Originally Posted by lon_chaney:
“Heavy D dosnt seem to have gone into his shell
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“Heavy D dosnt seem to have gone into his shell
”
Hes not normal
Hes a man child
Is Samantha the most ruthless HM?
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Originally Posted by ArwenEvenstar:
“Don't see how you consider her saying "Mine was art!" as aggressive in the slightest.”
“Don't see how you consider her saying "Mine was art!" as aggressive in the slightest.”
Not the words themselves... the harsh tone and the flash of anger in the eyes.
I've observed it a few times: a barely concealed rage that even Bear steers clear of.
Originally Posted by Wainy84:
“Good artists of the 80's have trouble reviving there careers never mind Sam who had no talent, plus no personality. Get over it Sam nobody cares or wants to listen to your dreadful so called pop music.
Go and get a proper job if you need a few quid to tide you over. You should of looked after your money abit more wisely seen as you have no talent.
Why do people think just because they was popular for a few years have the right
to make easy money and stay in the limelight for the entire life with zero talent.”
“Good artists of the 80's have trouble reviving there careers never mind Sam who had no talent, plus no personality. Get over it Sam nobody cares or wants to listen to your dreadful so called pop music.
Go and get a proper job if you need a few quid to tide you over. You should of looked after your money abit more wisely seen as you have no talent.
Why do people think just because they was popular for a few years have the right
to make easy money and stay in the limelight for the entire life with zero talent.”
I don't think she thinks she has the right to make easy money. I think her agent is filling her head with nonsense. The older celebs have to realise things change and peoples taste change with time. She is not a young person and it is harder to get anywhere as you age as you have to have something about you that will attract people to you in the first place.
She also is coming across as miserable and has done nothing to be liked IMO. She doesn't defend anyone in the house, she seems irritated over the slightest thing, she seems to have no opinion or loyalty to anyone it all seems to be me, myself and I. I really can't see how she thinks going in the BB house is all she has to do to kick start her career. There is nothing too her at all.
I don't think she's ruthless but I do think she's being very guarded & we're not seeing the 'real' Sam Fox.
Originally Posted by Heyyouoverthere:
“I don't think she thinks she has the right to make easy money. I think her agent is filling her head with nonsense. The older celebs have to realise things change and peoples taste change with time. She is not a young person and it is harder to get anywhere as you age as you have to have something about you that will attract people to you in the first place.
She also is coming across as miserable and has done nothing to be liked IMO. She doesn't defend anyone in the house, she seems irritated over the slightest thing, she seems to have no opinion or loyalty to anyone it all seems to be me, myself and I. I really can't see how she thinks going in the BB house is all she has to do to kick start her career. There is nothing too her at all.”
“I don't think she thinks she has the right to make easy money. I think her agent is filling her head with nonsense. The older celebs have to realise things change and peoples taste change with time. She is not a young person and it is harder to get anywhere as you age as you have to have something about you that will attract people to you in the first place.
She also is coming across as miserable and has done nothing to be liked IMO. She doesn't defend anyone in the house, she seems irritated over the slightest thing, she seems to have no opinion or loyalty to anyone it all seems to be me, myself and I. I really can't see how she thinks going in the BB house is all she has to do to kick start her career. There is nothing too her at all.”
I agree.
Originally Posted by little-monster:
“Some people are only disappointed in Sam Fox because they still think of her as the gobby drunk from a reality show she did like 19 years ago. Very silly to still think she is like that.”
“Some people are only disappointed in Sam Fox because they still think of her as the gobby drunk from a reality show she did like 19 years ago. Very silly to still think she is like that.”
It's not a case of being disappointed in whatever reality show she was in previously, it's just that she hasn't really done anything in the house. She's just flying under the radar and is just there to pick up a pay check with little effort.
She was probably given a very hefty appearance fee and is content to sit it out and collect it. From what i've seen all she does is sit with Ricky bemoaning Bear and Booms behaviour.
Originally Posted by radiofree:
“what i found interesting a few days ago was on the LF. Someone (James?) said something like 'Sam, you've sold 3 million records, you should be singing again' and sam's immediate reply was a brisk 'that's why i'm here mate!'. Nothing wrong with that but it revealed something -- a drive to reclaim a career which i'd say is long, long over.”
“what i found interesting a few days ago was on the LF. Someone (James?) said something like 'Sam, you've sold 3 million records, you should be singing again' and sam's immediate reply was a brisk 'that's why i'm here mate!'. Nothing wrong with that but it revealed something -- a drive to reclaim a career which i'd say is long, long over.”
