While this forum continues to give this idiot so much attention the producers will continue to cram him down our necks. Take a leaf out of the housemates book and ignore him. When it comes to WUMs he is small fry. The obsession with talking about him is ruining the forum.
Do you REALLY like watching ANXIOUS and DEPRESSED HM
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Originally Posted by jim_lyons:
“Ok.
I'm not actually talking about any housemate in particular - you assuming that I was in someway defending "him" may well be an instance of you projecting?
Also, they are simply not forced to do anything. Maybe they are coerced, but not forced.
Also, I don't understand where in the rules it says you must be pleasant to your housemates, or - it being a gameshow and all - where it states that you must not try and influence your rivals into walking out. Maybe it does?
Finally, I don't know what they get or don't get if they walk - do you?
PS - are most jobs paid by the hour? I'm interested to know the breakdown.”
“Ok.
I'm not actually talking about any housemate in particular - you assuming that I was in someway defending "him" may well be an instance of you projecting?
Also, they are simply not forced to do anything. Maybe they are coerced, but not forced.
Also, I don't understand where in the rules it says you must be pleasant to your housemates, or - it being a gameshow and all - where it states that you must not try and influence your rivals into walking out. Maybe it does?
Finally, I don't know what they get or don't get if they walk - do you?
PS - are most jobs paid by the hour? I'm interested to know the breakdown.”
I'm not sure you know what "projecting" means in a clinical sense.
After having spent the time that they have in there. Would you just walk with nothing having completely wasted your time? That's why I said a day rate might be the better option.
There's a difference between being pleasant, unpleasant, and what he's doing. There's a reason they've simply closed down and it's ugly.
I don't know what they get or don't get if they walk. I've read on this forum numerous times that they get nothing if they walk.
I don't have a breakdown. I also think you're being pedantic over my usage of the word "most". You'll have to try harder to get me to bite.
Originally Posted by Xuri:
“I'm not sure you know what "projecting" means in a clinical sense.
After having spent the time that they have in there. Would you just walk with nothing having completely wasted your time? That's why I said a day rate might be the better option.
There's a difference between being pleasant, unpleasant, and what he's doing. There's a reason they've simply closed down and it's ugly.
I don't know what they get or don't get if they walk. I've read on this forum numerous times that they get nothing if they walk.
I don't have a breakdown. I also think you're being pedantic over my usage of the word "most". You'll have to try harder to get me to bite.”
“I'm not sure you know what "projecting" means in a clinical sense.
After having spent the time that they have in there. Would you just walk with nothing having completely wasted your time? That's why I said a day rate might be the better option.
There's a difference between being pleasant, unpleasant, and what he's doing. There's a reason they've simply closed down and it's ugly.
I don't know what they get or don't get if they walk. I've read on this forum numerous times that they get nothing if they walk.
I don't have a breakdown. I also think you're being pedantic over my usage of the word "most". You'll have to try harder to get me to bite.”
Yeah, 'cos "most" wasn't a very important part of what you stated. Just as they aren't forced to be in there, you weren't forced to say that - you did, i asked a question. Simple,
If you honestly think that is baiting, then I suddenly realise why you are so wound up by this series of CBB.
Originally Posted by jim_lyons:
“Ok guys, I'm going to try and tread lightly here as I really don't want to burst any bubbles but...
You do realise that very little of CBB is actually real, right?
You get to see a tiny percent of what goes on, the HMs share agents, and they are there to advance their careers or increase their profiles. Half of them are Reality TV professionals, and BB has no interest in conducting anything resembling a social experiment - This show is now no different to MIC, TOWIE, Ex-on-the-beach etc.
For those of you thinking Bear is evil, or Renee is a saint or vice-versa it may be worth remembering...they are not real people, they are characters from TV shows.
I find it hard to believe some of the vitriol that gets aired on these forums, but unless they are also playing a character, these are the people that really need to get a grip.”
“Ok guys, I'm going to try and tread lightly here as I really don't want to burst any bubbles but...
You do realise that very little of CBB is actually real, right?
You get to see a tiny percent of what goes on, the HMs share agents, and they are there to advance their careers or increase their profiles. Half of them are Reality TV professionals, and BB has no interest in conducting anything resembling a social experiment - This show is now no different to MIC, TOWIE, Ex-on-the-beach etc.
For those of you thinking Bear is evil, or Renee is a saint or vice-versa it may be worth remembering...they are not real people, they are characters from TV shows.
I find it hard to believe some of the vitriol that gets aired on these forums, but unless they are also playing a character, these are the people that really need to get a grip.”
