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Emmerdale: Aaron Dingle and Robert Sugden Appreciation Thread (Part 9)
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WhatYouGonnaDo?
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by sderr123:
“Chas secret is likely that the Woolpack is in financial difficulties because of Charity's miss-management and Chas is in debt trying to keep it afloat. Chas has been complaining non-stop about Charity's work at the pub.

As far as Aaron goes his boyfriend and sister live at the Woolpack, presumably rent free. I have never seen them pay rent. I don't believe Aaron asked Chas permission to move a couple of people into her home either. How many times has Aaron's family bailed him out? And his sister hasn't she made it completely clear that she doesn't want to move from place to place any more. All well and good to preserve Liv's inheritance for when she turns 18 but where will she live in the mean time.

Aaron will buy into the Woolpack if need be for his family. It would be far better for him to actually own the place where he lives any way.”

We never see anyone pay rent on emmerdale unless it is a random relevance to that weeks plot (see Tracey not being able to pay her share) but it is safe to assume they all do so, including Aaron.

In what world is it ok for someone to help themselves to money in a child's bank account? Which is the scenario that was being mooted. I am sure if she asked, Aaron would help her if he could out of his own money (Liv's is a no go, end of story) but it is the lack of asking that is the issue in that scenario.

Scratching my head trying to remember when Aaron's family has ever bailed him out he always paid his way and Lisa put him to work at the garage pretty much straight away.
sderr123
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by WhatYouGonnaDo?:
“We never see anyone pay rent on emmerdale unless it is a random relevance to that weeks plot (see Tracey not being able to pay her share) but it is safe to assume they all do so, including Aaron.

In what world is it ok for someone to help themselves to money in a child's bank account? Which is the scenario that was being mooted. I am sure if she asked, Aaron would help her if he could out of his own money (Liv's is a no go, end of story) but it is the lack of asking that is the issue in that scenario.

Scratching my head trying to remember when Aaron's family has ever bailed him out he always paid his way and Lisa put him to work at the garage pretty much straight away.”

Chas helping herself to Aaron's money is just a theory and not one I really subscribe to myself. It looks more like Liv discovers Chas is in debt and is looking to use her inheritance to buy it.

As far as Chas asking Aaron to step up and buy the pub- I think she would have every right to ask him to do that. I am not sure about the scenario of Aaron not wanting to own the pub. As I say he lives there.
WhatYouGonnaDo?
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by sderr123:
“Chas helping herself to Aaron's money is just a theory and not one I really subscribe to myself. It looks more like Liv discovers Chas is in debt and is looking to use her inheritance to buy it.

As far as Chas asking Aaron to step up and buy the pub- I think she would have every right to ask him to do that. I am not sure about the scenario of Aaron not wanting to own the pub. As I say he lives there.”

Of course she can ask him to buy into it. But he didnt have the money at Christmas when he wanted to help her out so why would he have it now

If the money was there (and its not) he would be more likely to give it to Chas than buy in himself.
andy614
31-08-2016
I hope IS aren't trolling and we do see Robron. Though it's a shame it'll be a negative one if we do.
Mumto3
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by WhatYouGonnaDo?:
“We never see anyone pay rent on emmerdale unless it is a random relevance to that weeks plot (see Tracey not being able to pay her share) but it is safe to assume they all do so, including Aaron.

In what world is it ok for someone to help themselves to money in a child's bank account? Which is the scenario that was being mooted. I am sure if she asked, Aaron would help her if he could out of his own money (Liv's is a no go, end of story) but it is the lack of asking that is the issue in that scenario.

Scratching my head trying to remember when Aaron's family has ever bailed him out he always paid his way and Lisa put him to work at the garage pretty much straight away.”

I think the scenario was Her claiming Aarons money on his behalf and Liv discovering a bank statement. Chas would have to be desperate to keep the money for her own gain, not something she would do-Charity yes but not Chas. I think the theory of money troubles sound more likely tho thinking about it.
sderr123
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by WhatYouGonnaDo?:
“Of course she can ask him to buy into it. But he didnt have the money at Christmas when he wanted to help her out so why would he have it now

If the money was there (and its not) he would be more likely to give it to Chas than buy in himself.”

