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Old 16-08-2016, 18:07
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May I just express my goshness? This is fascinating and insightful. I know we only see edited highlights, but you can tell there's no let up. The sheer amount of energy he expends on being this way - well actually it's effortless for him - which makes it all the more frightening.
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Old 16-08-2016, 18:13
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Yes I tend to agree with most on this thread

This paragraph from what the OP wrote.
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{Bear's experience with the security guard proved him as a bully/coward (He knew it as much as we did lol!) & since then, he's learned not to risk being around someone who can control/expose him, so has instead ramped up the passive/aggressive stuff to ridiculous levels so that he can control and/or abuse/bully the housemates he dislikes, all whilst under the blatant facade of being "Friendly" "Helpful" "Aving A Laugh"etc....}
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After last nights twaddle I am done with the shite & will just logon here to catch up, but of course BB know all this & enable it as the subtle add breaks featured the morons new show "starting Monday".
The voting public clearly like this conflict TV and as someone else said its a sad reflection on society should that be the case.
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Old 16-08-2016, 18:19
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He's just a prankster. Sam, Ricky, Aubrey, Katie and Renee are much more sinister and disturbing characters.
Ive heard it all now

Genuinely nice people are now sinister and the prize prick is just'being a lad'

The world is truly ****ed with opinions like that
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Old 16-08-2016, 18:41
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OP - you're just imagining things , getting yourself all wound up .

what's Bear actually done ?---
Yep, I used to get told that a LOT...
Because that's what abusers do, they do what seem like "Silly Harmless" things so if you complain they say you're "Making A Fuss Over Nothing"... Then they escalate until they don't really bother disguising their true selves anymore because they've got control & instilled self-doubt into others.

If he's this bad in front of the cameras, how nasty could he be in private? People like Bear just plough through life, people, things, without a thought for others or any appreciation for the good things they have. Leaving a path of debris behind them while they move on to the next "Fun" thing to do... AND he's gonna have beefy security guys of his own & feel even more like an invincible god, so his attitude's gonna be even more obnoxious methinks.
I'm not wound up at all, I'm just calmly stating my opinion of Bear, and my reasons why, with a link to an informative article about emotional abuse. I don't expect you to share my opinion of course.

There's plenty to see about the things he's done.
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Old 16-08-2016, 18:46
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Bear is on a television show.

He has a quick improvisational mind. His ability to be mischievous is a talent.
It requires no talent to trash a house or waste food.
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Old 16-08-2016, 18:52
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Personally, I wouldn't say he's dangerous. He's just an idiot. Ultimately, he's all talk - as we saw when he pooped his pants when the security guy confronted him.
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Old 16-08-2016, 18:53
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Yep, I used to get told that a LOT...
Because that's what abusers do, they do what seem like "Silly Harmless" things so if you complain they say you're "Making A Fuss Over Nothing"... Then they escalate until they don't really bother disguising their true selves anymore because they've got control & instilled self-doubt into others.

If he's this bad in front of the cameras, how nasty could he be in private? People like Bear just plough through life, people, things, without a thought for others or any appreciation for the good things they have. Leaving a path of debris behind them while they move on to the next "Fun" thing to do... AND he's gonna have beefy security guys of his own & feel even more like an invincible god, so his attitude's gonna be even more obnoxious methinks.
I'm not wound up at all, I'm just calmly stating my opinion of Bear, and my reasons why, with a link to an informative article about emotional abuse. I don't expect you to share my opinion of course.

There's plenty to see about the things he's done.
but what's he actually done ?

you just seem to be talking about some experiences in your own life and projecting them onto him .

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Old 16-08-2016, 19:05
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but what's he actually done ?

you just seem to be talking about some experiences in your own life and projecting them onto him .

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Oh Virgil, if you are still asking that question you are either trying to rise a row or you have watched this series with a blindfold on...
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Old 16-08-2016, 19:10
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May I just express my goshness? This is fascinating and insightful. I know we only see edited highlights, but you can tell there's no let up. The sheer amount of energy he expends on being this way - well actually it's effortless for him - which makes it all the more frightening.
It IS effortless for him, he lives & breathes chaos, he gets a SERIOUS kick out of it.
I don't want to bang on too much but I was raised by a narcissistic/emotionally/mentally etc abusive parent & spent from age 16-31 with what I now know is a pretty spot-on replica of her, personality wise. It was horrendous but I made the choice to live my life differently, I didn't use it as an excuse for bad behaviour. It was a root cause sometimes for sure, but not an excuse - I still made the choices, no matter what I'd been through.

This doesn't make me biased about Bear, it just means I'm perhaps a bit more aware of the subtleties of emotional/mental abuse than your "Average" person. Please don't think I'm being patronising either, I'm speaking from my experience.
And I'm not saying for sure that he's abusive/narcissistic etc, I've dealt with hardcore head f***ers & he's nothing compared lol, but he's certainly raised a lot of flags with his behaviour.