Exactly ......It's all a load of scripted Shite like you say they are all just playing up to the Characters they've been given
Originally Posted by jim_lyons:
“Yeah, 'cos "most" wasn't a very important part of what you stated. Just as they aren't forced to be in there, you weren't forced to say that - you did, i asked a question. Simple,
If you honestly think that is baiting, then I suddenly realise why you are so wound up by this series of CBB.”
“Yeah, 'cos "most" wasn't a very important part of what you stated. Just as they aren't forced to be in there, you weren't forced to say that - you did, i asked a question. Simple,
If you honestly think that is baiting, then I suddenly realise why you are so wound up by this series of CBB.”
I'm not wound up by this season.
You picked up on a word that's often used in a hyperbolic manner. It really wasn't an important part of what I posted. I suppose around you I should choose my words more carefully. How about "A lot of jobs are paid per-hour.". Is that better for you?
Again, you seem to be misunderstanding. I'm saying that if you've been in there as long as you have you wouldn't leave and forfeit the fee because then it would have all been for nothing. The fee is, initially, an incentive to go in. But the longer you stay in the more it becomes a weight around your neck. Especially if you really don't want to be in there anymore. So saying "they can just leave" is a little unfair. I can see someone disagreeing with that but not understanding it leaves me a little perplexed.
Originally Posted by minxymoo:
“Im enjoying the show , I find Bear entertaining.im not ashamed and im certainly not going to apologise for my personal taste.if Fat Boy and his dull cronies can't hack the gameplaying they know where the door is.”
“Im enjoying the show , I find Bear entertaining.im not ashamed and im certainly not going to apologise for my personal taste.if Fat Boy and his dull cronies can't hack the gameplaying they know where the door is.”
why should they be chased out because their dull? Do you not feel they have rights to do them? They're not hurting anyone.
Originally Posted by wotnot:
“BIB - and not just aimed at the housemates either, I have been called judgmental, liar, delusional, an alien and a Bear enabler so far today. Just another day on the DS forums... lol
Thankfully I am confident and I know that I am none of those things and I am able to hold my own but I would hate to see these armchair warriors do the same to someone less able to brush off the spiteful remarks.”
“BIB - and not just aimed at the housemates either, I have been called judgmental, liar, delusional, an alien and a Bear enabler so far today. Just another day on the DS forums... lol
Thankfully I am confident and I know that I am none of those things and I am able to hold my own but I would hate to see these armchair warriors do the same to someone less able to brush off the spiteful remarks.”
Come now, you're hardly a shrinking violet yourself
I say this with lurve and not to insult you as a fourm member
Originally Posted by minxymoo:
“Im enjoying the show , I find Bear entertaining.im not ashamed and im certainly not going to apologise for my personal taste.if Fat Boy and his dull cronies can't hack the gameplaying they know where the door is.”
“Im enjoying the show , I find Bear entertaining.im not ashamed and im certainly not going to apologise for my personal taste.if Fat Boy and his dull cronies can't hack the gameplaying they know where the door is.”
Why should they leave because they are being tormented and goaded by a sick manchild
He should be booted out on his ugly ar*e. He gets more repellent by the days.
oh and nobody has asked you to apologise for your questionable taste.
Originally Posted by wotnot:
“I am able to hold my own but I would hate to see these armchair warriors do the same to someone less able to brush off the spiteful remarks.”
“I am able to hold my own but I would hate to see these armchair warriors do the same to someone less able to brush off the spiteful remarks.”
Originally Posted by Scarlett Berry:
“Come now, you're hardly a shrinking violet yourself I say this with lurve and not to insult you as a fourm member”
“Come now, you're hardly a shrinking violet yourself
I say this with lurve and not to insult you as a fourm member”
You won't catch me insulting other forum members just because they disagree with me or making personal remarks and even when I am snipey, it will be in response to someone else's snipe because in general I am an angel
Originally Posted by Menk:
“Good for you. There is an overriding general opinion that 'if you don't detest Bear then you are against us, and must be just like him and thick' on these boards at the moment. It's nice to see a different opinion.
”
“Good for you. There is an overriding general opinion that 'if you don't detest Bear then you are against us, and must be just like him and thick' on these boards at the moment. It's nice to see a different opinion.
”
Thanks.im neither thick under 25 or chavvy.or whatever people have decided Bear fans are like.there are a number of us on here who support him and think he's a great HM and making the show..anyone who 'detests'a reality show contestant needs to take a good long hard look at their life .to qoute Betty Rizzo ' some people are so touchy ' .
