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Will Antonio Conte succeed at Chelsea?
It was a winning start against a mediocre to poor West Ham side, and while Conte looks passionate and astute as a coach, the performance did not look convincing at all.
Oscar and Pedro need showing the door, Fabregas retained for his sublime assists, and another world class midfielder is needed. Someone in the mould of Joao Mario, a tough attack minded player. The club also need a full back and a centre back very quickly. The signings should have been completed earlier, and I can only see the club maybe scraping into the top four, unless the squad is significantly strengthened. It seems that the board are going to play a big part in whether Conte succeeds or not, and the Manchester clubs are way ahead when it comes to signing transfer targets. |
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It depends what succeed is defined as, does it mean winning the league?
Getting back into the Champions League? Winning a cup?? Once that is settled, then we can better gauge if he will or might be a success or not. |
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It's good that you waited a full 90 minutes and three points before getting under the covers and sobbing about your hopeless season.
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What is with this whole 'not impressed' after the first game talk.
It will take some time just as it will at City. |
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If Chelsea actually let conte build something then yeah he can succeed. If they don't make top 4 and they sack him that will be a joke.
Conte needs two transfer windows minimum to build his own team. |
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It depends what succeed is defined as, does it mean winning the league?
Getting back into the Champions League? Winning a cup?? Once that is settled, then we can better gauge if he will or might be a success or not. |
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Cam on the Chewls!
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A positive comment from Cahill on the changes brought to the club by Conte. Fitness, organisation and spirit..
http://www.chelseafc.com/news/latest...additions.html |
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If Chelsea actually let conte build something then yeah he can succeed. If they don't make top 4 and they sack him that will be a joke.
Conte needs two transfer windows minimum to build his own team. Chelsea's problems over the years, despite the huge investment, have been largely of their own making. The only manager they have ever been willing to commit time to is Mourinho - and even then that comes with caveats. Anybody and everybody else is treated as highly disposable. If Chelsea are outside the top four at Christmas, the sad and unfortunate reality is that Conte will be facing the sack, rather than given the time he needs. |
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Pretty much this.
Chelsea's problems over the years, despite the huge investment, have been largely of their own making. The only manager they have ever been willing to commit time to is Mourinho - and even then that comes with caveats. Anybody and everybody else is treated as highly disposable. If Chelsea are outside the top four at Christmas, the sad and unfortunate reality is that Conte will be facing the sack, rather than given the time he needs. |
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Conte will succeed at Chelsea. Unfortunately.
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Conte will succeed at Chelsea. Unfortunately.
By the way your inbox is full.
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Not sure tbh.
By the way your inbox is full. ![]() 2nd part: Not any more - but be quick. I think a holiday is imminent
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I don't think Chelsea will win the league this season, but I can see them finishing in the automatic Champions League places, so from that perspective, he will have had a successful season, when compared to their previous season.
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Yes, the title is between the Manchester clubs for me. Then a fight between Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and Spurs (in no particular order) for the other two CL places.
I'm fairly confident that Chelsea will do better than last season, but it's hard to imagine we could do any worse ! I think Conte will get another season providing we stay in contention, but top 6 will be a minimum requirement. It may depend on any signings we make in the next couple of weeks. If Emenalo & Co can't land the players Conte is looking for, could he really be blamed if we miss out in a top 4 finish ? |
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Yes, the title is between the Manchester clubs for me. Then a fight between Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and Spurs (in no particular order) for the other two CL places.
I'm fairly confident that Chelsea will do better than last season, but it's hard to imagine we could do any worse ! I think Conte will get another season providing we stay in contention, but top 6 will be a minimum requirement. It may depend on any signings we make in the next couple of weeks. If Emenalo & Co can't land the players Conte is looking for, could he really be blamed if we miss out in a top 4 finish ? |
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Watford v Chelsea
Another early test against a team with two dangerous strikers. Conte has done very well re' getting the team fit and motivated. It's also good that he acknowledges the need for 2 or 3 more additions to the squad. If a player wants to leave their club and join Chelsea, I wouldn't have though the selling club would want to keep an unhappy player, so there might be activity towards the end of this month.
This is a match when I don't think the manager would have picked Terry and Cahill. It would have been one of them plus the new CB. Conte knows there is not nearly enough pace at the back with Terry and Cahill together and virtually no room to play a higher line which limits the team tactically. Watching Man Utd v Southampton last night, Mata was outstanding in disturbing the ball very quickly and accurately. In a different class to Oscar and Willian there. I'm well aware that both of those players are working very hard for the team. Willian always runs well, and so does Oscar when the spotlight's on him. The team need quicker and more accurate distribution though if they are going to create clear chances, and for all the possession against West Ham, there were few clear chances created. If you watch Willian closely, he takes far too long to distribute the ball from the right usually, and by the time he does, the opposition are ready and set. Cuadrado needs to be challenging for his position, and given the right backing could do very well. Scraping wins can be dangerous, because those slight wins can quickly turn into draws and then defeats. The team is looking good, but not good enough yet to challenge for the PL. |
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Scraping wins is what will see us challenging for top 4 rather than 10th. They aren't dangerous, they are vital. If we can get points on the board while the manager is getting to grips with things and sussing out the PL then thats great and will stand us in good stead later in the season when any new signing have bedded in and he is more accustomed to the English game.
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Another early test against a team with two dangerous strikers. Conte has done very well re' getting the team fit and motivated. It's also good that he acknowledges the need for 2 or 3 more additions to the squad. If a player wants to leave their club and join Chelsea, I wouldn't have though the selling club would want to keep an unhappy player, so there might be activity towards the end of this month.
This is a match when I don't think the manager would have picked Terry and Cahill. It would have been one of them plus the new CB. Conte knows there is not nearly enough pace at the back with Terry and Cahill together and virtually no room to play a higher line which limits the team tactically. Watching Man Utd v Southampton last night, Mata was outstanding in disturbing the ball very quickly and accurately. In a different class to Oscar and Willian there. I'm well aware that both of those players are working very hard for the team. Willian always runs well, and so does Oscar when the spotlight's on him. The team need quicker and more accurate distribution though if they are going to create clear chances, and for all the possession against West Ham, there were few clear chances created. If you watch Willian closely, he takes far too long to distribute the ball from the right usually, and by the time he does, the opposition are ready and set. Cuadrado needs to be challenging for his position, and given the right backing could do very well. Scraping wins can be dangerous, because those slight wins can quickly turn into draws and then defeats. The team is looking good, but not good enough yet to challenge for the PL. |
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I'm no fan of Willian, but Cuadrado is not defo not any better.
Willian did improve a bit last season and was at least more positive with a bit more end product to his game, but still not enough for my liking. Still too much running and not enough goals or creativity. Same with Oscar! Early days, but it looks like we are yet again going to rely far too heavily on Hazard and Costa for creativity and goals. Conte having a whinge about the crazy prices for medium level talent going for £55 million. He is dead right about that! But, the hard reality is Chelsea have to stump up or get left behind. |
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Conte having a whinge about the crazy prices for medium level talent going for £55 million. He is dead right about that! But, the hard reality is Chelsea have to stump up or get left behind.
is it really worth spending 200 million just to finish second? |
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Its the old arsenal problem.
is it really worth spending 200 million just to finish second? |
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Watford 1 v Chelsea 2
The substitutions made a massive difference, and Fabregas surely has to start from now on. Very slow build up without him.
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Cesc is class and should be one of the first names on the team sheet
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6 out of 6 for chelsea!
conte not doing bad |
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