I cant believe Bear is allowed to get away with constantly baiting the H/M's which I believe is against the House Rules. I thought I would do a rough count of tonight's episode and it was on at lest 16 different occasions he baited the other h/m's and that is what was shown which is a disgrace and how BB can justify allowing that is pathetic.
Bear Baites The H/M'S All Day Every Day
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As BB reminded him, not warned mind, reminded him that baiting HMs is against the rules...He doesn't care ....
Why is baiting housemates against the rules? This is something that should be sorted out within the house, not by Big Brother. Telling Boom and Bear to clean the house up was ridiculous, big brother should step in for genuine rule breaking not for when two housemates are on the wind up being *****.
Originally Posted by GordonGordon:
“Why is baiting housemates against the rules? This is something that should be sorted out within the house, not by Big Brother. Telling Boom and Bear to clean the house up was ridiculous, big brother should step in for genuine rule breaking not for when two housemates are on the wind up being *****.”
“Why is baiting housemates against the rules? This is something that should be sorted out within the house, not by Big Brother. Telling Boom and Bear to clean the house up was ridiculous, big brother should step in for genuine rule breaking not for when two housemates are on the wind up being *****.”
Do you consider throwing the house food everywhere an innocuous wind up?
He sometimes goes too far, but I like the way he plays the game.
Sam Fox, who's done bugger all and says she's only on there to revive her singing career will probably win, though.
Sam Fox, who's done bugger all and says she's only on there to revive her singing career will probably win, though.
Originally Posted by GordonGordon:
“Why is baiting housemates against the rules? This is something that should be sorted out within the house, not by Big Brother. Telling Boom and Bear to clean the house up was ridiculous, big brother should step in for genuine rule breaking not for when two housemates are on the wind up being *****.”
“Why is baiting housemates against the rules? This is something that should be sorted out within the house, not by Big Brother. Telling Boom and Bear to clean the house up was ridiculous, big brother should step in for genuine rule breaking not for when two housemates are on the wind up being *****.”
Telling them to clear up was a health & safety issue primarily. What BBUK do not want is somebody like Renee suing them when she's just recovered from a leg injury and some other surgery, because she slipped over and injured herself on some oil and/or food thrown about by a housemate because BB thought it would be okay to let it remain lying around.
Originally Posted by GordonGordon:
“Why is baiting housemates against the rules? This is something that should be sorted out within the house, not by Big Brother. Telling Boom and Bear to clean the house up was ridiculous, big brother should step in for genuine rule breaking not for when two housemates are on the wind up being *****.”
“Why is baiting housemates against the rules? This is something that should be sorted out within the house, not by Big Brother. Telling Boom and Bear to clean the house up was ridiculous, big brother should step in for genuine rule breaking not for when two housemates are on the wind up being *****.”
Baiting others is not nice when done constantly. Everyone has a snapping point and it amounts to torture. Renee is probably in tears due to having to control herself under severe provocation rather than actually being upset in a normal way.
As for them having to clean up their mess, it does fall under health and safety. Throw olive oil over your workplace floor and I am sure it would have to be cleaned quickly. Olive oil will also be difficult to remove from that astro turf as it's not the easiest liquid in the first place.
It is a Big Brother rule - and always has been - to respect the house, fixtures and fittings (and that includes astro turf 
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I've never heard about it being against the rules ... and I don't recall a housemate ever being warned about 'baiting' before
Does anyone else ?
Does anyone else ?
Originally Posted by smoggieboon:
“Do you consider throwing the house food everywhere an innocuous wind up?”
“Do you consider throwing the house food everywhere an innocuous wind up?”
Nope, it would be incredibly infuriating but it's got **** all to do with Big Brother. It should be sorted out internally by the HMs
Not sure why Renee could sue Big Brother, surely she would be suing Bear for putting it there in the first place. It's like someone throwing around oil everywhere in the streets then blaming the council for not cleaning it up.
They need to be roofless and show them the tape of him cowering before the security guard, that would shut him up.
Originally Posted by diesels hummin:
“They need to be roofless and show them the tape of him cowering before the security guard, that would shut him up.”
“They need to be roofless and show them the tape of him cowering before the security guard, that would shut him up.”
He would try to joke and prat about and laugh it off but he'd be dying inside 😀
Originally Posted by GordonGordon:
“Nope, it would be incredibly infuriating but it's got **** all to do with Big Brother. It should be sorted out internally by the HMs
Not sure why Renee could sue Big Brother, surely she would be suing Bear for putting it there in the first place. It's like someone throwing around oil everywhere in the streets then blaming the council for not cleaning it up.”
“Nope, it would be incredibly infuriating but it's got **** all to do with Big Brother. It should be sorted out internally by the HMs
Not sure why Renee could sue Big Brother, surely she would be suing Bear for putting it there in the first place. It's like someone throwing around oil everywhere in the streets then blaming the council for not cleaning it up.”
Because she is in their employ and therefore they have a duty of care to her. One of their responsibilities is to provide a safe working environment.,
Originally Posted by GordonGordon:
“Nope, it would be incredibly infuriating but it's got **** all to do with Big Brother. It should be sorted out internally by the HMs
Not sure why Renee could sue Big Brother, surely she would be suing Bear for putting it there in the first place. It's like someone throwing around oil everywhere in the streets then blaming the council for not cleaning it up.”
“Nope, it would be incredibly infuriating but it's got **** all to do with Big Brother. It should be sorted out internally by the HMs
Not sure why Renee could sue Big Brother, surely she would be suing Bear for putting it there in the first place. It's like someone throwing around oil everywhere in the streets then blaming the council for not cleaning it up.”
