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The international break has come just at the right time. Will be interesting to see how JT and Zouma fit into any new look defence when they're back fit. A back three might be a common approach from now on, and Alonso / Moses were very good as wing backs. I always said that Willian should be focusing more on assists and goals, and to be fair he scored a very good one against Hull.
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Sir Frank has said his dream is to one day manage Chelsea.
Forget all this badge nonsense! Someone is either cutout for a top job or they are not! I'm I no hurry to get rid of Conte, but I would love to see the next manager be either Frank or JT. |
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Sir Frank has said his dream is to one day manage Chelsea.
Forget all this badge nonsense! Someone is either cutout for a top job or they are not! I'm I no hurry to get rid of Conte, but I would love to see the next manager be either Frank or JT. This is a key role in a massive company giving out such a role for no other reason as you like someone (there is no other logical reason as their is not one single shred of logical evidence that he has any ability in the role) is insanity at best. As for JT love the guy for his abilities on the pitch but off the pitch? Even comics would be setting up sting operations, neither have shown any real serious intention to go into management and in 2016 to get a top job you need to show something other then "loving a club" and a ability to play football, It's a key role in a multi million pound business |
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I am sure it's Billy Blood's dream to manage Chelsea should we also consider him?
This is a key role in a massive company giving out such a role for no other reason as you like someone (there is no other logical reason as their is not one single shred of logical evidence that he has any ability in the role) is insanity at best. As for JT love the guy for his abilities on the pitch but off the pitch? Even comics would be setting up sting operations, neither have shown any real serious intention to go into management and in 2016 to get a top job you need to show something other then "loving a club" and a ability to play football, It's a key role in a multi million pound business We had a World Cup winning manager last less than six months. Mighty Germany gave the job to Beckenbaur who han never managed and he went on to win the WC for them. David Moyes was recommended to manage UTD by no less a person than Sir Alex, yet he bombed. Kind of kills your point stone dead! Frank is a very bright guy with a great football brain and 20 years experience in that game. If he doesn't know enough by now he never will. |
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We had a World Cup winning manager last less than six months. Mighty Germany gave the job to Beckenbaur who han never managed and he went on to win the WC for them.
David Moyes was recommended to manage UTD by no less a person than Sir Alex, yet he bombed. Kind of kills your point stone dead! Frank is a very bright guy with a great football brain and 20 years experience in that game. If he doesn't know enough by now he never will. Why are you talking about international management? Has nothing to do with club management, Very different jobs. He has 20 years experience in one section in a industry a section that has slight connections with this part of the business, Someone can work in a industry for 20 years and still have zero knowledge of an utterly different part You cannot make decisions at a club like Chelsea the same way has you would for some lower league side because the business is different same as it is for international management and club management same as football is different then it was 10 years ago never mind 20 years etc, The industry has changed and has many different levels and different roles that require different types of people etc |
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Of course when you recruit for a role it might not work out, That happens every single day in every single business. Saying it "kills a point" is insane. What about all the other appointments done the normal way that work out? Name me one where a former player has taken a job at a TOP club with zero experience and it has worked out in the modern game? Should all businesses recruit via your reasoning? Just because an appointment turns out to be a bad one is not a reason to appoint someone to a senior role in a multi million pound business with zero evidence of his ability and the hope it could work out What it does show is you need to be more intelligent in your recruitment process not less intelligent.
Why are you talking about international management? Has nothing to do with club management, Very different jobs. He has 20 years experience in one section in a industry a section that has slight connections with this part of the business, Someone can work in a industry for 20 years and still have zero knowledge of an utterly different part You cannot make decisions at a club like Chelsea the same way has you would for some lower league side because the business is different same as it is for international management and club management same as football is different then it was 10 years ago never mind 20 years etc, The industry has changed and has many different levels and different roles that require different types of people etc |
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Rumours we're going to offer Hazard plus cash for Bonucci.
