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Emma clearly doesnt like Heavy D
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katiekoo
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by chameleon212:
“She should be consistent. I prefer the harsher interviews but sometimes she treats certain housemates with kid gloves and other times she'll completely roast them.

She was unfairly vicious with Chloe and is often this way with young, attractive females.

Be consistent, that's all most of us want.”

BIB. Agree 100%.
julie_tredgold
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“How on earth was she supposed to conduct the interview? He came out booming and chatting all kinds of jibberish - she was finding it difficult to get a word in edgeways with all the fake guffawing and drivel.

Under the circumstances I think she did a fantastic job. She asked the questions most of us wanted asking - she got some pretty moronic/stupid answers but that's hardly her fault.

I'm not sure what else she could have done.”

she could of had some fun , brought some humour into it , smiled once or twice Rylan managed it with ease , , Emma lectured and belittled him . i am not heavys biggest fan but come on the guy is not very bright Emma was way out of her depth , her ego needs deflating
what question did she ask that you wanted answering ?
did you get an answer ?
I wanted to know who he wanted to win ,pretty basic really
Emma is a poor interviewer, she needs lessons , Davina was at least enthusiastic and loved the show , emma appears to be sulking , she was great when she first started the job but now seems to be tired of it
Menk
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by julie_tredgold:
“she could of had some fun , brought some humour into it , smiled once or twice Rylan managed it with ease , , Emma lectured and belittled him . i am not heavys biggest fan but come on the guy is not very bright Emma was way out of her depth , her ego needs deflating
what question did she ask that you wanted answering ?
did you get an answer ?

I wanted to know who he wanted to win ,pretty basic really
Emma is a poor interviewer, she needs lessons , Davina was at least enthusiastic and loved the show , emma appears to be sulking , she was great when she first started the job but now seems to be tired of it”

Well exactly.

She asked no questions that brought anything to the table - she didn't even succeed in her mission to belittle him, or shame him because he wasn't having any of it.

I honestly think a lot of posters would have been happy to see him getting punished by her until he saw the error of his ways - a verbal lashing is right up their street!

As far as I can see, HD had pretty much NO fans on here - no-one seemed to appreciate anything about his schtick, we are pretty much all detractors. But wanting to see the host make mincemeat of the HMs is not my idea of entertainment and is certainly not what the show should be doing - especially when they have hired these people to do what they are doing, they choose to concentrate on this footage rather than other HMs that they 'approve' of more. These HMs are making the programme that they are choosing to show!
zx50
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by peterstone:
“Some will come on here saying she should be impartial.

Should she? She's not a High Court judge.

The man is a cretin.”

I'm not surprised. You can tell that Colin forces that laugh out. Even when told by other housemates that he was being annoying, or something like that, he just starts laughing in a fake way. I honestly think he laughs like that because he doesn't want to show that he's done wrong. He'd have gotten a few harsh words from me if he tried to wind me up like he did others in there.
julie_tredgold
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by Menk:
“Well exactly.

She asked no questions that brought anything to the table - she didn't even succeed in her mission to belittle him, or shame him because he wasn't having any of it.

I honestly think a lot of posters would have been happy to see him getting punished by her until he saw the error of his ways - a verbal lashing is right up their street!

As far as I can see, HD had pretty much NO fans on here - no-one seemed to appreciate anything about his schtick, we are pretty much all detractors. But wanting to see the host make mincemeat of the HMs is not my idea of entertainment and is certainly not what the show should be doing - especially when they have hired these people to do what they are doing, they choose to concentrate on this footage rather than other HMs that they 'approve' of more. These HMs are making the programme that they are choosing to show!”


In Heavys defence he did stand up to Renee Bear and Lewis when the rest of the housemates preferred to bitch about them behind their backs, complain and moan Heavy will continue to act the way he does ms willis and her frosty interview achieved nothing and was just awkward , Rylan was enthusiastic and had some fun with heavy he obviously enjoys his job
Dippydolly
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by dirtyrat:
“Haha nose not what slaying”

Hahaha, i thought it was 'what the kids was saying nowadays'
Like the bizarre messages that are on lovehearts sweets these days
Marc_Vu
17-08-2016
Rylan was one of the worse interviewer... All he dId was ass kissing The person he interview to... I love her interview with Chloe and heavy D so far. She nailed it.
Veri
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by Cheri:
“Because every woman that isn't 100% Polite to another woman is OMG SOOOOOOO JEALOUSSSS.

Because Emma Willis would be jealous of Chloe Trout Khan”

Jealousy doesn't have to be rational.

in any case, Emma could be biased against young, attractive women without jealousy being the reason.
Veri
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by savvychels:
“Yes, Rachel Rice anyone? Davina treated her shockingly. She clearly didn't feel she deserved to win. I liked Davina and think overall she was a fab presenter, but let's not go overboard on how impartial she was. (She wasn't)”

What did Davina do that you think was treating Rachel shockingly?