She comes across as very very hard, reminds me a bit of Danniella Westbrook in that respect, both make it difficult to warm to them.
Originally Posted by little-monster:
“Some people are only disappointed in Sam Fox because they still think of her as the gobby drunk from a reality show she did like 19 years ago. Very silly to still think she is like that.”
“Some people are only disappointed in Sam Fox because they still think of her as the gobby drunk from a reality show she did like 19 years ago. Very silly to still think she is like that.”
It only 13 years ago
Originally Posted by cavalli:
“She comes across as very very hard, reminds me a bit of Danniella Westbrook in that respect, both make it difficult to warm to them.”
“She comes across as very very hard, reminds me a bit of Danniella Westbrook in that respect, both make it difficult to warm to them.”
she's not that bad surely, Daniella was almost as psychotic as Renee when she got going?
Originally Posted by ArwenEvenstar:
“Don't see how you consider her saying "Mine was art!" as aggressive in the slightest.”
“Don't see how you consider her saying "Mine was art!" as aggressive in the slightest.”
I agree, how on earth is THAT aggressive? The mind boggles.
Originally Posted by TomAce:
“It's a shame she said that line about page 3 being art.. she was doing so well until that point.”
“It's a shame she said that line about page 3 being art.. she was doing so well until that point.”
Chloe posted a past nude of Samantha when she was a teenager and got led into it by her dad! Unfortunately for Chloe it backfired on her as firstly she was asked to remove it and secondly she got a whole torrent of how beautiful Sam was and it was all natural !
Then pictures of Chloe were found nude in a much more lewd position! and it was the difference between beauty and porn !If Samantha was saying in her diplomatic way that hers was more art than porn after seeing Chloe with her legs open .It is art verses porn and it's beauty and the beast !
It's Sam's past she'd stopped by Chloes age!
Originally Posted by Annabel la:
“Chloe posted a past nude of Samantha when she was a teenager and got led into it by her dad! Unfortunately for Chloe it backfired on her as firstly she was asked to remove it and secondly she got a whole torrent of how beautiful Sam was and it was all natural !
Then pictures of Chloe were found nude in a much more lewd position! and it was the difference between beauty and porn !If Samantha was saying in her diplomatic way that hers was more art than porn after seeing Chloe with her legs open .It is art verses porn and it's beauty and the beast !
It's Sam's past she'd stopped by Chloes age!”
“Chloe posted a past nude of Samantha when she was a teenager and got led into it by her dad! Unfortunately for Chloe it backfired on her as firstly she was asked to remove it and secondly she got a whole torrent of how beautiful Sam was and it was all natural !
Then pictures of Chloe were found nude in a much more lewd position! and it was the difference between beauty and porn !If Samantha was saying in her diplomatic way that hers was more art than porn after seeing Chloe with her legs open .It is art verses porn and it's beauty and the beast !
It's Sam's past she'd stopped by Chloes age!”
Its showing your boobs for money. Sam's career before she embarked on her tone deaf journey was using her body to make cash. Lets call a spade a spade, standing with your boobs in your hands and thrusting out your navel and ass is not art. Its provocative posing to give men the horn. All Sam's pics were probably on a wipe clean surface. Even her songs were on the same theme.
I found her comments funny and the only thing of note she has done in the house. She has a vicious temper. She has shown this on other shows and is obviously being fake in this one.
Originally Posted by Annabel la:
“Chloe posted a past nude of Samantha when she was a teenager and got led into it by her dad! Unfortunately for Chloe it backfired on her as firstly she was asked to remove it and secondly she got a whole torrent of how beautiful Sam was and it was all natural !
Then pictures of Chloe were found nude in a much more lewd position! and it was the difference between beauty and porn !If Samantha was saying in her diplomatic way that hers was more art than porn after seeing Chloe with her legs open .It is art verses porn and it's beauty and the beast !
It's Sam's past she'd stopped by Chloes age!”
“Chloe posted a past nude of Samantha when she was a teenager and got led into it by her dad! Unfortunately for Chloe it backfired on her as firstly she was asked to remove it and secondly she got a whole torrent of how beautiful Sam was and it was all natural !
Then pictures of Chloe were found nude in a much more lewd position! and it was the difference between beauty and porn !If Samantha was saying in her diplomatic way that hers was more art than porn after seeing Chloe with her legs open .It is art verses porn and it's beauty and the beast !
