:
“I get that Bear is acting up for the cameras but I just can't get my head round that he isn't ashamed of some of the things he has said and done.”

Does anyone actually really expect him to be ashamed? I have to say that I can't see it as just acting up for the cameras because if that was the case he would not push things as far as he does so relentlessly. I think he must have a personality disorder of some kind because I genuinely don't think he sees anything wrong in pushing people to their limits.
arethaire
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by patricia50:
“He's not ashamed. He physiologically hounds people and is very calculated about it. People moan about the likes of Sam and Ricky and Katy being boring but you can see they are mentally just drained and worn down by him. In particular Sam and Ricky just seem so down and unable to be themselves it's sad. He has ruined the experience for most of them and I have never seen such a self centred individual in my life. I don't think there is even the slightest regret by him for anything he's done but I am finding it very uncomfortable to watch now and see the way he has affected people's moods to the point they are just trying to get through each day without just walking out. I really think he has some sort of personality disorder”

Patricia you have hit the nail on the head there!!! Well said .....
orangeballoon
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by Xuri:
“I don't think he's acting.

You fanboys/girls are making out like he's some sort of televisual genius. He clearly isn't.”

i know a roofer just like him... a few years older...
it's no genius act. its obnoxious juvenile but typical aggressive builder pub banter (the sort where you push each other about, dare, things etc in a group lout style) never turned off because he knows BB wont do anything , the others cant hit him and he gets tv time

so with a naturally low stigma level as a normative value he doesn't care what he looks like and so is in everyones face for the sake of it.

acting ? no. deliberate "no knock" attitude... easily... although most roofers like that end up homeless drunks
Eve Elle
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by B*witched:
“I thought sociopath as well. It's not just his goading the others, it's also the way he constantly has to draw attention to himself with the mask and the face painting he has to be in the spotlight all the time.

It makes me feel sick to watch him now.”

It's the lack of, or limited empathy for others that makes him seem like he's somewhere on the the sociopathic scales. Guilt, conscience, remorse are feelings he doesn't seem to experience much, if at all. Being around someone like that 24/7 and being completely helpless to do anything about it must be mentally exhausting.
Scarlett Berry
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by orangeballoon:
“bear was told by his agent "make sure you get in every angle, make sure you end every conversation, make sure you shout and jump infront of a camera when nothing is going on"

and then you will make the 40 minutes of tv that makes the highlights show each day.

he is acting like an idiot because it will make him rich. that is the plan
.”

On what authority do you speak, what insider knowledge do you have

Back up your statement with facts please. Thank You
Scarlett Berry
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by Eve Elle:
“It's the lack of, or limited empathy for others that makes him seem like he's somewhere on the the sociopathic scales. Guilt, conscience, remorse are feelings he doesn't seem to experience much, if at all. Being around someone like that 24/7 and being completely helpless to do anything about it must be mentally exhausting.”

I think many of us have worked with a colleauge that was an absolute ar*e. One that made David Brent look sophisticated, however we haven't had to share a small enclosed space with him/her. and moreoever, I have never ever met anyone as cold and calculating as Stephen Bear.

The stain on the hm's faces is visible and their frustration , palpable. I want him out asap.

It must be bad when the wanabee Hugh Grant Bore is loosing his temper with him.
willywonker
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by Swiftish:
“I did think this at the time but then let it go out of my head again so thanks for pointing it out - I totally agree there was something shonky about all that because they were adamant that they were done with the show, and then..........nothing, and they were all prepared to give it another go. Especially surprising with Ricky and James who seemed prepared to forgo the fee to get out that day.”

Agreed, I definitly think something over and above a calming chat was used to quell the uprising so to speak, would love to know what BB did to sort it out.
willywonker
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by lynzee:
“He obviously did not mind her spitting in his food, did he? Did you miss him asking her to spit directly into his mouth. He admitted he has had worse in his mouth so what is everyone going on about? He didn't mind so why do you?????”

My point was If Bear got removed because of throwing the glass, Aubrey and Heavy D should have been removed for the things they did.

I did miss Bear asking Aubrey to spit in his mouth, personally I think that is disgusting.

Wether Bear minded not is immaterial, its was for a me enough for her to be removed from the house..
Purple Mango
15-08-2016
I don't understand how anyone can to defend his behaviour - for the sake of tv entertainment or not!

He was a c*** in his VT.

a c*** during his entrance

is a c*** in the house

And will remain a c*** when he leaves.


