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Emmerdale: Aaron Dingle and Robert Sugden Appreciation Thread (Part 9)
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Randomguy83
16-08-2016
I edited my last post btw.

It's a very strange spoiler to just have there in that Tuesday hour episode. Seems like it comes from sort of nowhere but obviously motivated by this Lachlan stuff.

I still don't see why she'd worry about being thrown out and then deliberately cut up his clothes. I'm wondering if something Lachlan says something that makes her think she'll be kicked out.
abrightyz
16-08-2016
ha ha ha... maybe that was supposed to be embargoed? lolz
Randomguy83
16-08-2016
Originally Posted by abrightyz:
“ha ha ha... maybe that was supposed to be embargoed? lolz”

I don't think so. They only tend to embargo big stuff like exits or shock twists.
AmyEWright
16-08-2016
Obviously Aaron must see or hear something to know that Lachlan and Liv are talking to each other.. After she told him she'd stay away.. Then it could go a number of ways.. 1. Liv cuts up Aaron's clothes because he's kicked off about Lachlan.. Then worries he'll kick her out.. Or 2. After finding out she's being seeing Lachlan Liv thinks Aaron will kick her out so she 'tests' Aaron by cutting up his clothes

Even with the stuff about Lachlan it is still quite randomly thrown in.. Makes me think maybe there could be something going on that week to do with Robert's plan to catch Lachlan out? Maybe it's just because it's a Tuesday hour long ep that the spoilers are sparse and this is just a extra plot to fill up the episode.
sderr123
16-08-2016
Putting together Liv and Lachlan seems to be even more reason for Robert and Aaron to want to expose Chrissie.
abrightyz
16-08-2016
Originally Posted by Randomguy83:
“I don't think so. They only tend to embargo big stuff like exits or shock twists.”


ironically the bit that's a head-scratcher for me is them stating that aaron reassures liv... coz what happened to suspense? lolz... ....unless it doesn't end there
AmyEWright
16-08-2016
Originally Posted by sderr123:
“Putting together Liv and Lachlan seems to be even more reason for Robert and Aaron to want to expose Chrissie.”

Yeah definitely! I'd have thought Aaron and Robert would tell Liv about Lachlan shooting Lawrence and Chrissie framing Andy to keep her away from him but I guess they don't.. Or she doesn't believe them?
Randomguy83
16-08-2016
Originally Posted by AmyEWright:
“Obviously Aaron must see or hear something to know that Lachlan and Liv are talking to each other.. After she told him she'd stay away.. Then it could go a number of ways.. 1. Liv cuts up Aaron's clothes because he's kicked off about Lachlan.. Then worries he'll kick her out.. Or 2. After finding out she's being seeing Lachlan Liv thinks Aaron will kick her out so she 'tests' Aaron by cutting up his clothes

Even with the stuff about Lachlan it is still quite randomly thrown in.. Makes me think maybe there could be something going on that week to do with Robert's plan to catch Lachlan out? Maybe it's just because it's a Tuesday hour long ep that the spoilers are sparse and this is just a extra plot to fill up the episode.”

It's probably just filler very possibly setting something up that puts Aaron in a tricky situation with her.

Originally Posted by sderr123:
“Putting together Liv and Lachlan seems to be even more reason for Robert and Aaron to want to expose Chrissie.”

I think it's just to ramp up this 'feud' akin to Romeo and Juliet. I doubt Liv will be told anything about Andy so she'd just see it as Aaron trying to keep her away from someone who did something bad over a year ago as opposed to him very recently shooting someone.

Originally Posted by abrightyz:
“ironically the bit that's a head-scratcher for me is them stating that aaron reassures liv... coz what happened to suspense? lolz... ....unless it doesn't end there ”

Well he reassures her before she cuts his clothes up .
sderr123
16-08-2016
Originally Posted by Randomguy83:
“It's probably just filler very possibly setting something up that puts Aaron in a tricky situation with her.



I think it's just to ramp up this 'feud' akin to Romeo and Juliet. I doubt Liv will be told anything about Andy so she'd just see it as Aaron trying to keep her away from someone who did something bad over a year ago as opposed to him very recently shooting someone.



Well he reassures her before she cuts his clothes up .”

