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Emmerdale: Aaron Dingle and Robert Sugden Appreciation Thread (Part 9)
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Francy
21-10-2016
Originally Posted by Windy_City:
“This. I dont care when they bash the couple its when they go on and on about "teenage fangirls" as if that is an insult. If it was composed of all teen fans (which is not true) then whats so bad about it. Age doesn't make someone any less of a fan.”

I hate Delena on The Vampire Diaries, and I hate Ste/Harry on HO, for example. I am convinced that those pairings, who I find awful on every level, appeal mainly to young girls (Ste/Harry, especially), but I don't begrudge them for that. People like what they like, just like I do. There are different things targeted at different kind of audiences, and that's the way it should be. I leave them to their shipping, and I concentrate on what I like. I certainly don't spend all my time on a forum bashing them and their ships. Don't people have better ways to spend their time?? Some posters on the main forum literally bash Robron in every single one of their posts. That's true commitment... and I don't get it.
sderr123
21-10-2016
Originally Posted by Windy_City:
“This. I dont care when they bash the couple its when they go on and on about "teenage fangirls" as if that is an insult. If it was composed of all teen fans (which is not true) then whats so bad about it. Age doesn't make someone any less of a fan.”

It is an insult. They are essentially calling any one who likes Robron little girls with all the connotations of that. That they are stupid unsophisticated children. Its a sexist remark. It always fangirls you notice never fanboys.
ArtyAttack
21-10-2016
Originally Posted by Fhionnuisce:
“That ed tweet what's the difference between high dependency and intensive care presumably there's some reason for showing it ”

High Dependency Unit is located close to Intensive Care but not quite as serious. Usually for people who have had major surgery and possible organ failure.
Francy
21-10-2016
Originally Posted by sderr123:
“It is an insult. They are essentially calling any one who likes Robron little girls with all the connotations of that. That they are stupid unsophisticated children. Its a sexist remark. It always fangirls you notice never fanboys.”

Very true. I wish I was truly a fangirl, though.... I wouldn't be so old!!
Andy_Marlowe
21-10-2016
Originally Posted by sderr123:
“Oh I agree that's part of it. The outrageous reaction to that throw away line about Jack Sugden proves that. I pretty sure some on the MF did not watch Monday's episode or only watched to find something to object to.

Then I think there is the contingent of those who want to see gay couples portrayed differently. There aren't enough erotic scenes, they are abusive to each other etc. That's part of this couple's success. They aren't being used to deliver a "message" and are treated like any other soap couple.”

I am glad you bought this up. Several of those viewers said that had the Jack episode really happened they would have shown it on TV, but ITV, even today, is very conservative and I don't think underaged gay sex, would have been mentioned let alone suggested on screen fifteen years ago. Another poster also accused Aaron of lying about his sexual abuse by Gordon (they would have shown that, wouldn't they - an 8-16 year old lad being raped by his dad.

Those viewers love and respect for Jack, is I strongly suspect, very questionable. Jack would have been an old fashioned parent. My personal experiences came five years before Roberts, but, though there was no physical abuse, there was a lot of verbal abuse, when emotional blackmail and threats of "treatment" (psychotherapy and hormonal - refused) failed. Both my parents were health professionals, so I can well imagine a man of the soil would have been even more severe!
sderr123
21-10-2016
Originally Posted by Francy:
“I hate Delena on The Vampire Diaries, and I hate Ste/Harry on HO, for example. I am convinced that those pairings, who I find awful on every level, appeal mainly to young girls (Ste/Harry, especially), but I don't begrudge them for that. People like what they like, just like I do. There are different things targeted at different kind of audiences, and that's the way it should be. I leave them to their shipping, and I concentrate on what I like. I certainly don't spend all my time on a forum bashing them and their ships. Don't people have better ways to spend their time?? Some posters on the main forum literally bash Robron in every single one of their posts. That's true commitment... and I don't get it.”

Why shouldn't some forms of media be produced to appeal to young woman. Believe me on the whole mainstream media does not bend over backwards to appeal to young women. Quite the contrary.
abrightyz
21-10-2016
Originally Posted by Fhionnuisce:
“That ed tweet what's the difference between high dependency and intensive care presumably there's some reason for showing it ”

can u link? i can't find it?
Francy
21-10-2016
Originally Posted by sderr123:
“Why shouldn't some forms of media be produced to appeal to young woman. Believe me on the whole mainstream media does not bend over backwards to appeal to young women. Quite the contrary.”

Indeed!! As I said, different things for different audiences. Anyway, even if Robron was targeted to a teenage audience and so popular because of that (which I don't believe is true, because as we all know people of all ages enjoy them), why would that make so many people foam at the mouth with irrational hatred?? I don't get it.
tink02
21-10-2016
Originally Posted by ArtyAttack:
“High Dependency Unit is located close to Intensive Care but not quite as serious. Usually for people who have had major surgery and possible organ failure.”

