Ahhh did you get the impression I liked Bear from the following quote


I do not like housemates because I identify with them, absolutely no way and I cannot think of one housemate in the past that I have enjoyed watching who I relate to.

can't stand fake happy clappy crap
life is not happy clappy b/s

gritty is interesting.

childrens tv is full of happy sh1t

People judge each other for anything and everything. We judge others on how they dress, what movies they enjoy, what foods they eat, what music they listen to. What they watch on television is just another thing that we, as humans, judge others by. If you say you wouldn't and have never judged someone on any of those things then you're judgemental AND a liar. Judging, after all, is how we make friends, relationships and bonds.

Happy isn't fake

Why are your generation so cynical and negative

Life doesn't have to be like that

Life can be happy and harmonious and fun

You choose to make it negative and unhappy

By the way Children's TV is BEAR throwing food

"Do you really like watching anxious and depressed, hmm?"


Well I'd prefer not to be, but they just drive me to the Prozac every time!

I would never and have never judged anyone on what they watch on television. I don't judge people by how they dress and certainly not what food they eat lmao

However I am judging you right now for your choice of wording because that comes directly from your personality.

Well precisely.

This thread is just a bit of a silly rant.

By all means, watch a show, hate it, and rant about it - but don't expect the entire viewership to agree with you.

Well clearly those that don't agree are antagonistic and childish

I suppose you haven't noticed the slight goading and tormenting edge to the OP?

Exactly!

Exactly.

Surely you should be lauding me and telling me I'm amazing and great entertainment. Or are you a hypocrite?

I think it's obvious that Bear knew that he was winding Renee up to the point where she lashed out verbally. I think he needs to stop winding Renee up to the extreme. I hope she tries to ignore his over the top antics. Bear seems a bit unstable to me. Doing things when you're very angry and as a reaction to being provoked, okay. No one, from what I saw, provoked Bear when he did that (olive oil in the garden).

I'm absolutely happy to judge people who think that Bear and others like him offer anything at all in the way of entertainment.

So, if you enjoy watching him and find his utter lack of empathy to be something you approve of, consider yourself judged by me.

They are not forced to be there, they are taking everything far too seriously. I'm sure it must be hard work and uncomfortable living with people like Bear but it is only a few weeks and they are getting paid a decent sum to do it so they should suck it up and get on with it.

I don't know why you would think Bear's behaviour is gritty. Not the word I would use, he's a pretty sad, sad, pathetic individual who needs help.

What I want to see is the BB of old, where the rules were fairly and consistently applied, where the tasks were fun and where the action was all about the changing dynamics between the housemates. The conflicts weren't so contrived and heavy handed and there was a lot of genuine enjoyment as well.

But those days are gone. I don't watch more than about one in four shows nowadays, I just can't BEAR this kind of BB, it's just disheartening tripe.

They are sucking it up and getting on with it. That's why they've retreated in to their shells which is why they're boring. Not sure why Bear fans have a hard time understanding this. He's made them boring.

There's no need for them to be anxious and depressed, it is such a short time to put up with and if it is really that terrible then they can leave at any time. I'm sure they could make more enjoyment out of the situation. I find it hard to feel sorry for them, a lot of people have to do really tough and stressful jobs to make a living.

My answer is yes and no, depending on who these "anxious and depressed" hm's are and what calibre of person I privately judge them to be.

Hence why I am enjoying the show at the moment.

Im enjoying the show , I find Bear entertaining.im not ashamed and im certainly not going to apologise for my personal taste.if Fat Boy and his dull cronies can't hack the gameplaying they know where the door is.

We always enjoy watching people suffer (bush tucker trials) but to enjoy watching people suffer this much on a TV show I find hard to understand. Thats Bears ethos, gain enjoyment from other peoples misery. I don't know why we cant just gain enjoyment from having fun without it adversely affecting someone else.

I see a lot of the issues on this board reflected in the house by both camps.

A lot of people like to 'get on' and keep their true feelings to themselves, others see this as being false and revel in the disruption of societal norms.

Trouble is Stephen Boar is not the most intelligent guy, there's no clever subversion, no skillful manipulation of people. He literally behaves like a toddler, a drunk, aggressive toddler who has no respect for any one else or their boundaries. He will do anything to get a rise and actually takes great pleasure in upsetting people (he can't hide the smirk sometimes).

'Famous' people have had to 'play the game' their whole lives, negotiating deals and building relationships, often with people they may dislike. It's how the world works and what people do to make the world go round. When confronted with someone like Boar they don't know what to do because all the norrmal tactics don't apply with him.

He has no conscience, no respect, no consideration and he simply doesn't care, all for the sake of 'being real'.

It's awful viewing and makes a terrible tv show in my opinion but I can at least understand that some people may be supporting him for 'being real' although I think he goes about it the wrong way.

I'm all for a bit of questioning the norms and disobedience but there's a way to go about it and behaving like an angry child ain't it buddy old boy.

The idiots are in the minority which means the others have a strong support network around them. So plenty of chances for a good moan. The sort of show that bugs me most is where one person is picked on and left isolated...now that is uncomfortable viewing. If anything the group dislike of the idiots has brought people together.... nothing like a common enemy. I don't like the idiots but it's OTT to give them more importance than they deserve.

Ok guys, I'm going to try and tread lightly here as I really don't want to burst any bubbles but...

You do realise that very little of CBB is actually real, right?

You get to see a tiny percent of what goes on, the HMs share agents, and they are there to advance their careers or increase their profiles. Half of them are Reality TV professionals, and BB has no interest in conducting anything resembling a social experiment - This show is now no different to MIC, TOWIE, Ex-on-the-beach etc.

For those of you thinking Bear is evil, or Renee is a saint or vice-versa it may be worth remembering...they are not real people, they are characters from TV shows.

I find it hard to believe some of the vitriol that gets aired on these forums, but unless they are also playing a character, these are the people that really need to get a grip.

Here here!