I agree that Davina wasn't impartial. But some of her interviews became worse in perception and memory than they actually were, while other instances (such as telling BB6 Lesley that she was a brilliant HM) have largely been forgotten.
Arthur_B
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by Veri:
“What has you thinking she's more impartial than Davina?

In any case, Emma's not consistent. She grills some, fawns over others.”

I can think of FAR more cases where Davina showed bias in interviews - it's not even close for me. And yes, Emma isn't consistant, but neither was Davina.

Emma isn't impartial, but she's more impartial than Davina was.
Veri
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by KT_Dog:
“Would you slavishly do as she commands?”

Originally Posted by Menk:
“Do you think that is the point?

In the part of my post that you cut out, I said 'Where does it end?'

Do you think that the host of a talent show should be suggesting to the viewers who they consider to be the one that they paying public should vote for? Do you think that would be fair? Do you think it shows integrity?

Or do you thinks it's ok because, hey - people should have a mind of their own, shouldn't they?”

Viewers can be influenced even though they don't "slavishly do as she commands".

There's a curious phenomenon both in politics and re BB that many people can believe both

(1) That people think for themselves, make up their own minds, etc; and
(2) That people are misled by edits, highlights, the MSM, whatever.

The way they typically resolve this is often to think (1) about people they agree with, and (2) about people they don't.

They may fail to notice that both can be true of the same people, including themselves, for when people do their thinking and make up their minds, they do not ignore what they've seen and heard, and if the information they're getting is biased, that bias can affect their thinking. (That doesn't mean they necessarily reach the conclusion the bias is pointing towards, or even that they all reach the same conclusion as each other.)

A presenter's comments can make a difference, especially since viewers know the presenter is in a position to know more than they do. One effect we're seen recently is that when the presenter expresses negative views of a HM, that encourages people who agree.

But the belief that the presenter is biased can make an unfortunate difference too.
Veri
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by Arthur_B:
“I can think of FAR more cases where Davina showed bias in interviews - it's not even close for me. And yes, Emma isn't consistant, but neither was Davina.

Emma isn't impartial, but she's more impartial than Davina was.”

I don't think Emma is more impartial than Davina. There may well be more cases when Davina showed bias, but she also presented the show for longer.
Bunions
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by Veri:
“Viewers can be influenced even though they don't "slavishly do as she commands".

There's a curious phenomenon both in politics and re BB that many people can believe both

(1) That people think for themselves, make up their own minds, etc; and
(2) That people are misled by edits, highlights, the MSM, whatever.

The way they typically resolve this is often to think (1) about people they agree with, and (2) about people they don't.

They may fail to notice that both can be true of the same people, including themselves, for when people do their thinking and make up their minds, they do not ignore what they've seen and heard, and if the information they're getting is biased, that bias can affect their thinking. (That doesn't mean they necessarily reach the conclusion the bias is pointing towards, or even that they all reach the same conclusion as each other.)

A presenter's comments can make a difference, especially since viewers know the presenter is in a position to know more than they do. One effect we're seen recently is that when the presenter expresses negative views of a HM, that encourages people who agree.

But the belief that the presenter is biased can make an unfortunate difference too.”

Since the presenter of the main show only gets to interview the HMs once they've been evicted, what difference could any bias (whether real or perceived) possibly make to anything?

By the time the interview takes place, the GBP have already made up their minds - the voting has been done, counted and verified so who would the interviewer be influencing?
Menk
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by Bunions:
“Since the presenter of the main show only gets to interview the HMs once they've been evicted, what difference could any bias (whether real or perceived) possibly make to anything?

By the time the interview takes place, the GBP have already made up their minds - the voting has been done, counted and verified so who would the interviewer be influencing?”

In Heavy D's interview last night, Emma referred to one group of HMs as 'the nice housemates'.

She has also made her feelings clear about her dislike for certain HMs - eg Bear.

This is obviously about HMs who the public will still get to vote for.
KT_Dog
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by Veri:
“Viewers can be influenced even though they don't "slavishly do as she commands".

There's a curious phenomenon both in politics and re BB that many people can believe both

(1) That people think for themselves, make up their own minds, etc; and
(2) That people are misled by edits, highlights, the MSM, whatever.

The way they typically resolve this is often to think (1) about people they agree with, and (2) about people they don't.

They may fail to notice that both can be true of the same people, including themselves, for when people do their thinking and make up their minds, they do not ignore what they've seen and heard, and if the information they're getting is biased, that bias can affect their thinking. (That doesn't mean they necessarily reach the conclusion the bias is pointing towards, or even that they all reach the same conclusion as each other.)

A presenter's comments can make a difference, especially since viewers know the presenter is in a position to know more than they do. One effect we're seen recently is that when the presenter expresses negative views of a HM, that encourages people who agree.