![]() Already short of real, creative talent, that sounds like a crazy deal for a 29 year old centre half. |
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Rumours we're going to offer Hazard plus cash for Bonucci.
![]() Already short of real, creative talent, that sounds like a crazy deal for a 29 year old centre half. |
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That will never happen, it would be insanity.
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That will never happen, it would be insanity.
The type of mistakes we are making in defense we could have all the creativity in the world and it would not make the slightest bit of difference to us, Could extra work in training change those types of mistakes? Last season I would have said yes but today I not so sure. If Conte wants Bonucci and feels he can offer the team more then Eden (and looking at both players recent performances I not sure I could disagree) Bonucci I think has a contract until 2020 so would be a expensive purchase (more so in a Jan window) then it could happen, Although I am not sure Eden would want to go to Juventus, A Willian or Cesc/Oscar would a deal that is more likely |
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At the end of the day it's creating chances and scoring goals that win matches.
Cesc is extremely hit and miss and already far too much of the creativity is laid at the feet of Hazard. Generally, if he doesn't fire we struggle, so gawd knows what we'd be like without him. I'd much rather we raise cash by getting rid of deadwood like Oscar, Mikel, Ivanovic and sell on some of our loan players. |
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At the end of the day it's creating chances and scoring goals that win matches.
Cesc is extremely hit and miss and already far too much of the creativity is laid at the feet of Hazard. Generally, if he doesn't fire we struggle, so gawd knows what we'd be like without him. I'd much rather we raise cash by getting rid of deadwood like Oscar, Mikel, Ivanovic and sell on some of our loan players. Only Oscar has any real value, Offering Brana or Mikel in part exchange would not be worth it, If you are offering something in part exchange you have to offer something of high value. Mikel and Brana prob have more value in normal transfers (I think Mikel contract is up soon so even less value then Brana) |
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It would depend on what money Conte has to spend.
The type of mistakes we are making in defense we could have all the creativity in the world and it would not make the slightest bit of difference to us, Could extra work in training change those types of mistakes? Last season I would have said yes but today I not so sure. If Conte wants Bonucci and feels he can offer the team more then Eden (and looking at both players recent performances I not sure I could disagree) Bonucci I think has a contract until 2020 so would be a expensive purchase (more so in a Jan window) then it could happen, Although I am not sure Eden would want to go to Juventus, A Willian or Cesc/Oscar would a deal that is more likely But I still think getting rid of a 25 year old Hazard in part exchange for Bonucci would be madness. Bonucci will be 30 before the start of next season, and I don't care how good he is, that will mean he's past his very best. True, Hazard is inconsistent and was poor last season. But at his best he must be a £70m+ player at today's crazy prices. |
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Well apparently Juventus want Fabregas if these rumours are to be believed. So that would seem to solve the problem. Cesc doesn't appear to fit into Conte's plans and he's the same age as Bonucci. A cash plus Fabregas deal would make sense.
But I still think getting rid of a 25 year old Hazard in part exchange for Bonucci would be madness. Bonucci will be 30 before the start of next season, and I don't care how good he is, that will mean he's past his very best. True, Hazard is inconsistent and was poor last season. But at his best he must be a £70m+ player at today's crazy prices. |
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Yep Cesc would be a more logical move, I can see Cesc accepting a move to Italy more then Eden
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That's all supposing Bonucci would want to make the move of course. He's never played outside of Italy and he's been with Juve for 6 years. I guess the Conte connection would help.
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Quite a lot of interest from major clubs for Christensen, but we're determined to hang on to him and bring him into the first team next season.
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Rumours hes gone.
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Rumours hes gone.
Rumour that Conte is set to leave ![]() Several bookies suspended betting he was leaving, but within the last hour Chelsea have come out and said it's rubbish. On a better note. The club has finally confirmed the £60 million a year sponsorship with Nike...cool!!! |
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Where did you hear that?