Chas may not have turned down Aaron's share of Gordon's money.

Why is it difficult to understand its preferable to own the home in which you live and intend to remain rather than just loan money to someone else to buy it? There have been issues about privacy with Charity. As it stands Aaron can only request that she respect his privacy.
Mumto3
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by andy614:
“Judging by Inside Soap we could get Robron tonight, Aaron wanting to go out for a drink but Robert being too distracted by operation destroy the whites.”

I realy hope we do get to see them share a scene together. My VM planner just says Robert pushes Lachlan to confess amd we have the preview video or him on his laptop too. They better not be trolling getting hopes up!
AmyEWright
31-08-2016
I'd say inside soap are usually trustworthy so hopefully there is some Robron! Any Robron automatically makes the episode so much better
Randomguy83
31-08-2016
Here's what Andy was alluding to from IS btw for anyone who hasn't seen:

2. ROBERT’S HOT PLOT

You have to feel sorry for Aaron Dingle at times. He’d quite like to do some normal things, like go out for a drink. Unfortunately, boyfriend Robert has far too much plotting to do. Tonight, Robert thinks he’s finally managed to coax a confession out of guilt-ridden Lachlan. It seems his plans are coming to head!


The picture they use is one from tomorrow as it's the body warmer one so I'd say they're definitely sharing at least 1 scene tonight.
WhatYouGonnaDo?
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by sderr123:
“Chas may not have turned down Aaron's share of Gordon's money.

Why is it difficult to understand its preferable to own the home in which you live and intend to remain rather than just loan money to someone else to buy it? There have been issues about privacy with Charity. As it stands Aaron can only request that she respect his privacy.”

It was never offered to her and it's not Aaron's anymore, so what she would have done with it is by the by.

It's not difficult to understand. I just happen to think that Aaron is more likely to want to give Chas the money so that she can own the pub outright herself than go into partnership with her as for Aaron staying at home with his mum is a stop gap until he gets his own place with Liv and Robert and not a long term plan. That was made clear earlier in the year when Robert moved in. It's not something Aaron wants to be a long term arrangement, he wants his own home were he can have his privacy.
sderr123
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by Randomguy83:
“Here's what Andy was alluding to from IS btw for anyone who hasn't seen:

2. ROBERT’S HOT PLOT

You have to feel sorry for Aaron Dingle at times. He’d quite like to do some normal things, like go out for a drink. Unfortunately, boyfriend Robert has far too much plotting to do. Tonight, Robert thinks he’s finally managed to coax a confession out of guilt-ridden Lachlan. It seems his plans are coming to head!


The picture they use is one from tomorrow as it's the body warmer one so I'd say they're definitely sharing at least 1 scene tonight.”

Thanks,
I don't feel too bad for Aaron though. I understand Robert's point of view.
sderr123
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by WhatYouGonnaDo?:
“It's not difficult to understand. I just happen to think that Aaron is more likely to want to give Chas the money so that she can own the pub outright herself than go into partnership with her as for Aaron staying at home with his mum is a stop gap until he gets his own place with Liv and Robert and not a long term plan. That was made clear earlier in the year when Robert moved in. It's not something Aaron wants to be a long term arrangement, he wants his own home were he can have his privacy.”

I don't see Aaron and Robert owning their own home in the near future. Everyone seems to be sharing with everyone else. Robert moving in with Aaron seemed to put the end to any near term plans to get a place. If Aaron doesn't have money to buy into the pub he won't have money to buy a place with Robert either. He could rent a flat with Robert, which is an unstable living arrangement and the reason it got rejected.
Randomguy83
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by sderr123:
“I don't see Aaron and Robert owning their own home in the near future. Everyone seems to be sharing with everyone else. Robert moving in with Aaron seemed to put the end to any near term plans to get a place. If Aaron doesn't have money to buy into the pub he won't have money to buy a place with Robert either. He could rent a flat with Robert, which is an unstable living arrangement and the reason it got rejected.”