Unlike in my case (And most cases unfortunately) , Bear's not covert in what he's doing & obviously this isn't a "Normal" living environment, but he's an adult, he knows what this show's about - he's said he's being himself & I believe him...He's got serious skills in Emotional Terrorism & you don't get that skilled overnight, or as an act for "Entertainment", like he was trying to say... He openly said he loves being able to say a few words & spark off a huge argument, that isn't entertainment - it's about POWER & CONTROL. He knows which housemates cringe when he goes near them, makes a point of doing so as much as possible (While invading their personal space too) & revels in their discomfort. I dread to think what he's like when the cameras are off, I really do.
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Old 16-08-2016, 19:12
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I agree with the OP. I don't think it would take much to tip him over the edge & descend into physical violence. His act are aggressive and why, for instance, would he pour the oil on the ground in a communal area if he wasn't really hoping that someone might injure themselves? Early on he was aggressively touching James, he smashed the glass, he has broken or tried to break other objects, he was trying to lick Ricky, generally invading his space. Yes, I think he is dangerous.

The other point is that words really can be as dangerous. Anyone read the "sticks and stones may break my bones but words can also hurt me" poem? It talks about how bones can heal but the psychological affect of words can last a lifetime.

It's the fact that is it so deliberate and calculated. Heavy is obnoxious but I don't think that he is cold and calculating like Bear. Heavy really isn't intelligent enough to think things through before he does & says hurtful things. Stephen Bear is. Nothing he says or does is without the sole purpose of hurting others and/or giving himself pressure. Sometimes those two aims are the same thing.
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Old 16-08-2016, 19:18
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Interesting post OP, and I largely agree. I think for vulnerable women with no self-respect he would be quite dangerous because the guy doesn't seem to have any kind of empathy or any kind of boundaries. And like you, I think hes calculating and cruel. He was delighted with Chloe debasing herself on telly. She was a sex toy for him.

I watch him 'dispassionately' and have even laughed at times, but if you go beyond the entertainment value of him deliberately trolling and creating havoc in a gameshow environment, and look behind the guy's eyes, there's nothing there. The only real emotion I've seen him express is anger.

It's this aspect of him that strikes me the most. His coldness and lack of emotional range. It's quite disturbing when you really home in on it.
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Old 16-08-2016, 19:21
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Bear understands that he is on a television show.

I assume that he is able to keep in mind that it is only Big Brother. It doesn't matter. It is of no importance. And thus he is able to persistently amuse himself and some of us.
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Old 16-08-2016, 19:29
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Ive heard it all now

Genuinely nice people are now sinister and the prize prick is just'being a lad'

The world is truly ****ed with opinions like that
I've been feeling the exact same when I see people say he's just a bit of a lad,I truly worry about the World of today


And OP your post was enlightening and made me actually feel better about myself as this is how I feel about Bear because of an ex husband like that and all I've been tweeting is that I think he's dangerous so thank you for your eloquently put post
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Old 16-08-2016, 19:49
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Oh Virgil, if you are still asking that question you are either trying to rise a row or you have watched this series with a blindfold on...
neihter , I'm just waiting for an answer .
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Old 16-08-2016, 19:52
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I can't believe some are taking him and this show so seriously. That's what scares me lol
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Old 16-08-2016, 19:56
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He's about as dangerous as a melted action man. One look at the security guard and he shat his little knickers
No one said he wasn't a coward! There are other ways to be dangerous. His is a total disregard for other people and absolutely zero conscience. Not wanting to be overly dramatic but I wouldn't be surprised to hear he kills someone one day.
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Old 16-08-2016, 20:03
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Imagine your daughter/sister/friend brings home Mr Laugh-a-minute

I bet Christmas is a great time for all.

"Oops! Silly me, I've dwopped the turkey. Oops, now I'm standing on it, it was an accident, I'm sowwy"

He has he opened everyone's presents?
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Old 16-08-2016, 20:03
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Bear annoying as a loose tooth. Which I have at the moment. At least my tooth can be pulled out.
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Old 16-08-2016, 20:05
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I can't believe some are taking him and this show so seriously. That's what scares me lol
So is it 'just a laugh'!? Just banter eh? Doesn't matter where or what it is - bullying is being condoned.
Your words are what I would expect of someone with a )no insight b) little concern for others.
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Old 16-08-2016, 20:07
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He's just a prankster. Sam, Ricky, Aubrey, Katie and Renee are much more sinister and disturbing characters.
Bear is a Bullie through and through Who enjoys tormenting people Relentlessly . He has driven the other housemates mad with his beheaviour is there for all to see ,
if it walk like duck and quakes like a duck it's a duck
his behavior borders on being sociopathic He just does not care
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Old 16-08-2016, 20:07
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Better start off by saying all this is JUST MY OPINION lol....

I feel that he's a predator, and abusive as well... He's an Emotional Vampire, which is why so many housemates are tense/down. These people feed off peoples souls, creating instability, unhappiness, fear, rage etc & THRIVE on it.