Originally Posted by wotnot:
“You won't catch me insulting other forum members just because they disagree with me or making personal remarks and even when I am snipey, it will be in response to someone else's snipe because in general I am an angel”
“You won't catch me insulting other forum members just because they disagree with me or making personal remarks and even when I am snipey, it will be in response to someone else's snipe because in general I am an angel
”
In sheeps clothing
Originally Posted by jim_lyons:
“
I find it hard to believe some of the vitriol that gets aired on these forums, but unless they are also playing a character, these are the people that really need to get a grip.”
“
I find it hard to believe some of the vitriol that gets aired on these forums, but unless they are also playing a character, these are the people that really need to get a grip.”
Agreed 100%
I am hating this holier than thou attitude from some on here, simply because some FMs happen to like Bear.
Half the current house are happy to take their fees and wait, Sam Fox comes to mind. Some of the others are scared stiff of Renee who is a true fake and tried to encourage scripted behaviour before the start of the show. Bear is not scared of anyone and has no friends in there (whatever Lewis Bore thinks), he's a one man band and I think he's been a great HM and will be supporting him for the win.
Personally, I think the presence of the squad has been hugely detrimental to the show. A large chunk of the housemates are just utterly exhausted by living with them. Difficult personalities aside, these people aren't even civilised in company.
I think if Bear had been there on his own then he'd have been marginally better but he went in with friendships established prior to the show and, in addition, has found a moronic enabler in Heavy D who not only encourages him but joins in which makes them compete for who can be the most obnoxious.
Shows like GS, EOTB etc., thrive on the terrible behaviour because ALL participants are like that. I've said it before that these people wouldn't get away with this behaviour in any other sphere. All that has happened in this CBB is the overbearing obnoxiousness and anti-social actions of a few have just made for a miserable, stifled and suffocated house. Shame.
I think if Bear had been there on his own then he'd have been marginally better but he went in with friendships established prior to the show and, in addition, has found a moronic enabler in Heavy D who not only encourages him but joins in which makes them compete for who can be the most obnoxious.
Shows like GS, EOTB etc., thrive on the terrible behaviour because ALL participants are like that. I've said it before that these people wouldn't get away with this behaviour in any other sphere. All that has happened in this CBB is the overbearing obnoxiousness and anti-social actions of a few have just made for a miserable, stifled and suffocated house. Shame.
Originally Posted by Scarlett Berry:
“In sheeps clothing”
“In sheeps clothing
”
Wow I really did pee you off by pulling you up on that post this morning didn't I. That was hours ago now, let it go
Originally Posted by Damon_Plembury:
“I've wanted to see Sam Fox in that house for years”
“I've wanted to see Sam Fox in that house for years”
Why?
BB manipulates it into a rule breaking house though, they encourage splits in the house through tasks and no doubt what they say in the DR to people. So if you don't like it, and many get bored of it, then blame the producers.
This bb is a hundred times better than the last one which was a borefest
What we need is a house of 12 bears 😁
What we need is a house of 12 bears 😁
Originally Posted by dirtyrat:
“This bb is a hundred times better than the last one which was a borefest
What we need is a house of 12 bears 😁”
“This bb is a hundred times better than the last one which was a borefest
What we need is a house of 12 bears 😁”
now that would definitely be like a zoo
Originally Posted by Damon_Plembury:
“Another stock answer
Why should I, a fan of 16 years whose watched all 40 odd series
Switch off because the brain dead moronic youth have taken over?”
“Another stock answer
Why should I, a fan of 16 years whose watched all 40 odd series
Switch off because the brain dead moronic youth have taken over?”
Well said. I'm sick of people saying don't watch then. Idiots have taken over both the house and the production and all people can say is don't watch then. I don't like being told what I can and can't watch and if a programme I've loved since series one has been ruined I can pass comment without being dismissed
I think it's a shame people find Bears behaviour fun. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I see Bear as very similar to the online trolls. Bullying people but never enough so it's punishable or they could get into trouble and all passed off as a joke. Shirking any responsibility for their actions and treating people as faceless and not thinking about how it affects people.
What is even sadder is Big Brother is giving him a forum to do this and gain support to encourage his behaviour.
What is even sadder is Big Brother is giving him a forum to do this and gain support to encourage his behaviour.
Originally Posted by Damon_Plembury:
“Mate that type of behaviour is not acceptable in ANY circumstance
Even for a TV show
It's not entertaining
It's ugly and crass and sociopathic”
“Mate that type of behaviour is not acceptable in ANY circumstance
Even for a TV show
It's not entertaining
It's ugly and crass and sociopathic”
Exactly, it's become, so boring, crass and unacceptable! I really have had enough, how anybody can say that this is entertainment is bonkers!
