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I MIGHT be turned around on Bear IF...
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chameleon212
16-08-2016
he turns against Lewis.

Bear is a nightmare but I honestly can't stand Lewis' inflated sense of self-worth. The one positive contribution Heavy D had was being able to get under Lewis' skin so easily.

If Bear could focus his vitriol towards the one person in the house that actually deserves it I might start to tolerate him the same way I began to tolerate Heavy D.

Won't happen though as Bear will only pick on people he sees as weaker than him.
keeping_it_rea1
17-08-2016
Heavy D couldn't get under Bears skin even if he tried, you're just not getting it are you? ..Bear does not care ...besides deep inside he really is a care bear ;o) lol

You guys learned nothing from Jason Burrill's big brother uk 2016 victory afew weeks ago didn't you's?

the more venom and dirt you throw at Bear the more he will most likely win, the public don't like it when one of the big brother house mate characters is so one sidedly victimized and berated ...bear wins either way

to funny! lol
Scarlett Berry
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by keeping_it_rea1:
“Heavy D couldn't get under Bears skin even if he tried, you're just not getting it are you? ..Bear does not care ...besides deep inside he really is a care bear ;o) lol

You guys learned nothing from Jason Burrill's big brother uk 2016 victory afew weeks ago didn't you's?

the more venom and dirt you throw at Bear the more he will most likely win, the public don't like it when one of the big brother house mate characters is so one sidedly victimized and berated ...bear wins either way

to funny! lol”

Victimized...first lol moment of the day.

Now that is too funny
sorcha_healy27
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by keeping_it_rea1:
“Heavy D couldn't get under Bears skin even if he tried, you're just not getting it are you? ..Bear does not care ...besides deep inside he really is a care bear ;o) lol

You guys learned nothing from Jason Burrill's big brother uk 2016 victory afew weeks ago didn't you's?

the more venom and dirt you throw at Bear the more he will most likely win, the public don't like it when one of the big brother house mate characters is so one sidedly victimized and berated ...bear wins either way

to funny! lol”

Bear being victimised. Pmsl
Zarla
17-08-2016
He's eternally nominated which could be seen as victimization. His girl Chloe was also nominated deliberately to hurt him by Renee and the public voted her out.

But many viewers are enjoying the laugh out loud nature of Bear's antics and this is the reason he'll win. Bitter pearl clutchers on here will make no difference to that outcome.
Scarlett Berry
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“Bear being victimised. Pmsl ”

The delusion is unintentionally funny.
mcworster
17-08-2016
Bear has chosen to wind up his housemates, being isolated seems to be his game plan , he doesn't need any defending. This is what he wants.
Scots rool
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by keeping_it_rea1:
“Heavy D couldn't get under Bears skin even if he tried, you're just not getting it are you? ..Bear does not care ...besides deep inside he really is a care bear ;o) lol

You guys learned nothing from Jason Burrill's big brother uk 2016 victory afew weeks ago didn't you's?

the more venom and dirt you throw at Bear the more he will most likely win, the public don't like it when one of the big brother house mate characters is so one sidedly victimized and berated ...bear wins either way

to funny! lol”

Have you forgotten to take your meds this morning\?

Bear is the person who has bullied/harrassed/victimised, & berated the majority of HM's in there on a perpetual loop for 3 weeks.
bluegroper
17-08-2016
Bear is a bully and a coward. He will only pick on HM's weaker then himself and hasn't the guts to start anything with Lewis. Don't forget how he responded to the security guard quickly backing off and cowering in the chair!
keeping_it_rea1
17-08-2016
Bears not going to change for anyone, get that out your head right now lol

Not going to happen, Bear is unmistakably bear, for good or worse

He might be silly and act a fool but to me he's a total crackup, made the show worth watching "FOR ME!" this season...
lon_chaney
17-08-2016
The housemates have actually done quite well in not marginalizing and isolating Bear , which given the provocation you could actually understand if they had of done so.
The only ones who i feel have tried to isolate Bear are Ricky and possibly Katie , or maybe more accurately tried to isolate themselves from Bear.
With bears friends being progressively whittled down in the house the potential for Bear to become isolated increases and so does the potential for him to be portrayed as being sympathy worthy.
I guess it just depends if viewers thinks a person who has acted like Bear deserves sympathy under any circumstances - probably a lot of the hardened old moaners on the forum will hold onto their bitter dislike and refuse to have any sympathy , but other people with kinder and more forgiving natures will soften their attitudes.
julie_tredgold
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by keeping_it_rea1:
“Bears not going to change for anyone, get that out your head right now lol

Not going to happen, Bear is unmistakably bear, for good or worse

He might be silly and act a fool but to me he's a total crackup, made the show worth watching "FOR ME!" this season...”

I agree , bears biggest mistake in that house was turning Renee down , she wanted to control him and he was not having any of it plus he does not fancy her bear is a cool cucumber he makes me laugh , nothing gets to him . without bear the show would of been a bore fest
Jim_Bob5
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by chameleon212:
“he turns against Lewis.

Bear is a nightmare but I honestly can't stand Lewis' inflated sense of self-worth. The one positive contribution Heavy D had was being able to get under Lewis' skin so easily.

