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fleabee
15-08-2016
I've taped the last 3 nights in favour of watching the Olympics. Just deleted them without watching. Reading the forums fills me in on the basics....that nothing is different tonight, from last night and the night before. Must be the most dull series. Not dull for nothing happening, but dull for more of the same
postit
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by PercyBysshe:
“I'm relishing every moment of it. It's great entertainment.”

Aw You've not had much of a life, have you?
marshey
15-08-2016
It would be good if the producers actually seek out proper celebrities with interesting personalities for the next series. They have plenty of time to do so. Fed up of each evening being dominated by Americans who dont really understand the concept of the programme and thugs/tarts off 'so-called' reality TV. Has become unwatchable and certainly wouldnt waste my £'s participating in voting any more
skywalker70
15-08-2016
I'm really struggling now, how ironic that the original reality show is being killed by reality show contestants... Who would have thought professional reality could be so dull
foonk
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by hellsTinkerbell:
“You're probably right zarla and that's the original point of bb....social conditioning.
The social conditioning is I think now aimed at the viewer.”

Did you mean aimed at the viewer or Sewer ?!
lynzee
16-08-2016
Originally Posted by BlueStreak:
“Can't help you I'm afraid. I can't quite fathom out why I'm still watching to be honest with you.

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Same here.
nattoyaki
16-08-2016
Originally Posted by jeanoj:
“Just switch off - I have. The Olympics is much more exciting and shows a more positive side of young people who actually do have talent.”

Yep, it really is as easy as that these days! You don't even really need the Olympics (I'm not watching that either) but I'm sure it helps a lot for some, and is very timely

Originally Posted by Zarla:
“I bet most of you will be back after Christmas, hoping that Ch5 has 'learnt its lesson', when in fact they're delighted with the audience figures and are probably lining up more reality stars as we speak.”

I won't!

Originally Posted by hellsTinkerbell:
“You're probably right zarla and that's the original point of bb....social conditioning.
The social conditioning is I think now aimed at the viewer.”

I started with BB5 and imho it's always worked both ways and by design ('life imitating art', and vice versa in the mirror). It's just so bloody obvious now - they're really pushing it to see just how far they can go imo.
johnan
16-08-2016
Olympics for me too.

I needed something to kick me out of the "Big Brother controlling Bear to misbehave" show and the Olympics gave me the chance to see real people of character and skill, instead of these losers...yes, Rylan, you are also one of the latter.

Get off our screens and take your "producers" with you.
Darcyprincess
16-08-2016
[QUeOTE=fleabee;83604418]I've taped the last 3 nights in favour of watching the Olympics. Just deleted them without watching. Reading the forums fills me in on the basics....that nothing is different tonight, from last night and the night before. Must be the most dull series. Not dull for nothing happening, but dull for more of the same[/quote]

This about sums it up, so bloody boring now!
An Thropologist
16-08-2016
Originally Posted by Bunions:
“We all should really and I have at times - some series (BB and CBB) I haven't watched a single second of.

By watching, we're kind of endorsing the horror show and helping the ratings ”

Don't worry no-one knows you are watching unless you are on the BARB panel (and even if you were you could lie - they only know what you put on the forms)
nattoyaki
16-08-2016
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“Don't worry no-one knows you are watching unless you are on the BARB panel (and even if you were you could lie - they only know what you put on the forms) ”

I thought they had monitor machines connected to their TVs?

Anyway, I'd be very interested to hear more about how BARB viewers are chosen with the supposedly very high viewer numbers this almost universally hated (on here, from what I've read, with seemingly record numbers of long-term fans switching off) series has supposedly got.
amelie74
16-08-2016
Like many others I'm watching the Olympics. I don't even record the HLs any more - there's no need it's just bear behaving badly every night. I just come here for news and record eviction shows and LF to ffwd through later.
Rogana Josh
16-08-2016
Originally Posted by skywalker70:
“I'm really struggling now, how ironic that the original reality show is being killed by reality show contestants... Who would have thought professional reality could be so dull ”

Same old repertoire by Bear night after night, obviously someone at CBB thinks this is amusing, but its' just a bore.
An Thropologist
16-08-2016
Originally Posted by nattoyaki:
“I thought they had monitor machines connected to their TVs?

Anyway, I'd be very interested to hear more about how BARB viewers are chosen with the supposedly very high viewer numbers this almost universally hated (on here, from what I've read, with seemingly record numbers of long-term fans switching off) series has supposedly got.”

Oh right. They may do now. That would be a welcome bit of tech I am sure. I was a BARB panelist from 1999 to 2001 and we had to complete a booklet thing. I was quite glad when I moved and they didn't want me in the new town/county I moved to. It was a bit of a bind to be honest.

I was invited. I happened to be home one day when someone came knocking at the door doing some market research. I had nothing better to do so I invited the woman in and answered her questions. It so happened a number of them, although not all by any means, were about TV. This was when multi channel TV was still quite new. About 4 months after doing the survey and completely out of the blue I was invited to become a BARB panaelist. But then when I moved they said they already had enough people in the area I was moving to. The panel is composed to be representative of the country I suppose.

Lucky timing really because I don't admit publically to watching BB!
nattoyaki
16-08-2016
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“Oh right. They may do now. That wouldf be a welcome bit of tech I am sure. I was a BARB panelist from 1999 to 2001 and we had to complete a booklet thing. I was quite glad when I moved and they didn't want me in the new town/county I moved to. It was a bit of a bind to be honest.