As Liv doesn't know Andy (I don't think she's ever spoken to him) I sure she will be confused as to what to think. I wouldn't expect her to care much about Andy. Robert and Aaron are predictably going end up going nuts with Liv who is under the age of consent spending time at HF with Lachlan.
Randomguy83
16-08-2016
Originally Posted by sderr123:
“As Liv doesn't know Andy (I don't think she's ever spoken to him) I sure she will be confused as to what to think. I wouldn't expect her to care much about Andy. Robert and Aaron are predictably going end up going nuts with Liv who is under the age of consent spending time at HF with Lachlan.”

I think the only people who will know anything will be Robert, Aaron, Vic and maybe Adam. I don't see Diane being told.

Others who might find out at some point will probably be Charity and Chas.
abrightyz
16-08-2016
Originally Posted by sderr123:
“As Liv doesn't know Andy (I don't think she's ever spoken to him) I sure she will be confused as to what to think. I wouldn't expect her to care much about Andy. Robert and Aaron are predictably going end up going nuts with Liv who is under the age of consent spending time at HF with Lachlan.”

....ermmm hello Daddy!Robron vibes
Lucie_Girard
16-08-2016
Originally Posted by Randomguy83:
“It's probably just filler very possibly setting something up that puts Aaron in a tricky situation with her.



I think it's just to ramp up this 'feud' akin to Romeo and Juliet. I doubt Liv will be told anything about Andy so she'd just see it as Aaron trying to keep her away from someone who did something bad over a year ago as opposed to him very recently shooting someone.



Well he reassures her before she cuts his clothes up .”

Sigh i was starting to like her lol
IheartRobronNYC
16-08-2016
Originally Posted by WhatYouGonnaDo?:
“There is a lot more to it than that actually. Robert will always have more of a place in the show because he is a Sugden who was born on the show. Chrissie and newer characters like her are more disposable unless popular with the audience. She has never really been that and certainly never will be now.”

Agreed.

I know I am a bit behind in commenting. Who knew a temp job would be so consuming?!?
IheartRobronNYC
16-08-2016
Originally Posted by EddyBee:
“Agreed.

I'm really sorry that they've done this to the Chrissie character. A complete contrast to how she was initially developed. IMO a complete waste of a potentially good character but it is what it is.

I'm pretty certain that the Whites will not be in Emmerdale for much longer, certainly not all 3 of them. The Emmerdale team had already taken Lachlan beyond the point of Soapland redemption, now Chrissie. The future does not look good for yet another Home Farm family.”

Originally Posted by WhatYouGonnaDo?:
“She wasn't popular before this storyline but my god right about now I think she is universally reviled (outside of the DS mf of course) This isn't something a character comes back from. If she was a bloke maybe but the viewing audience tend to be less forgiving of women. She will have to get a comeuppance and to keep the audience happy it will need to be a big one.”


Yes, yes and yes. Well written all.
IheartRobronNYC
16-08-2016
Originally Posted by EddyBee:
“Robert's closing remarks to Andy about them both eventually teaming up against Chrissie, suggests to me that Kelvin will be returning to Emmerdale. He is not leaving permanently. ”


Yep, that is how I took it as well. Like many, I have nothing for Andy at all. He irritates me more than words can say.

That being said, Kelvin seems like a great man, and I wish him the best. Enjoy fatherhood!
Andy_Marlowe
16-08-2016
Originally Posted by AmyEWright:
“Obviously Aaron must see or hear something to know that Lachlan and Liv are talking to each other.. After she told him she'd stay away.. Then it could go a number of ways.. 1. Liv cuts up Aaron's clothes because he's kicked off about Lachlan.. Then worries he'll kick her out.. Or 2. After finding out she's being seeing Lachlan Liv thinks Aaron will kick her out so she 'tests' Aaron by cutting up his clothes

Even with the stuff about Lachlan it is still quite randomly thrown in..
Makes me think maybe there could be something going on that week to do with Robert's plan to catch Lachlan out? Maybe it's just because it's a Tuesday hour long ep that the spoilers are sparse and this is just a extra plot to fill up the episode.”

I still believe Lachlan will commit suicide or get killed trying to escape (even the name "Lachlan" has the sort of ring to it that Agatha Christie used for her domestic killers), which, of course, will give Chrissie a reason to target Robron, and will give loathsome Liv another reason to "hate" Aaron. Please send the miserable little madam off to Belfast or boarding school in September!
Andy_Marlowe
16-08-2016
Originally Posted by sugding:
“Is it just me or have they filled the important stuff out with rubbish tonight?”