Rumour that Conte is set to leave ![]() Several bookies suspended betting he was leaving, but within the last hour Chelsea have come out and said it's rubbish. On a better note. The club has finally confirmed the £60 million a year sponsorship with Nike...cool!!! |
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For all those who came out with the crap that anyone who didn't like Jose were Liverpool fans blah blah blah.
David Johnstone. Editor of CFCUK fanzine and member the supporters trust board. "A lot of fans were gutted when he was sacked but a lot were glad to see the back of him." Jason Cindy, tonight on Talksport. "A lot of people at Chelsea detested Jose." Amazing how many Liverpool people have infiltrated Chelsea FC. |
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For all those who came out with the crap that anyone who didn't like Jose were Liverpool fans blah blah blah.
David Johnstone. Editor of CFCUK fanzine and member the supporters trust board. "A lot of fans were gutted when he was sacked but a lot were glad to see the back of him." Jason Cindy, tonight on Talksport. "A lot of people at Chelsea detested Jose." Amazing how many Liverpool people have infiltrated Chelsea FC. Do you really spend all your life searching though the media for random quotes about Jose? Of course some fans was pleased Jose left just as some fans was pleased when SAF left Utd and some will be happy when Wenger leaves Arsenal but very few of them go around obsessing about their dislike of someone to the scale you seem to be doing, That's where I think many people have a issue with some of your posts, For someone you don't like you seem to spend any awful lot of time discussing him and looking for quotes about. |
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What does your milkman think?
Do you really spend all your life searching though the media for random quotes about Jose? Of course some fans was pleased Jose left just as some fans was pleased when SAF left Utd and some will be happy when Wenger leaves Arsenal but very few of them go around obsessing about their dislike of someone to the scale you seem to be doing, That's where I think many people have a issue with some of your posts, For someone you don't like you seem to spend any awful lot of time discussing him and looking for quotes about. According to them, we were THE only ones who did not like Jose and were very glad he was gone. I did not go out of my way to look for anti Jose quotes. The other day i did my usual Chelsea google news search and the Chelsea fan item was top of the first page so I checked it out. I was not going to bother saying anything about him backing up what I knew all along, until I heard what Cundy said last night, which again, I did not go looking to hear. It was far, far more extreme than anything I have ever said about Jose and IMHO worth saying on hear. To hear such hatred at Chelsea for him was shocking to me as has been the sheer number of Chelsea fans coming out as firmly anti Jose. Oh, and of course it was a great performance and win on Sunday but I'm done with football char on this forum. Yet another one driven away by petty people on here. Not just the Chelsea thread I must add |
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Were you not Tip Top? I thought you'd replied using the wrong account or something.
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With tip top gone, it was just a final parting shot in this forum at the extreme intolerence of three posters from the Chelsea thread who drove me away with their relentless baiting, insulting and truly weird hatred of Liverpool and bizarre theory of tip top and myself being Liverpool fans.
According to them, we were THE only ones who did not like Jose and were very glad he was gone. I did not go out of my way to look for anti Jose quotes. The other day i did my usual Chelsea google news search and the Chelsea fan item was top of the first page so I checked it out. I was not going to bother saying anything about him backing up what I knew all along, until I heard what Cundy said last night, which again, I did not go looking to hear. It was far, far more extreme than anything I have ever said about Jose and IMHO worth saying on hear. To hear such hatred at Chelsea for him was shocking to me as has been the sheer number of Chelsea fans coming out as firmly anti Jose. Oh, and of course it was a great performance and win on Sunday but I'm done with football char on this forum. Yet another one driven away by petty people on here. Not just the Chelsea thread I must add You will get a good number of fans saying Roman buying us was a bad thing, Just because people think that do you think we should give their views some credence? So some people called you a Liverpool fan? Its not like they have called you a mass murderer or something, You are not a Liverpool fan so why is it a big deal? Nobody can drive you away from something like a forum, You can make a choice not to post etc but to blame other people is not really fair, Nobody can affect your decision making apart from yourself |
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