It's Sam's past she'd stopped by Chloes age!”
If you make soft porn, then someone else makes harder porn at a later date, it doesn't automatically render the soft porn as 'art'
... the Chloe argument isn't really relevant
Sam needs to own it, after all these years. Page 3 was made to titillate the 80s working classes and sell papers. It was w*nk fodder for teens and something to turn on the builders down the road. No big deal, but making it something else is delusional and will only bring negative attention.
Originally Posted by Aimee:
“I agree, how on earth is THAT aggressive? The mind boggles.”
“I agree, how on earth is THAT aggressive? The mind boggles.
”
As I said : The words themselves were not aggressive... It was the harsh tone and anger in the eyes.
I've observed it a few times: bitterness and a barely concealed rage.
I think she's just keeping her head down until she leaves, she's also learnt from her mistakes from that crappy show when she was pissed up, I really like Sam
Originally Posted by radiofree:
“what i found interesting a few days ago was on the LF. Someone (James?) said something like 'Sam, you've sold 3 million records, you should be singing again' and sam's immediate reply was a brisk 'that's why i'm here mate!'. Nothing wrong with that but it revealed something -- a drive to reclaim a career which i'd say is long, long over.”
“what i found interesting a few days ago was on the LF. Someone (James?) said something like 'Sam, you've sold 3 million records, you should be singing again' and sam's immediate reply was a brisk 'that's why i'm here mate!'. Nothing wrong with that but it revealed something -- a drive to reclaim a career which i'd say is long, long over.”
Isn't that true of most of the HM's.........they're all there to revive a flagging career.
Originally Posted by scatcatcathy:
“I think she's just keeping her head down until she leaves, she's also learnt from her mistakes from that crappy show when she was pissed up, I really like Sam”
“I think she's just keeping her head down until she leaves, she's also learnt from her mistakes from that crappy show when she was pissed up, I really like Sam”
Same
Plus I think her relationship with Myra allowed her to settle down and grow up a bit.
And another reason why she might be keeping her head down was because Myra wanted her to do the show but Sam put it off due to her illness. So she wants to do Myra proud.
The only nice thing ive seem Sam do the entire series is when they all got woken up to Brittany Spears "hit me baby one more time" and she was dancing and she hugged Bear , although it did cut away very abruptly so she may have kneed him in the bollox idk
Originally Posted by dirtyrat:
“She is not being herself at all. She has her eyes well and truely y on the prize .
Very cold very calculated .
Near the end when the big characters are gone she will start plan b and probably win it.
She is very Disappointing out of all of them I expected so much more .”
“She is not being herself at all. She has her eyes well and truely y on the prize .
Very cold very calculated .
Near the end when the big characters are gone she will start plan b and probably win it.
She is very Disappointing out of all of them I expected so much more .”
I've lost count of how many times I've seen somebody talking to her and she just sits there with a blank expression determined not to engage.
I find it kind of odd that Samantha struts around with this air of superiority when her claim to fame is essentially page 3. Not a lot to be proud of there. I do like Sam but she needs to be a bit more realistic.
I don't mind Sam. You could say she's flying under the radar and all that, but to call her 'ruthless' is a bit of a stretch, but look who it's coming from: Lewis is utterly, utterly stupid.
Perhaps living with noisy, erratic, unpredictable, drunk, provocative, bullying people makes you shut down. Anyone who has been in an abusive relationship would understand that, and someone mentioned that Sam was in an abusive relationship at some point, so ...
She's playing her cards very close to her well-preserved and (I believe) un-implanted breasts.
She's playing her cards very close to her well-preserved and (I believe) un-implanted breasts.
Sam Fox is clearly trying to win by boring us all to death with her keep quiet and stay under the radar routine.
Katie is an even bigger tedious game player. Remember her 'I see James as my biggest threat' remark in nominations? Hopeless the pair of them.
Bear and Heavy D may well be childish and irritating, but at least they are actively getting involved to some degree - even if it is very negatively. Can you imagine a CBB house containing just Sam Fox, Katie and Ricky? Most viewers would just switch over to something else and not bother with it.
Katie is an even bigger tedious game player. Remember her 'I see James as my biggest threat' remark in nominations? Hopeless the pair of them.
Bear and Heavy D may well be childish and irritating, but at least they are actively getting involved to some degree - even if it is very negatively. Can you imagine a CBB house containing just Sam Fox, Katie and Ricky? Most viewers would just switch over to something else and not bother with it.
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