I agree. At 10.30 at night needy David begging for marriage again was too much so the FF button came into play, as it did for April- Marlon especially seems to have to act extra puerile with her. And I still wish wardrobe would give her some teeth
Andy_Marlowe
16-08-2016
Being an only child I am not the best at commenting on this. I can understand the almost brotherly bond between Aaron and Adam, as they are so alike in many ways, but I don't "get" the Robert/Andy connection. Apart from the fact they are not "real" brothers, Andy never hesitates to let Robert know how much he dislikes him - even when he was in so much trouble last night, and needed a favour, yet, such is his air of entitlement, he obviously feels Robert "owes" him. Robert would clearly help Andy in the same way AaronAdam help each other, but - why?. If I were Robert I wouldn't help Andy.
Coldwater2020
16-08-2016
Quote:
“ Andy never hesitates to let Robert know how much he dislikes him - even when he was in so much trouble last night, and needed a favour, yet, such is his air of entitlement, he obviously feels Robert "owes" him. Robert would clearly help Andy in the same way AaronAdam help each other, but - why?. If I were Robert I wouldn't help Andy”

Adam and Aaron have never done to each other what Robert and Andy have done to each other. Adam and Aaron have a very loving close relationship. Andy and Robert have a very toxic love/hate relationship that seems to be mostly hate lately and that's ignoring all the stuff that happened before Robert left originally. Just since Robert's return he torched his caravan, killed his wife (albeit accidentally), confessed to killing her and then tried to make everyone think he was crazy and then Andy plotted to murder him. But even with all that I actually think when Robert initially came back Andy seemed far more willing than Robert to let bygones despite the previous bad blood between them precisely because he still saw them as brothers, albeit brothers who didn't always like each other. I think because we're getting a kinder, gentler Robert these days people forget just how awful and antagonistic and really quite petty he was a lot of the time back then. I don't know if Andy would rally to help him these days, I kind of doubt it, maybe if Victoria begged him, but I think he would have done before the Katie reveal.
Janey230
16-08-2016
Originally Posted by Coldwater2020:
“Adam and Aaron have never done to each other what Robert and Andy have done to each other. Adam and Aaron have a very loving close relationship. Andy and Robert have a very toxic love/hate relationship that seems to be mostly hate lately and that's ignoring all the stuff that happened before Robert left originally. Just since Robert's return he torched his caravan, killed his wife (albeit accidentally), confessed to killing her and then tried to make everyone think he was crazy and then Andy plotted to murder him. But even with all that I actually think when Robert initially came back Andy seemed far more willing than Robert to let bygones despite the previous bad blood between them precisely because he still saw them as brothers, albeit brothers who didn't always like each other. I think because we're getting a kinder, gentler Robert these days people forget just how awful and antagonistic and really quite petty he was a lot of the time back then. I don't know if Andy would rally to help him these days, I kind of doubt it, maybe if Victoria begged him, but I think he would have done before the Katie reveal.”

I also think the way Robert feels about Andy is a lot to do with how he feels about his dad, and something to do with trying to do what he would have wanted.

Robert refers to him a lot, as do his family when talking to Robert. (Andy says "It's what Dad would have wanted" when asking Robert to come to the wedding; Vic says "Dad would have understood" when trying to get Robert to admit his feelings for Aaron, etc.)

I think Robert does love Andy as a brother, but he also desperately wants his late father's approval, and helping Andy would achieve that.
BcUhTrTyEeRdCUP
16-08-2016
Originally Posted by Marianne_321:
“So sorry to hear that Buttercup!! Lots of love & hugs!! xxx”

Thanks
andy614
16-08-2016
Oh brilliant, Louise has just signed a new contract. Another year of Chrissie. Woop woop......

They better calm her down otherwise she will become one of the most ridiculous characters in soap and given soaps include Hollyoaks that's no mean feat.
andy614
16-08-2016
Anyway, hoping Aaron is in tonight. Is it tonight Robert fills him in () on his plans for Andy?
S_Rawl
16-08-2016
Originally Posted by andy614:
“Oh brilliant, Louise has just signed a new contract. Another year of Chrissie. Woop woop......

They better calm her down otherwise she will become one of the most ridiculous characters in soap and given soaps include Hollyoaks that's no mean feat.”

From reading the article, I reckon she will only do this one final year. They will make her reek havoc then get her comeuppance next summer and leave the show. It sounded to me like she wont be a long running character and like many have said, if she continues on this 'Super Bitch' path, it will be difficult for her to remain too much longer. (Not that i'm too bothered about her being on the show, not really her biggest fan)
Randomguy83
16-08-2016
TM just showed an exclusive clip from tonight of Robert and Andy. Seems like they're in the barn .
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