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BB - A reflection of todays society?
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gjc
15-08-2016
To all those who still condone Bear's behaviour....

Would you tolerate the same behaviour if it were happening in YOUR home?

While a "prank" can be funny, continued behaviour of this type is NOT.
The fact that it is the same act over and over is boring.

The other HM's seem to scared to deal with him due to fear of some sort of personal retaliation or being told off themselves by BB.

I have been brought up to be respectful of others.
If you were told off for doing something wrong you apologised & moved on.
You were even given a "clip round the ear" if you answered back.

These days you are spat at (if you are lucky) for trying to tell someone off.
As for giving someone a "clip round the ear", they are likely to successfully sue you for assault.

People's condoning of Bear's lack of respect for others & property is setting a bad precedent.

If this kind of behaviour is allowed to proliferate, what does our future hold?

Is the next "Reality TV" show likely to resemble "The Purge" ?
Badabing1966
15-08-2016
That is the sad state of society today unfortunately, it's no respect, keep looking down at your phone whilst walking into others, the world owes me a living, I want to be a no talent reality person f£"$wit.
Helen567
15-08-2016
I think as long as there is a demand then there will be someone to supply it. The reality tv culture has made talentless fame hungry people relevant, and more worryingly something to aspire to become. Thankfully after watching the Olympics its clear that cbb is not a true reflection of young people, there are many talented, motivated people out there who are truly inspirational.
Angela_Davies
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by Badabing1966:
“That is the sad state of society today unfortunately, it's no respect, keep looking down at your phone whilst walking into others, the world owes me a living, I want to be a no talent reality person f£"$wit.”

Have to agree to a certain extent. It's also a sign of over produced/manufactured reality tv. The original BBs seemed to evolve naturally with the aid of some tasks etc (or so it seems?). Now it is very manipulated with regard to editing and the viewers. I'd like to see more funny tasks etc., the shopping be restricted i.e. less alcohol etc.

Did Bear say he had £50 to spend? So is that £50 per housemate? That is a huge budget. They need to be living in a little less luxury.

Hopefully BB Is just lulling them into a false sense of security and they are due for a big shake up!
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UncleManifestor
15-08-2016
Personally I like to think that this 'C'BB (and other reality nonsense) is akin to catching a child smoking a cigarette and then forcing them to smoke the rest of the carton. Give lovers of reality TV a massive dose of the worst viewing possible, the most detestable, moronic and unlikable 'stars' imaginable.

My theory being that this current overdose of reality 'stars' (and reality programmes) is the last step before televisual rehab.
wotnot
15-08-2016
If someone can become famous for having sex on tv or being argumentative or goading or acting loutish, it gives them a sense of entitlement and they cease to respect others who have earned their fame. It is up to us viewers to become more discerning in our viewing habits and end their reign.
M_J2
15-08-2016
BB is not a real reflection of society...

TV sends out a distorted unbalanaced version of society...

News papers "red tops" do not show a great balanced refelction of society...

Looking back, society was not really "all that" in the 80's and further back neither...

If you do not like what society has become look in the mirror as you contrbuted to it...
BabelBrook
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by M_J2:
“BB is not a real reflection of society...

TV sends out a distorted unbalanaced version of society...

News papers "red tops" do not show a great balanced refelction of society...

Looking back, society was not really "all that" in the 80's and further back neither...

If you do not like what society has become look in the mirror as you contrbuted to it...”

As long as we can produce the Max Whitlocks (23), Laura Trotts (24), Jason Kennys (28) etc I guess we have to put up with the odd tw*ats like Stephen Bear (26). I just hope the majority of today's younger generation are more likely to look to the former group for their role models.
Angela_Davies
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by BabelBrook:
“As long as we can produce the Max Whitlocks (23), Laura Trotts (24), Jason Kennys (28) etc I guess we have to put up with the odd tw*ats like Stephen Bear (26). I just hope the majority of today's younger generation are more likely to look to the former group for their role models.”

