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The age argument doesn't explain Heavy D.

James asking the question we have all speculated on and Ricky answering just as most of us would here. It's almost as if we wrote the script

Well, as I said yesterday I believe that Heavy D has learning difficulties and is somewhat vulnerable. A lot of his behaviour reminds me of my daughter. Not saying I'm right, just my opinion, but that's my feeling.

Why this be the same high and mighty Ricky who was sacked from eastenders for showing his talents in other ways

Do you know what? I watch BB for simple conversations like that - I enjoy seeing and hearing what the HM's think of each other and things in general.

I don't want to see people putting on a show for the camera, getting their tits and privates out and deliberately causing arguments and bad feeling.

James is very perceptive - he's nailed it in that convo. BB has changed over the years - it's a whole new ball game.


ETA

No wonder we haven't seen that much of Ricky - I've just seen him win Pole Vaulting Gold for Brazil in the Olympics - he must be shattered toing and froing during the night

Do you not think we all grow up and learn from our past mistakes - I know I have, I'm not the same person I was last year, let alone 5, 10, 20 years ago.

So what? He can't grow, is that what you're saying?

"I'm 33 I'm passed that sh*t"

Both of them have quite a dry sense of humour - its a pity we have been robbed of most of the conversations in the house unless it involved declarations of love.

Age can't be used as an argument. It's more to do with decency and moral standards.

There have been plenty of housemates in BB and CBB that are same age or younger than Bear, Lewis, Chloe and Marnie who haven't lowered themselves to the level this lot are at.

THe problem is, these people have found some level of financial success from being just this way, it's worked for them (or those who manage them), so they probably see no reason to change. Having said that though, they are going to have to - as I said before** - if they want to move into some kind of career that enables them to have that kind of financial reward in the longer term, when this kind of behaviour just doesn't cut it.

In other words, they are going to have to grow up at some point or just fizzle away into oblivion and find a real job!

ETA: **sorry, think that was another thread perhaps

And Bear has done a sex tape, we know what Marnie does on GS and no doubt some of the others have done things they regret. IMO he has been punished enough and I'd rather listen to a normal conversation like this than Bear talking drivel.

I liked this video, some thoughtful conversation in the house that we get to see

(( Famous )) .

Yeah, he also said once someone passes the age of 25 they should become mature and not go wild. Yet he got sacked from Eastenders for doing just that.

Im not saying that people cant change or grow up but he does sound really judgemental at times. He needs to remember the mistakes that he has made before criticising others so much.

You can hardly call having sexy times on a web cam in your own home whilst smoking a joint going wild. Maybe he should have forseen that the woman involved would sell it to the press, but then why would he. I bet he's a whole lot more careful these days.

Yeah - only do it with women you can trust

It's sad isn't it. Even Jessie Wallace's fiance sold x rated pictures of her to the press just before they were due to be married... She had to take time off for stress after it happened. There are some despicable people out there.

If we didn't know better we'd think the world was populated by those just out to use people and make a quick buck, fortunately it's just that we hear more about the bad apples because there are so many outlets for this information to be sold on, talked about and read about.

Ricky also didn't become famous off the back of that. He's known for his acting.

The odd joint is hardly hard-core drug taking.

Several internet sources report Ricky's year of birth as 1988.

Quite. He's always come over as a lovely lad and I loved him as Fats. Yes, I'm confused about his age.

BIB I also feel he's a bit mentally challenged but I also feel the same about Bear???

Nothing wrong with the odd joint or messing about on camera with your lover, but we were all younger once, it was just a bit of fun. Cannot agree with her selling this, but the paps always exaggerate these things. I don't smoke, but not many haven't tried a little spliff at some time or another and I don't condemn anyone for what they do in the privacy of their own home.

It's only a rumour that he was written out of EE because of that. At the time he was suspended for a few weeks and was back on screen after it. When his permanent departure was announced months later, the BBC made it clear that his prior suspension had nothing to do with it.

The suspension was over his smoking cannabis. He did nothing wrong otherwise as the webcam sex chat took place in his own home unlike Leslie Grantham's.

Whilst Ricky and Bear have the webcam thing in common (though I find it hard to believe Bear played no part in his getting out) they are otherwise nothing alike as people.