The "Baby Voice" thing is all a HUGE part of the passive/aggressive abuse... Although he's being blatantly sarcastic & very often there's also a palpable air of menace to his tone, if you pull him up on it he can just say (Probably with heavier sarcasm) "But I'm Being Niiiiice, I'm Not Shouting... " I've many years of experience with an abusive/controlling ex partner & mother & LOADS of Bear's behavioural traits are soooo similar. Kind of like saying something snidey then saying "Lol" afterwards, cos that makes it "Bantz, Innit" .
Google something called "Gaslighting" & it might make sense to you regarding Bear.
It's a form of emotional abuse, where you deliberately try to create insanity in others... Seriously, he's a prime example of UBER passive/aggressiveness too!!

They engineer situations that make it able for them to do S**T things, then turn it back onto the victims. He wound Renee up & she bit, allowing him to sit back & bask in the chaos & the fact he had so much control over her. They'll windup/manipulate others to do their dirty work, so they can sit back, watch their Flying Monkeys cause chaos, if challenged "Well, I Didn't Even Do It!" "What, It's Just My Opinion, I'm Not Being Nasty..."
"Don't Take Things So Seriously"

He gives me chills, NOT nice ones... He's dangerous, cunning, vindictive & abusive (In my opinion obviously) it's no wonder Sam, Ricky, Katie are so quiet - they are constantly walking on eggshells & they don't want to engage with him!!
It's like you can only cope by: 1, Putting up with it & try to get some enjoyment (But risk being seen as two faced), 2, Rant/Rage Every So Often (But fueling him), 3, Limit your contact as much as possible (But get dubbed Boring & be bored!)

Yes, BB is a GAMESHOW, but Bear's "Game" is being intimidating/passive/aggressive/menacing/wasteful/petty/immature/spiteful/vindictive etc etc... He's CONSTANTLY on at the housemates he despises the most, like the school photo - he was grabbing Ricky, pulling him closer so he could lick his face... Um, personal space?! If Bear wanted to do a funny face, cool - but he just HAD to test Ricky, see if he could make him react. Well done to Ricky for not allowing himself to be controlled.

And if people wanna bash me for saying this, then go ahead - although I tend to go for civil discussion of opinions myself - but Bear is a BULLY & a COWARD, but he also has intelligence, which in my book makes him even more dangerous cos he learns from mistakes.

Bear's experience with the security guard proved him as a bully/coward (He knew it as much as we did lol!) & since then, he's learned not to risk being around someone who can control/expose him, so has instead ramped up the passive/aggressive stuff to ridiculous levels so that he can control and/or abuse/bully the housemates he dislikes, all whilst under the blatant facade of being "Friendly" "Helpful" "Aving A Laugh"etc....

He knows EXACTLY what he's doing & he's playing his game very well - he's an Emotional Vampire & a Predator, I find it hard to believe that there are not more people that can see it... He not only feeds off the negativity, he THRIVES from it, he gets a kick out of hurting people that he sees as weaker than him & uses Emotional Terrorism to wear down people, especially ones that might be strong enough mentally to challenge him.

He's not Fun, he's Calculated, Vindictive, Narcissistic & Scary.
Sam summed it up perfectly in the diary room bless her - it's exhausting dealing with someone like that, it does make you depressed/weary/fearful/drained/tense cos there's no let up from it!! Broke my heart to see her so weary/upset.

I feel sorry for everyone, not Lewis, Marnie or Heavy D cos they lap it up, yes, even Heavy -said from the start he's as bad as them. He's quite happy to start playing up with Bear when he feels like it, so he's a hypocrite to then kick off at him when he's not his "Friend". I feel sad that without the toxic behaviour, primarily by Bear-the housemates would be given a chance to not be "Boring"... There's been little glimpses, but far & few between, how can people not be boring when they're walking on eggshells??? I know it sounds extreme to call it "Emotional Terrorism", but it's a form of torture what he's doing... A constant dripping tap of negativity & pure nastiness.

BB has blown it in my eyes, this series hasn't been much fun at all, it's been painful to watch & I keep hoping it'll get better but that hope's dwindling fast.. Too much hypocrisy, unclear/not shown/not given warnings, dodgy nomination twists, aggression, Marnie & Lewis's cringeworthy blatant "Scriptwriting" Bear's reign of Emotional/Mental Terrorism etc...
Everything you say is bang on. I watched for 5 minutes last night and couldn't take any more. It's draining, and for BB to devote the whole series to that malfunctioning specimen is just the pits. They are taking the piss.
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Old 16-08-2016, 20:24
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A Narcissist's Prayer:

That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did... You Deserved It.
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Old 16-08-2016, 20:31
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Out here in the real world there are more important things going on than poor celebs getting paid a fortune for what is a summer camp .

Heavy has the right idea Laugh as its all nonsense
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Old 16-08-2016, 20:35
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A Narcissist's Prayer:

That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did... You Deserved It.
Not heard that before. Sounds pretty accurate.
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Old 16-08-2016, 20:36
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do we need to send that security guard in again dangerous my @$$
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