Their spelling is atrocious
Mumto3
21-10-2016
Originally Posted by Fhionnuisce:
“They just heard you and took down DS ”

did i miss something?? Have the bots been in playing havoc again! I had it yesterday
Originally Posted by sderr123:
“It is an insult. They are essentially calling any one who likes Robron little girls with all the connotations of that. That they are stupid unsophisticated children. Its a sexist remark. It always fangirls you notice never fanboys.”

I have just put a poll on twitter to try and work out whos who lol! Not all teenagers at all, hate how some stereotype the fandom. Diversity at its best here
Lmack
21-10-2016
Originally Posted by Fhionnuisce:
“That ed tweet what's the difference between high dependency and intensive care presumably there's some reason for showing it ”

Definitely must mean something.Maybe there are people in both these units.They are normally near or next to each other
Lmack
21-10-2016
Originally Posted by Mumto3:
“did i miss something?? Have the bots been in playing havoc again! I had it yesterday

I have just put a poll on twitter to try and work out whos who lol! Not all teenagers at all, hate how some stereotype the fandom. Diversity at its best here ”

I do too.Although even Danny and probably Ryan think that it's made up of teenagers.Danny has mentioned it a few times
benn10
21-10-2016
The complication tonight from the spoilers is Rhona. They've released a spoiler line on facebook
Fhionnuisce
21-10-2016
Originally Posted by abrightyz:
“can u link? i can't find it? ”

Its the third pic down but you may be distracted by a rather nice one of Robert on erm your way down
ArtyAttack
21-10-2016
Originally Posted by benn10:
“The complication tonight from the spoilers is Rhona. They've released a spoiler line on facebook”

I think her spleen ruptures.
Fhionnuisce
21-10-2016
Originally Posted by Lmack:
“I do too.Although even Danny and probably Ryan think that it's made up of teenagers.Danny has mentioned it a few times”

I think Ryan more than Danny
Fhionnuisce
21-10-2016
Originally Posted by ArtyAttack:
“I think her spleen ruptures. ”

Could that have been down to Pearce in any way
abrightyz
21-10-2016
Originally Posted by Fhionnuisce:
“Its the third pic down but you may be distracted by a rather nice one of Robert on erm your way down ”


ha ha ha indeed
Andy_Marlowe
21-10-2016
Originally Posted by Francy:
“I hate Delena on The Vampire Diaries, and I hate Ste/Harry on HO, for example. I am convinced that those pairings, who I find awful on every level, appeal mainly to young girls (Ste/Harry, especially), but I don't begrudge them for that. People like what they like, just like I do. There are different things targeted at different kind of audiences, and that's the way it should be. I leave them to their shipping, and I concentrate on what I like. I certainly don't spend all my time on a forum bashing them and their ships. Don't people have better ways to spend their time?? Some posters on the main forum literally bash Robron in every single one of their posts. That's true commitment... and I don't get it.”

That I think is true. I haven't seen Hollyoaks for ages, but when I did there was always an excuse for one or other or both,usually, to have their shirts off (one one occassion in the school room!). Youget the occassional scene with Robron, but there is usually a reason for it (Aaron in the bath Robert in bed). I think Robron appeal both to different age groups (I am 37) and both sexes (male in my case).
abrightyz
21-10-2016
Originally Posted by Fhionnuisce:
“Could that have been down to Pearce in any way ”

no.. i think the accident itself... the car went turtle a few times
ArtyAttack
21-10-2016
Originally Posted by Fhionnuisce:
“Could that have been down to Pearce in any way ”

It is usually due to an injury or blow to the upper left abdomen or left lower chest. It is life threatening.If they have to remove it she will have to go on anti-biotics for rest of her life.
Lmack
21-10-2016
Originally Posted by Fhionnuisce:
“I think Ryan more than Danny”

Yeah although Danny has said it quite a few times
abrightyz
21-10-2016
opening the alcohol in ten and crisps
Mumto3
21-10-2016
Originally Posted by Lmack:
“I do too.Although even Danny and probably Ryan think that it's made up of teenagers.Danny has mentioned it a few times”

Maybe they just go on who they have contact with, but there's definitely more over teenage years
Originally Posted by abrightyz:
“opening the alcohol in ten and crisps ”

got mine already
andy614
21-10-2016
I think that the people they come across though at the studios and places and the main bulk of twitter activity Danny see's is young girls. That's why he and ryan think that. Obviously there are lots of different ages of fans and lots of male fans, it's just that i think the bulk of what they experience is the younger girls type of group as they are a bit more excitable and active probably.
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