I was invited. I happened to be home one day when someone came knocking at the door doing some market research. I had nothing better to do so Iinvited the woman in and answered her questions. It so happened a number of them, although not all by any means, were about TV. This was when multi channel TV was still quite new. About 4 months after doing the survey and completely out of the blue I was invited to become a BARB panaelist. BUt then when I moved they said they already had enough people in the area I was moving to. The panel is composed to be representative of the counrty I suppose.”

Very interesting info, thanks An Throp! I've always wondered and had heard they had monitors sometime after moving back to the country in 2004. I think it was a year or two later flat screens started to become (relatively) affordable so tech was moving on then, perhaps it was around that time.

Still, call me cynical, but I wonder if your viewing habits were not what they wanted so they kicked you off when you moved area, or they want a certain demographic...

Basically, how on earth is this shower getting the viewing figures it supposedly is, particularly when so many online are saying they've either turned off completely or have moved over to the Olympics?
An Thropologist
16-08-2016
Originally Posted by nattoyaki:
“Very interesting info, thanks An Throp! I've always wondered and had heard they had monitors sometime after moving back to the country in 2004. I think it was a year or two later flat screens started to become (relatively) affordable so tech was moving on then, perhaps it was around that time.

Still, call me cynical, but I wonder if your viewing habits were not what they wanted so they kicked you off when you moved area, or they want a certain demographic...

Basically, how on earth is this shower getting the viewing figures it supposedly is, particularly when so many online are saying they've either turned off completely or have moved over to the Olympics? ”

No I don't think so. I was truthful about my viewing habits, which is why it was lucky BB hadn't been invented, because it would have been a dilemma! But I am sure they wanted an accurate view. The figures were compiled by a really respected organisation and my name came up initially having completed a survey for a very respectable market research company ( MORI or similar).

But also the driver behind the 'ratings' is the advertisers. These are big players with deep pockets - Unilever, Proctor and Gamble, Reckitt Colman etc. They make their advertising spend decisions based on ratings. If they had anything less thean complete confidence abotu the ratings it would be made very clear.
Xuri
16-08-2016
Originally Posted by Zarla:
“I bet most of you will be back after Christmas, hoping that Ch5 has 'learnt its lesson', when in fact they're delighted with the audience figures and are probably lining up more reality stars as we speak.”

Um, yeah.

I always do that. I give it a week, if I'm not interested then I switch off and wait for the next season.

I've seen you say this in a few threads as though you think it means something. BB has new people in it each time. Therefore it's different each time. People don't have to like or watch every single season.
nattoyaki
16-08-2016
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“No I don't think so. I was truthful about my viewing habits, which is why it was lucky BB hadn't been invented, because it would have been a dilemma! But I am sure they wanted an accurate view. The figures were compiled by a really respected organisation and my name came up initially having completed a survey for a very respectable market research company ( MORI or similar).

But also the driver behind the 'ratings' is the advertisers. These are big players with deep pockets - Unilever, Proctor and Gamble, Reckitt Colman etc. They make their advertising spend decisions based on ratings. If they had anything less thean complete confidence abotu the ratings it would be made very clear.”

Thanks again! The thing is, that was then, things have moved on A LOT since in terms of media manipulation. And the' to your face' folk of these organisations are often lovely. The guy who comes round to chat about your broadband/TV box may be a great chap but I bet the guy who owns the company and is a billionaire is a right **** (The same is true of many charities alas The volunteers and on the ground staff often work their arses off helping people, yet there is some prick at the top being paid quarter of a mill to move some money and objective tick boxes on a TV screen in a plush office once or twice a day and is otherwise off playing golf and waiting for a knighthood).

Again, call me cynical, but I somewhat doubt we get the same, true viewing figures as the real movers and shakers behind the scenes...certainly the reported figures for this CBB have done nothing to shake that nagging suspicion! BB could just be a way to try to hook a certain type of viewer (i.e. formerly, me!) in to watch a trashy channel I otherwise never would have (CH5) and hope we watch the utter carp they sometimes put in between (never, ever have).

I.e. the equivalent of a supermarket loss leader.
An Thropologist
16-08-2016
Originally Posted by nattoyaki:
“Thanks again! The thing is, that was then, things have moved on A LOT since in terms of media manipulation. And the front figures of these organisations are often lovely. The guy who comes round to chat about your broadband/TV box may be lovely but I bet the guy who owns the company and is a billionaire is a right **** (The same is true of many charities alas ).

Again, call me cynical, but I somewhat doubt we get the same, true viewing figures as the real movers and shakers behind the scenes...certianly the reported figures for this CBB have done nothing to shake that nagging suspicion! BB could just be a way to try to hook a certain type of viewer (i.e. formerly, me!) in to watch a trashy channel I otherwise never would have (CH5) and hope we watch the utter carp they sometimes put in between (never, ever have).

I.e. the equivalent of a supermarket loss leader.”

Well you are possibly right. Back in 1999 we thought 'my word is my bond' was guarantee of the integrity of banking ... and so much more. So much has changed including TV and certainly advertising.
nattoyaki
16-08-2016
Sorry edited my post to fix some typos , and rage about corrupt charity bosses a bit, now that does get me upset

Yep Anthro, I don't trust a word of it now - lying, cheating scumbags the lot of them, from politicians down to our TV presenters. The worst of it (including BB) seems designed to make everyone upset, angered, negativeetc most of the time. I'm just lucky I think I don't watch TV (BB used to be one of five or six things I'd watch a year, but not any more ).

Night all! xxx
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