Originally Posted by Hamish Mancini:
“Personally, I think the presence of the squad has been hugely detrimental to the show. A large chunk of the housemates are just utterly exhausted by living with them. Difficult personalities aside, these people aren't even civilised in company.
I think if Bear had been there on his own then he'd have been marginally better but he went in with friendships established prior to the show and, in addition, has found a moronic enabler in Heavy D who not only encourages him but joins in which makes them compete for who can be the most obnoxious.
Shows like GS, EOTB etc., thrive on the terrible behaviour because ALL participants are like that. I've said it before that these people wouldn't get away with this behaviour in any other sphere. All that has happened in this CBB is the overbearing obnoxiousness and anti-social actions of a few have just made for a miserable, stifled and suffocated house. Shame.”
“Personally, I think the presence of the squad has been hugely detrimental to the show. A large chunk of the housemates are just utterly exhausted by living with them. Difficult personalities aside, these people aren't even civilised in company.
I think if Bear had been there on his own then he'd have been marginally better but he went in with friendships established prior to the show and, in addition, has found a moronic enabler in Heavy D who not only encourages him but joins in which makes them compete for who can be the most obnoxious.
Shows like GS, EOTB etc., thrive on the terrible behaviour because ALL participants are like that. I've said it before that these people wouldn't get away with this behaviour in any other sphere. All that has happened in this CBB is the overbearing obnoxiousness and anti-social actions of a few have just made for a miserable, stifled and suffocated house. Shame.
”
I totally agree, Bear, Heavy, Lewis and Marnie have ruined the whole experience for the rest of the contestants, it must be an utter nightmare living with them and just so depressing!
One thing for sure is what other Celebs will ever want to go on the show after this year!
Originally Posted by Hamish Mancini:
“Personally, I think the presence of the squad has been hugely detrimental to the show. A large chunk of the housemates are just utterly exhausted by living with them. Difficult personalities aside, these people aren't even civilised in company.
I think if Bear had been there on his own then he'd have been marginally better but he went in with friendships established prior to the show and, in addition, has found a moronic enabler in Heavy D who not only encourages him but joins in which makes them compete for who can be the most obnoxious.
Shows like GS, EOTB etc., thrive on the terrible behaviour because ALL participants are like that. I've said it before that these people wouldn't get away with this behaviour in any other sphere. All that has happened in this CBB is the overbearing obnoxiousness and anti-social actions of a few have just made for a miserable, stifled and suffocated house. Shame.”
“Personally, I think the presence of the squad has been hugely detrimental to the show. A large chunk of the housemates are just utterly exhausted by living with them. Difficult personalities aside, these people aren't even civilised in company.
I think if Bear had been there on his own then he'd have been marginally better but he went in with friendships established prior to the show and, in addition, has found a moronic enabler in Heavy D who not only encourages him but joins in which makes them compete for who can be the most obnoxious.
Shows like GS, EOTB etc., thrive on the terrible behaviour because ALL participants are like that. I've said it before that these people wouldn't get away with this behaviour in any other sphere. All that has happened in this CBB is the overbearing obnoxiousness and anti-social actions of a few have just made for a miserable, stifled and suffocated house. Shame.
”
Totally agree, if having Bear constantly behaving like a troubled child, you have the other idiot Heavy joining in as well. I find it exhausting to watch, can't imagine what it must be like to live with it.
I want to know exactly how much more leeway BB is going to give them before one of them gets chucked out. You get the impression with Bear, he is not only pushing the other HM's to their limits, but BB as well.
I don't & yet Channel 5 thinks that I do, BB are trying to get people talking by showing this !£$%head every night but little do they know they are driving more people away then drawing in
Originally Posted by Damon_Plembury:
“Someone who finds obnoxious, volitile, sociopathic, vindictive and childish behaviour entertaining
Must also attribute some of those qualities to themselves
We like housemates we identify with
If you like Bear then you identify with him
And if you identify with him then there's nothing down for you”
“Someone who finds obnoxious, volitile, sociopathic, vindictive and childish behaviour entertaining
Must also attribute some of those qualities to themselves
We like housemates we identify with
If you like Bear then you identify with him
And if you identify with him then there's nothing down for you”
You like Frankie, Frankie joked about raping another HM, does that make your sense of humor the same as Frankies?
Would you joke about raping someone?
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