If we are to reward this type of bulls*** then ASBO's ought to be replaced with winning scratch cards
Rogana Josh
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by patricia50:
“He's not ashamed. He physiologically hounds people and is very calculated about it. People moan about the likes of Sam and Ricky and Katy being boring but you can see they are mentally just drained and worn down by him. In particular Sam and Ricky just seem so down and unable to be themselves it's sad. He has ruined the experience for most of them and I have never seen such a self centred individual in my life. I don't think there is even the slightest regret by him for anything he's done but I am finding it very uncomfortable to watch now and see the way he has affected people's moods to the point they are just trying to get through each day without just walking out. I really think he has some sort of personality disorder”

Could he possibly be Psychotic only IMHO
Mindbear
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by patricia50:
“He's not ashamed. He physiologically hounds people and is very calculated about it. People moan about the likes of Sam and Ricky and Katy being boring but you can see they are mentally just drained and worn down by him. In particular Sam and Ricky just seem so down and unable to be themselves it's sad. He has ruined the experience for most of them and I have never seen such a self centred individual in my life. I don't think there is even the slightest regret by him for anything he's done but I am finding it very uncomfortable to watch now and see the way he has affected people's moods to the point they are just trying to get through each day without just walking out. I really think he has some sort of personality disorder”

He confuses me, he seems very transparent at times to feeling 'something', and people with narcissistic personality disorder can't understand others feelings, but then again, he gets upset in relation to HIMSELF and not others, from what I can tell....but it feels like there is another layer. Sociopathic, yes, but....there's something else. It's driving me mad trying to work him out. He's movie level of awful.

I want to see Sam, I want to see Ricky, I want to see other levels of Renee other than anger and sadness, I want to see Katie (I always disliked her but my friends are mates with her and said I should give her a chance), I want to understand people and enjoy their interactions. I can't bear seeing a house of people beaten down by this lawless creature. I get his appeal to people, but surely we can't applaud this level of social abuse. it's not okay.
Elphinstone
15-08-2016
He had the same vile character on Ex On The Beach whose soul aim was to shaft all the other inmates. He truly loves himself to infinity and beyond puts himself first every time....if he were on Titanic he would steal a dress off a child to escape on a life raft he is so vile.
appledash
15-08-2016
How the **** did this **** go from being a **** roofer to **** tv personality ? Does he have the same agent as gino dcampo ? You know burgle paul Youngs house then becomes TV chef !! Sorry A **** cook
fredster
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by patricia50:
“He's not ashamed. He physiologically hounds people and is very calculated about it. People moan about the likes of Sam and Ricky and Katy being boring but you can see they are mentally just drained and worn down by him. In particular Sam and Ricky just seem so down and unable to be themselves it's sad. He has ruined the experience for most of them and I have never seen such a self centred individual in my life. I don't think there is even the slightest regret by him for anything he's done but I am finding it very uncomfortable to watch now and see the way he has affected people's moods to the point they are just trying to get through each day without just walking out. I really think he has some sort of personality disorder”

I agree with your last line. It's interesting that he covers up parts of his face when on live TV. He is allowed to wear a mask but, Lewis has to take off his sun glasses. Double standards in that house. Bear gets away with murder, just like John James did.why are the producers letting him rule them and never get punished for his anti social behaviour?
Donna65
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by Scarlett Berry:
“Very real for the unfortunate people who have to co exist in such a small space.

It does upset me as a viewer to see the goading and tormenting of people to the point of tears and frustration, by a relentless foul fool.

But the again, I consider myself, even as a viewer to have empathy and sympathy, you know feelings that most if not all normal people have.”

Well said Scarlett. The lack of empathy for someone you have reduced to tears is truly disturbing in my eyes.
Rogana Josh
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by lynzee:
“I am not too invested in it and I doubt others are either, it is just a pity that he has completely ruined CBB for many of us die hard BB fans.”

I loved BB and have watched it for years, sadly there's no point in me watching it as its' a shadow of its' former self now. All it has now become is a show full of sensationalism and voyeurism, in fact its' just become another porn channel.
Rogana Josh
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by Scarlett Berry:
“Very real for the unfortunate people who have to co exist in such a small space.

It does upset me as a viewer to see the goading and tormenting of people to the point of tears and frustration, by a relentless foul fool.

But the again, I consider myself, even as a viewer to have empathy and sympathy, you know feelings that most if not all normal people have.”

IMHO That is bullying and CBB should be ashamed to allow it, he should be evicted.
Virgil Tracy
15-08-2016
Renee's good at turning on the tears after she's been abusive and aggressive to other HMs , she not only controls half the dolts in there but also BB it would appear .

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orangeballoon
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by Scarlett Berry:
“On what authority do you speak, what insider knowledge do you have

Back up your statement with facts please. Thank You”

i cite the behaviour of nearly all reality tv sourced people after they leave the house and "turn off" the act.
foonk
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by Purple Mango:
“I don't understand how anyone can to defend his behaviour - for the sake of tv entertainment or not!

He was a c*** in his VT.

a c*** during his entrance

is a c*** in the house

And will remain a c*** when he leaves.


If we are to reward this type of bulls*** then ASBO's ought to be replaced with winning scratch cards”

Correct, he is horribly behaved.

I had a dream last night where a new HM came in.

The dream ended with the new HM hurling Bear from the top of a high tower
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