Well said. Fingers crossed xxxx 😃
heresitting
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by BabelBrook:
“As long as we can produce the Max Whitlocks (23), Laura Trotts (24), Jason Kennys (28) etc I guess we have to put up with the odd tw*ats like Stephen Bear (26). I just hope the majority of today's younger generation are more likely to look to the former group for their role models.”

The issue is though, that for all those who do shine at the Olympics, there are many, many others who receive no recognition for all their hard work...

Now indulge me in a most tenuous connection but I think a similar case can be made for "working hard". When I was growing up it was always drummed in me that if you worked hard (exams, employment) you'd be rewarded... I think today's generation have seen straight through that one. There is huge competition for jobs which means today's employers can force down wages and apply regressive employment conditions (zero hours and the like) ... it doesn't matter how hard you work, you are utterly replaceable.

Take someone like Lateysha - not a single qualification to her name - so the most likely outcome for her would be minimum wage and a lifetime of budgeting. But, if she sells her soul to reality TV and makes a fool of herself for a few years she could literally earn more than she would have in decades outside in the real world.

I find Bear abhorrent, but in a few years will any of us really remember him... but he may have earned enough money during this mad period to set himself up for life (house etc).

That's why they do it.
M_J2
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by heresitting:
“The issue is though, that for all those who do shine at the Olympics, there are many, many others who receive no recognition for all their hard work...

Now indulge me in a most tenuous connection but I think a similar case can be made for "working hard". When I was growing up it was always drummed in me that if you worked hard (exams, employment) you'd be rewarded... I think today's generation have seen straight through that one. There is huge competition for jobs which means today's employers can force down wages and apply regressive employment conditions (zero hours and the like) ... it doesn't matter how hard you work, you are utterly replaceable.

Take someone like Lateysha - not a single qualification to her name - so the most likely outcome for her would be minimum wage and a lifetime of budgeting. But, if she sells her soul to reality TV and makes a fool of herself for a few years she could literally earn more than she would have in decades outside in the real world.

I find Bear abhorrent, but in a few years will any of us really remember him... but he may have earned enough money during this mad period to set himself up for life (house etc).

That's why they do it.”

exactly that...wish i could of put it like that.
Lee_Bo
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by gjc:
“To all those who still condone Bear's behaviour....

Would you tolerate the same behaviour if it were happening in YOUR home?

While a "prank" can be funny, continued behaviour of this type is NOT.
The fact that it is the same act over and over is boring.

The other HM's seem to scared to deal with him due to fear of some sort of personal retaliation or being told off themselves by BB.

I have been brought up to be respectful of others.
If you were told off for doing something wrong you apologised & moved on.
You were even given a "clip round the ear" if you answered back.

These days you are spat at (if you are lucky) for trying to tell someone off.
As for giving someone a "clip round the ear", they are likely to successfully sue you for assault.

People's condoning of Bear's lack of respect for others & property is setting a bad precedent.

If this kind of behaviour is allowed to proliferate, what does our future hold?

Is the next "Reality TV" show likely to resemble "The Purge" ?”

Imagine you advertise for a flat mate and the person who ended up moving in was Stephen. Shouting at you, winding you up, feigning ignorance, pouring your food everywhere, getting drunk, climbing over and breaking the furniture, throwing things and breaking a mirror etc, etc, etc.
How do people think that would pan out in the real world?

No one should have to tolerate that kind of behaviour, it is totally unacceptable yet BB facilitate exactly this, all day, every day and everyone has to do the best they can without going insane.

It's beyond a joke and it doesn't make good tv.
M_J2
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by Lee_Bo:
“Imagine you advertise for a flat mate and the person who ended up moving in was Stephen. Shouting at you, winding you up, feigning ignorance, pouring your food everywhere, getting drunk, climbing over and breaking the furniture, throwing things and breaking a mirror etc, etc, etc.
How do people think that would pan out in the real world?

No one should have to tolerate that kind of behaviour, it is totally unacceptable yet BB facilitate exactly this, all day, every day and everyone has to do the best they can without going insane.

It's beyond a joke and it doesn't make good tv.”