You must surely realise that BB are, at the moment, Renee's (and Bear's) employers. They have a duty of care to her (and to Bear, who could also fall on the oil and break his neck) and, had they neglected to tell Bear and Heavy to clean up the mess, they would be lacking in that duty of care.
Seeing as only BB has any influence over the actions of Bear (and probably Heavy at that time, as he does what he's told by Bear at the moment - again), then it was BB's responsibility to ensure the mess would be cleaned up and the danger removed.
I also feel that the producers have been receiving some flack with regard to what's been going on. They seem to have decided to show their tellings off of Bear (which it's been mentioned several times do happen but we rarely see). The audience have felt that BB has been biased towards Bear to the point of protecting him, so perhaps they are listening to feedback from some quarters.
Or not of course, it's just the impression I got by the mere fact that suddenly we are seeing these talks with Bear when previously we weren't.
Originally Posted by GordonGordon:
“Nope, it would be incredibly infuriating but it's got **** all to do with Big Brother. It should be sorted out internally by the HMs
Not sure why Renee could sue Big Brother, surely she would be suing Bear for putting it there in the first place. It's like someone throwing around oil everywhere in the streets then blaming the council for not cleaning it up.”
“Nope, it would be incredibly infuriating but it's got **** all to do with Big Brother. It should be sorted out internally by the HMs
Not sure why Renee could sue Big Brother, surely she would be suing Bear for putting it there in the first place. It's like someone throwing around oil everywhere in the streets then blaming the council for not cleaning it up.”
It's considered a place of work so it is the employer who holds the insurance for workplace accidents. The person causing the mess is responsible to the employer and the employer is responsible for health and safety.
Theres a point at which constant baiting and picking on people becomes bullying. Bear is tormenting Renee all day every day to the point where she's been in tears a number of times. Just because she's assertive and able to tell him to **** off doesn't mean the behaviour isn't still bullying. Especially when he is always the one initiating it. Horrible little monster he is.
Originally Posted by hisdogspot:
“I've never heard about it being against the rules ... and I don't recall a housemate ever being warned about 'baiting' before
Does anyone else ?”
“I've never heard about it being against the rules ... and I don't recall a housemate ever being warned about 'baiting' before
Does anyone else ?”
I've never seen anyone do anything to this extent. Housemates in the past might have once or twice ... but this is constant, unrelenting, and vicious.
Originally Posted by HughOS:
“Theres a point at which constant baiting and picking on people becomes bullying. Bear is tormenting Renee all day every day to the point where she's been in tears a number of times. Just because she's assertive and able to tell him to **** off doesn't mean the behaviour isn't still bullying. Especially when he is always the one initiating it. Horrible little monster he is.”
“Theres a point at which constant baiting and picking on people becomes bullying. Bear is tormenting Renee all day every day to the point where she's been in tears a number of times. Just because she's assertive and able to tell him to **** off doesn't mean the behaviour isn't still bullying. Especially when he is always the one initiating it. Horrible little monster he is.”
I hate, hate, hate bullying and have seen it on BB a number of times - and BB usually does little about it. However, I don't regard what Bear does as bullying, he's just a wind-up merchant and he does it to almost everyone. Heavy D seems to be the only one capable of giving it back.
Renee bites too easily and is too emotional, but BB are right to stop Bear if he goes too far.
Originally Posted by GordonGordon:
“Nope, it would be incredibly infuriating but it's got **** all to do with Big Brother. It should be sorted out internally by the HMs
Not sure why Renee could sue Big Brother, surely she would be suing Bear for putting it there in the first place. It's like someone throwing around oil everywhere in the streets then blaming the council for not cleaning it up.”
“Nope, it would be incredibly infuriating but it's got **** all to do with Big Brother. It should be sorted out internally by the HMs
Not sure why Renee could sue Big Brother, surely she would be suing Bear for putting it there in the first place. It's like someone throwing around oil everywhere in the streets then blaming the council for not cleaning it up.”
And how could the HM sort it out themselves, your not thinking straight.
The street is not a managed environment remotely similar to the BB house. The ultimate responsibility falls on BB not Bear, they guarantee housemates safety supposedly. I hate this litigious culture, but if it needed to happen I would sue the company that put me in that house with a sociopath and let him run riot.
Originally Posted by smoggieboon:
“Do you consider throwing the house food everywhere an innocuous wind up?”
“Do you consider throwing the house food everywhere an innocuous wind up?”
It's only "innocuous" when you're not the one who has to clean up afterwards.
It's ridiculous to say they should just sort it out within the house. That doesn't work. Most of them are absolutely ground down by his relentless stupidly and are not being themselves because it's too much effort to even try. He has been allowed to carry on like this and will not stop now. He's just ruined this series for the other housemates and for me as a viewer. I don't think I have seen him show one true emotion in there, not once
Originally Posted by patricia50:
“It's ridiculous to say they should just sort it out within the house. That doesn't work. Most of them are absolutely ground down by his relentless stupidly and are not being themselves because it's too much effort to even try. He has been allowed to carry on like this and will not stop now. He's just ruined this series for the other housemates and for me as a viewer. I don't think I have seen him show one true emotion in there, not once”
“It's ridiculous to say they should just sort it out within the house. That doesn't work. Most of them are absolutely ground down by his relentless stupidly and are not being themselves because it's too much effort to even try. He has been allowed to carry on like this and will not stop now. He's just ruined this series for the other housemates and for me as a viewer. I don't think I have seen him show one true emotion in there, not once”
Spot on also with being up for eviction each week, which since he as been up there have been more than two up, yet the first week even though he should have been up, they only put James and Grant up. Him being up each week with 3/4 other's every time he gets saved he gets worse,it should have been that he wasn't allowed to nominate as well. Imho this up every week is the same as a ticket to the final. I want to see him there the final week but go in that week, so near yet a LOSER.
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