There'd be no point in renting when Robert has half a million quid.
sderr123
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by Randomguy83:
“There'd be no point in renting when Robert has half a million quid.”

But then its Robert's house not actually Aaron's. So Aaron would be better off renting in case they break up.
Unless there is an actual marriage in the near future.
WhatYouGonnaDo?
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by sderr123:
“I don't see Aaron and Robert owning their own home in the near future. Everyone seems to be sharing with everyone else. Robert moving in with Aaron seemed to put the end to any near term plans to get a place. If Aaron doesn't have money to buy into the pub he won't have money to buy a place with Robert either. He could rent a flat with Robert, which is an unstable living arrangement and the reason it got rejected.”

I don't see them moving out either (for reasons of practicality) but it is a stated fact on the show that Aaron intention is for him and Robert to get their own place. I think he and Robert together (remember Robert has around half a million sitting in a bank account) could just about afford a mortgage on a small flat for the 3 of them. Robert could also afford to buy the pub (which would requre a lot more money than a flat) but no one mentioned Aaron borrowing from Robert to finance this mythical pub deal and I think whatever arragment the two come to Aaron would want to have an equal share so Robert wont be able to splash out. How has this even turned into a debate lmao

I think actually Tracey and Vanessa's dad might be a candidate to buy into the pub. Can see him being a love interest for Chas and he is apparently loaded (according to Vanessa) and wanting to start afresh.
sderr123
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by WhatYouGonnaDo?:
“I don't see them moving out either (for reasons of practicality) but it is a stated fact on the show that Aaron intention is for him and Robert to get their own place. I think he and Robert together (remember Robert has around half a million sitting in a bank account) could just about afford a mortgage on a small flat for the 3 of them. Robert could also afford to buy the pub (which would requre a lot more money than a flat) but no one mentioned Aaron borrowing from Robert to finance this mythical pub deal and I think whatever arragment the two come to Aaron would want to have an equal share so Robert wont be able to splash out. How has this even turned into a debate lmao

I think actually Tracey and Vanessa's dad might be a candidate to buy into the pub. Can see him being a love interest for Chas and he is apparently loaded (according to Vanessa) and wanting to start afresh.”

Why would someone other than a Dingle allow Aaron and Robert to continue to live at the Woolpack. They are 2 grown men and between them occupy a lot of the living place. If I were to actually buy a place I would expect to have occupancy of it.
Randomguy83
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by sderr123:
“But then its Robert's house not actually Aaron's. So Aaron would be better off renting in case they break up.
Unless there is an actual marriage in the near future.”

He's not living in his own place currently anyway so if things went wrong he could go back to the pub.

I just don't see Aaron saying "sorry I can't move in with you as that's YOUR house." I've never known anyone say that in my life because the goal is you stay together not plan for an eventuality like splitting up which is like admitting defeat already.
sderr123
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by Randomguy83:
“He's not living in his own place currently anyway so if things went wrong he could go back to the pub.

I just don't see Aaron saying "sorry I can't move in with you as that's YOUR house." I've never known anyone say that in my life because the goal is you stay together not plan for an eventuality like splitting up which is like admitting defeat already.”

Well they have been on again off again. Which I thought was Robert's point in moving into the Woolpack and not into their own place. Unless something happens to make it more permenant.
WhatYouGonnaDo?
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by sderr123:
“Why would someone other than a Dingle allow Aaron and Robert to continue to live at the Woolpack. They are 2 grown men and between them occupy a lot of the living place. If I were to actually buy a place I would expect to have occupancy of it.”

Well Diane wasn't a Dingle and never had a problem with her co owners son living there, why the should a new co-owner It's Chas home if she wants her son who pays his own way to live there, the new owner can lump it. Living arrangements in ED are always a bit weird and wonderful and implausible. Why would it even be an issue?

Do you have a problem with Aaron living at home or something? It's perfectly normal for people in their early 20s to still live at home, I did when I was Aaron's age (I paid my own way) unfortunately with the current government's bedroom tax and other cuts many don't have a choice.