Real life and BB are two different things. If all those in the house are feeling like he is "too much" you would think they would all work out on mass or have a word with the production team??? they are not stuck in there. No it's not good TV but tv is no stranger to making the most out of some uncomfortable situations for many years.
CLL Dodge
15-08-2016
It's a game show, not a microcosm of society.

The conditions are artificial, the selection of housemates designed to create contrasts and conflicts and BB goads them into doing stuff so that they can create a soap opera out of it.

It has always been done that way, right since BB1. The biggest change is in the number of housemates squeezed into the house, which exaggerates the conflicts.
Playamonte
15-08-2016
Guess it must be a reflection otherwise the village idiot would be out, or favorite to go tomorrow so it must follow that the voting public do want to see more of this shite.
Glinny
15-08-2016
Cannot believe that the producers condone this behaviour unless it is as I think all set up.
ShadowTillNow
15-08-2016
I don't think the people you see on BB are at all a reflection of society or of today's youth. They are just a reflection of the want to be famous type that flock to reality TV shows. I rarely meet people like any of them in my life. Trashbag TV attracts quite a lot of trashbags.
dirtyrat
15-08-2016
When will people understand this is big brother not your house not their house it's a make believe house filled with celebs who are earning a fortune for doing nothing .
Why take it so seriously
These people are hasbeens or wannabes they are not society .
Watch enjoy the madness for its just a entertainment game show nothing more
puddytat
15-08-2016
Eventually they will become middle aged, and the young ones will treat them with the same lack of thought and respect that they're guilty of today. They'll lose their looks, their bodies won't attract the same attention, their priorities will change and hopefully they'll cringe when they think back to their time in BB. And I'll laugh if I'm still around.
Salv*
15-08-2016
No way.

The majority of the current hms are of a type. I'm 23 and me and my group of friends love to have a laugh and drink but we are not idiots. That's what most 20 year olds are like...pleasant, friendly etc... but those types are not going to go on reality.
willywonker
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by CLL Dodge:
“It's a game show, not a microcosm of society.

The conditions are artificial, the selection of housemates designed to create contrasts and conflicts and BB goads them into doing stuff so that they can create a soap opera out of it.

It has always been done that way, right since BB1. The biggest change is in the number of housemates squeezed into the house, which exaggerates the conflicts.”

This...
Damon_Plembury
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by dirtyrat:
“When will people understand this is big brother not your house not their house it's a make believe house filled with celebs who are earning a fortune for doing nothing .
Why take it so seriously
These people are hasbeens or wannabes they are not society .
Watch enjoy the madness for its just a entertainment game show nothing more”

BECAUSE ITS A ****ING DISGRACE.

Im getting so so angry at people saying 'its a game show' 'Its Big Brother'

That doesn't give anyone a free pass to disrespect other housemates

You all seem to love anarchy and its turning BB into a stressful experience. I legit cannot take this show or its child fans anymore
dirtyrat
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by puddytat:
“Eventually they will become middle aged, and the young ones will treat them with the same lack of thought and respect that they're guilty of today. They'll lose their looks, their bodies won't attract the same attention, their priorities will change and hopefully they'll cringe when they think back to their time in BB. And I'll laugh if I'm still around.”

Ricky will look back and think wow I was young and I wasted my time being miserable
Others will look back and be happy they lived
ShadowTillNow
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by Damon_Plembury:
“BECAUSE ITS A ****ING DISGRACE.

Im getting so so angry at people saying 'its a game show' 'Its Big Brother'

That doesn't give anyone a free pass to disrespect other housemates

You all seem to love anarchy and its turning BB into a stressful experience. I legit cannot take this show or its child fans anymore”

No, it gives them a check for it! And generally I don't care. Sure I think what some of them do is ridiculous, but they're in there by choice. They can leave. I can switch off.
kdee2012
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by heresitting:
“I find Bear abhorrent, but in a few years will any of us really remember him... but he may have earned enough money during this mad period to set himself up for life (house etc).
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He will be forgotten about a week after BB finishes or if you watch EOTB a week after that. What else can he do. There are no other shows, they had to scrape the bottom of the cesspool for this season of EOTB. Once BB finishes for me it will be Stephen Who!, he is no celeb.
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