But the belief that the presenter is biased can make an unfortunate difference too.”

Your posts are often very sensible and well thought out. So I'd be interested in your take on the current happenings re manipulation and bias over Bear.

On the one hand we have 'Big Brother' itself (by which I mean 'the show') who according to many FM's is keen for Bear to make it to the final and ideally to win. The belief is that they are achieving this by featuring him in every edit and that a pre-arranged 'redemption story' is about to be brought into full swing as we approach the final weeks. This according to many people is manipulating potential voters into liking him.

On the other hand we have 'Emma' who is, arguably, the 'face of the show' and who FM's believe should remain impartial. This series, perhaps more than any other, she has chosen to make her feelings on the housemates known and in particular her dislike of Bear. This according to many people is manipulating potential voters into disliking him.

This might be the first time I can think of when 'Big Brother' and 'The Face Of The Show' seem to be pulling in different directions.

So would that mean a Bear-fan (for want of a better term) would agree with the edit but believe Emma is manipulating voters - whilst a Bear-hater (for want of a better term) would agree with Emma but believe the show is trying to manipulate voters?

Are both sides of the Bear-camp convinced the other side is being manipulated?

Does it all kind of cancel itself out?
Xuri
17-08-2016
I don't think Emma is manipulating anybody. So there isn't much of a contradiction with my position.

I don't think it's about the win so much as it is about the promotion.
peterstone
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by confuddled:
“out of interest do you know what cretin means? seriously?”

Yes, Heavy D and Bear
peterstone
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by keeping_it_rea1:
“reasonable thinking people don't take this show to seriously anymore ”

I never did take it seriously
Bunions
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by KT_Dog:
“Your posts are often very sensible and well thought out. So I'd be interested in your take on the current happenings re manipulation and bias over Bear.

On the one hand we have 'Big Brother' itself (by which I mean 'the show') who according to many FM's is keen for Bear to make it to the final and ideally to win. The belief is that they are achieving this by featuring him in every edit and that a pre-arranged 'redemption story' is about to be brought into full swing as we approach the final weeks. This according to many people is manipulating potential voters into liking him.

On the other hand we have 'Emma' who is, arguably, the 'face of the show' and who FM's believe should remain impartial. This series, perhaps more than any other, she has chosen to make her feelings on the housemates known and in particular her dislike of Bear. This according to many people is manipulating potential voters into disliking him.

This might be the first time I can think of when 'Big Brother' and 'The Face Of The Show' seem to be pulling in different directions.

So would that mean a Bear-fan (for want of a better term) would agree with the edit but believe Emma is manipulating voters - whilst a Bear-hater (for want of a better term) would agree with Emma but believe the show is trying to manipulate voters?

Are both sides of the Bear-camp convinced the other side is being manipulated?

Does it all kind of cancel itself out?”

Definitely maybe
rhumble
17-08-2016
I love the fact he thinks everyone is shouting BOOM at him, when really they are booing him
Xuri
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by rhumble:
“I love the fact he thinks everyone is shouting BOOM at him, when really they are booing him ”

It's like Mr. Burns in the Simpsons thinking a crowd were shouting "BOOO...ERNS!".
Bunions
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by Menk:
“In Heavy D's interview last night, Emma referred to one group of HMs as 'the nice housemates'.

She has also made her feelings clear about her dislike for certain HMs - eg Bear.

This is obviously about HMs who the public will still get to vote for.”

Are you sure? I thought she said that on BOTS?

In any event, a day is a very long time on BB. I honestly don't believe that what Emma says on one show will be remembered by the time the next eviction rolls around.

If that were the case, they wouldn't keep knobbling the edit to discredit/enhance certain HMs on eviction night HLs which is what people seem to base their voting decisions on

IDK why she gets such a hard time on here. I thinks she does a good job considering some of the cretins she has to try and conduct a coherent conversation with..
Cheri
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by Veri:
“Jealousy doesn't have to be rational.

in any case, Emma could be biased against young, attractive women without jealousy being the reason.”

The mantra on this forum that whenever a woman calls out or has a bad opinion on another woman she's 'jealous' is the dumbest thing ever.
Bunions
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by Cheri:
“The mantra on this forum that whenever a woman calls out or has a bad opinion on another woman she's 'jealous' is the dumbest thing ever.”

It's not just on this forum, I think it's IRL in general.

The same accusation doesn't seem to be levelled at men either - they're free to dislike whoever they wish, totally unencumbered by the jealousy accusation.
lon_chaney
17-08-2016
It is paradoxical that Emma is making it quite clear that she despises alot of the housemates , which seems at odds with the direction the producers want to take the show in.
So does Emma jump ship in protest or continue presenting and slagging of the hms or continue presenting but in a more detatched and impartial (professional) manner.
Idk but as heavy D said if you cant stand the kitchen get out of the kitchen
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