Does Aaron strike anyone as the type of person to free load of his mum? I always take it as a given he pays his way and helps with the mortgage. Apart form anything else he is a Dingle, Dingle rule 101 "pay your share, everyone puts into the pot" we saw Aaron being given this lesson by Zak and Lisa years ago.
Andy_Marlowe
31-08-2016
I doubt that Chas could touch Aaron or Liv's money, since any withdrawals for a minor would have to be signed off by both Aaron and Chas, and of course, if it was Aaron's share he would have to give permission for it to be assigned. Given the economic state of public houses these days I doubt that even the Woolpack would be seen as a good investment for a 14 year old.
Andy_Marlowe
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by WhatYouGonnaDo?:
“Well Diane wasn't a Dingle and never had a problem with her co owners son living there, why the should a new co-owner It's Chas home if she wants her son who pays his own way to live there, the new owner can lump it. Living arrangements in ED are always a bit weird and wonderful and implausible. Why would it even be an issue?

Do you have a problem with Aaron living at home or something? It's perfectly normal for people in their early 20s to still live at home, I did when I was Aaron's age (I paid my own way) unfortunately with the current government's bedroom tax and other cuts many don't have a choice.

Does Aaron strike anyone as the type of person to free load of his mum?
I always take it as a given he pays his way and helps with the mortgage. Apart form anything else he is a Dingle, Dingle rule 101 "pay your share, everyone puts into the pot" we saw Aaron being given this lesson by Zak and Lisa years ago.”

Definately not.
Randomguy83
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by sderr123:
“Well they have been on again off again. Which I thought was Robert's point in moving into the Woolpack and not into their own place. Unless something happens to make it more permenant.”

The point of that was to 'test the waters' (from the shows pov of course, in reality it's because there's not a lot of feasible home sets for them) before splashing cash on somewhere.
Lucie_Girard
31-08-2016
And if Liv agreed to let Chas have her money?

Impossible, I know

Just speculating.

Just tol et you know Jane Pearson wrote tonight episode
jane_isaac
31-08-2016
Could Frank buy into the pub? He hasn't got any money has he? With a criminal record he couldn't hold a license either.
Straight after Gordon's funeral Chas went into a private hospital with no explanation as to how she was going to pay for it. She remained there for 5 weeks and it would have cost a lot of money. That could be a debt she's keeping a secret.
As far as Gordon's money is concerned no one has mentioned that his house had been sold and Probate granted. He died in May and in real life that wouldn't be sorted in 3 months. So the money isn't available yet and a trust will have to be set up for Liv as she is a minor - goodness knows how Chas, the executor, will sort that out.
Moira has lost Pete and Andy who both worked for her. If James buys Wylies Farm, Moira will have no one left to help her. Maybe she will sell up and buy into the pub. Or maybe it's her who needs money to buy out James. (Can't really see her living in the pub with Charity )
WhatYouGonnaDo?
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by jane_isaac:
“Could Frank buy into the pub? He hasn't got any money has he? With a criminal record he couldn't hold a license either.
Straight after Gordon's funeral Chas went into a private hospital with no explanation as to how she was going to pay for it. She remained there for 5 weeks and it would have cost a lot of money. That could be a debt she's keeping a secret.
As far as Gordon's money is concerned no one has mentioned that his house had been sold and Probate granted. He died in May and in real life that wouldn't be sorted in 3 months. So the money isn't available yet and a trust will have to be set up for Liv as she is a minor - goodness knows how Chas, the executor, will sort that out.
Moira has lost Pete and Andy who both worked for her. If James buys Wylies Farm, Moira will have no one left to help her. Maybe she will sell up and buy into the pub. Or maybe it's her who needs money to buy out James. (Can't really see her living in the pub with Charity )”

Well both Charity and Chas have criminal records so in Emmerdale land I don't think that will stop him

I think he is pretty rich, I remember Vanessa complaining about him trying to buy her affection last year and when Rakesh left a huge pile of money on her doorstep for the baby Vanessa jumped to the conclusion it was Frank who had arranged for it to be left there and was furious with him.
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