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We are missing out on potentially LEGENDERY housemates =[=[=[
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Damon_Plembury
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by wotnot:
“I can't possibly enable his behavior as I am not in the house.

I am not challenging his supporters because they have the right to support whoever they wish and the point of this forum is to discuss the show, not the other forum members. If I see a post I disagree with, I will give my view but I am not going to try to force others to my way of thinking.”

You are enabling people to support his behaviour.

You're as bad as his supporters
wotnot
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by Damon_Plembury:
“You are enabling people to support his behaviour.

You're as bad as his supporters”

You are hilarious
Damon_Plembury
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by wotnot:
“You are hilarious ”

And now you're mocking.

What aren't you getting?
wotnot
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by Damon_Plembury:
“And now you're mocking.

What aren't you getting?”

Any sense from this this discussion.

If I don't agree with you, I am wrong and I do actually find it hilarious that anyone could think that just because I respect the opinions of other posters then I am enabling Bear's supporters to enable his behaviour. Do you genuinely think that makes any sense?
Ms Ann Thrope
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by Damon_Plembury:
“You are enabling people to support his behaviour.

You're as bad as his supporters”

Take no notice Damon, he's goading you.

There's no point in going down this route, BB is not the show it was, it's now trash that's firmly aimed at the scripted reality TV audience and red top readers.

If you want to carry on watching you just have to accept that it's changed, or do as I have done and ditch it.
Damon_Plembury
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by wotnot:
“Any sense from this this discussion.

If I don't agree with you, I am wrong and I do actually find it hilarious that anyone could think that just because I respect the opinions of other posters then I am enabling Bear's supporters to enable his behaviour. Do you genuinely think that makes any sense?”

Its not about agreeing with me.

You are saying its ok for people to support housemates like Bear when it absolutely isn't. It encourages other people to say its ok

I don't care that you don't agree with me, you won't anyway.

What i do care about is that you thinks its ok for people to support degenerative behaviour

Supporters of Bear don't deserve respect

Its a poor reflection on you
wotnot
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by Damon_Plembury:
“Its not about agreeing with me.

You are saying its ok for people to support housemates like Bear when it absolutely isn't. It encourages other people to say its ok

I don't care that you don't agree with me, you won't anyway.

What i do care about is that you thinks its ok for people to support degenerative behaviour

Supporters of Bear don't deserve respect

Its a poor reflection on you”

Of course it is ok for people to support whoever they want, the minute we stifle the views of others or judge them for what they deem as entertaining is when the world becomes a very sad and boring place. I would absolutely agree with you if the HM in question was promoting genuinely harmful behavior like racism/homophobia/sexism or violence and I have made my views clear on this forum in this and other threads by saying I hate his type of person but that is just my point of view and I don't believe in inflicting that upon others. If I can help someone see another view with reasoned conversation or debate then so be it but I won't stoop to browbeating or calling names or being insulting to force my views on anyone.

I am dismayed that you feel that anyone is not deserving of respect over such a petty matter
Damon_Plembury
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by wotnot:
“Of course it is ok for people to support whoever they want, the minute we stifle the views of others or judge them for what they deem as entertaining is when the world becomes a very sad and boring place. I would absolutely agree with you if the HM in question was promoting genuinely harmful behavior like racism/homophobia/sexism or violence and I have made my views clear on this forum in this and other threads by saying I hate his type of person but that is just my point of view and I don't believe in inflicting that upon others. If I can help someone see another view with reasoned conversation or debate then so be it but I won't stoop to browbeating or calling names or being insulting to force my views on anyone.

I am dismayed that you feel that anyone is not deserving of respect over such a petty matter ”

Why should we respect those who condone antisocial and degenerative behaviour. Its a poison to society. It offers nothing but misery
SAFC_Derry
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by Damon_Plembury:
“Why should we respect those who condone antisocial and degenerative behaviour. Its a poison to society. It offers nothing but misery”

Have to agree, but we also have to respect freedom of speech (within reason). TBH we all know Bear is a coward who hides behind the safety of the show as in the real world he more than likely would have been beaten to pulp. No one likes seeing a person antagonise someone to breaking point then take no responsibility for the response they get. BB should be contolling this but I think the show has got so tacky now the only thing left is physical violence. The other HMs also need to take some responsibility, they should be backing Reene up or failing that don't feed the troll, ignore him. Like Katie Hopkins he needs the reaction to get off, he can't stand not being the centre of attention. Apart from his obvious issues he comes across as low in self esteem hence all the masks.

The HMs should have walked out when they threatened to, you could see with the reaction from Lewis this would of been disastrous for them and the show.
fredster
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by Damon_Plembury:
“The editing of this show now has gone beyond irritating to just plain offensive now

Why bother hiring 15 housemates if you're just going to show 3-4 of them

I have wanted to see Sam Fox in there for years but she's been completely edited out in favour of an obnoxious man child who wastes good, antagonises people and is very very loud

They're feeding you this 'oh my god bears so entertaining, look at what he's doing now' bullshit and you are eating it up

By your own standards this year, legendary housemates like Brian and Nikki wouldn't have got a look in, they too would have been edited out and you would have deemed them boring

We are missing out on potentially legendary housemates because you all think the psychotic man child is hilarious

Bear is stifling other housemates

They're not wanting to engage

It's probably draining them

We're not seeing many tasks, we're not seeing any fun stuff

Just depressed and drained housemates cleaning up after the sociopathic children

REAL celebs will not touch this with a barge pole anymore, what is the point of they're going to be edited out in favour of reality stars in their element, faking every single emotion”

SAMs Mother made a comment to Rylan on the phone last night about not seeing Sam.
willywonker
15-08-2016
Even though BB are promoting Bear and co, If they did show a lot more of the others, I can't see how any one them would end up as legendary.

Personally I get the feeling the majority want a nice quiet house where they can plod around, sit and have nice chats about life and coast to the end.
GordonGordon
15-08-2016
Bear IS a legendary housemate though, I think he's brilliant. I originally disliked him but now I want him to win and will be supporting him until the end. The man has gone in there with "real" celebrities and not given them the respect they demand, he's doing as he pleases. Without Bear there is no show.

I don't go in for this cringeworthy "team squad" bollocks because Lewis and Marnie bore me to tears and I want them out but Bear is different, he gives that pair no respect either. Sam Fox just wants to sit back and collect her fee, her Ricky and Katie have offered nothing.

In short, Bear to win.
DanShadwell
15-08-2016
James Whale aside, how on earth anyone could find something legendary in the other housemates is beyond me.
v0id
15-08-2016
Perhaps they're not showing much footage of Sam Fox, because she's being as boring as she was in I'm a celebrity....
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