If Bear could focus his vitriol towards the one person in the house that actually deserves it I might start to tolerate him the same way I began to tolerate Heavy D.

Won't happen though as Bear will only pick on people he sees as weaker than him.”

Lewis doesn't really have an inflated sense of self-worth, if anything it's the opposite. Those things he says are to constantly reassure himself to assuage his insecurity and persistent self-doubt.

Someone who is comfortable within themselves, doesn't have to go on like that.
muggins14
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by keeping_it_rea1:
“Bears not going to change for anyone, get that out your head right now lol

Not going to happen, Bear is unmistakably bear, for good or worse

He might be silly and act a fool but to me he's a total crackup, made the show worth watching "FOR ME!" this season...”

Here's a question for you then. Last night on Live Feed Bear was being sensible, having a conversation with James, Aubrey, Renee et al and being pleasant, acting like a grown-up. Nothing 'out there', nothing that made anybody (including the housemates) 'crackup'.

If he continued in that vein for the rest of the series, acted like a rational human being and stopped his act - would you still support him? Or is he only worthy of your support when he's putting on his act?
keeping_it_rea1
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by julie_tredgold:
“I agree , bears biggest mistake in that house was turning Renee down , she wanted to control him and he was not having any of it plus he does not fancy her bear is a cool cucumber he makes me laugh , nothing gets to him . without bear the show would of been a bore fest”

Finally! somebody on here with a modecate of intelligence, thank you!, i never thought it was going to happen lol

She was jealous has all get out and a scorned woman and rallied her troops to take bear and his crew out

it makes me laugh when all renee supporters profusely insist" "No NO NO!, she was not jealous, puh!

in total denial or living in a fantasy world? ..hmmm ...I think both maybe

God!, anybody but her to win, so phony and over the top that one is

thank the good lord people are seeing sense and keeping bad boye bear inside the house, could you imagine just Aubrey, frankie and renee as our main entertainment?,

i'd shit bricks "not to point too finer point on it"
keeping_it_rea1
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“Here's a question for you then. Last night on Live Feed Bear was being sensible, having a conversation with James, Aubrey, Renee et al and being pleasant, acting like a grown-up. Nothing 'out there', nothing that made anybody (including the housemates) 'crackup'.

If he continued in that vein for the rest of the series, acted like a rational human being and stopped his act - would you still support him? Or is he only worthy of your support when he's putting on his act?”

Well here is a quick and sweet answer for you:

NO!, Bear would not lose my support, the rest are phony's trying to play their hiding under the radar not trying to make to much of a noise routine, it's an old tried and tested game plan that often fails

i'll throw one back at you: so just because bear had a good and sensible non-eratic exchange in a rational conversation with those 3 housemates does that mean you think! he should now be voted out because he wasn't jumping up and down like a German jellybean and not being totally entertaining for once?

Unlike the others who have for the most part just sat their like boring soggy sponges trying to camouflage their way to the 1st place finishing podium

maybe those 3 finally grew up and found the right way of approaching bear for once instead of plotting and scheming to get him and his 3 other musketeers out of the house ..hmmm, it's a possibility maybe

good for all 4 of them, it's good to hear they have seemingly found a happy place
ForGodsSake
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by Zarla:
“He's eternally nominated which could be seen as victimization. His girl Chloe was also nominated deliberately to hurt him by Renee and the public voted her out.

But many viewers are enjoying the laugh out loud nature of Bear's antics and this is the reason he'll win. Bitter pearl clutchers on here will make no difference to that outcome.”

I don't know anyone that likes Bear ???
He's a nasty individual who will win not because he deserves it or is more liked but because Big bro have decided he will to get more viewers for his new show.

Voting is futile.

Goodbye Big Brother, it was nice knowing you.
chameleon212
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by keeping_it_rea1:
“Heavy D couldn't get under Bears skin even if he tried, you're just not getting it are you? ..Bear does not care ...besides deep inside he really is a care bear ;o) lol

You guys learned nothing from Jason Burrill's big brother uk 2016 victory afew weeks ago didn't you's?

the more venom and dirt you throw at Bear the more he will most likely win, the public don't like it when one of the big brother house mate characters is so one sidedly victimized and berated ...bear wins either way

to funny! lol”

First bit in bold, I said Lewis not Bear.

That said, there is a certain mirror in the house that might disagree with you.

Second bit in bold, if you actually read what I wrote you'd realise this thread is somewhat in FAVOUR of Bear.

Like a lot of Bear's supporters you are being unnecessarily touchy over even the mildest of criticisms towards him.

That LOSES support for HM's.

I still stand by my OP however, if Bear can get under Lewis' skin (re-read those two names carefully before you start talking about random housemates again) I might be won over the same way I was with Heavy D.
chameleon212
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by bluegroper:
“Bear is a bully and a coward. He will only pick on HM's weaker then himself and hasn't the guts to start anything with Lewis. Don't forget how he responded to the security guard quickly backing off and cowering in the chair!”

Which is why I won't be holding my breath. Now that he has no backup I expect he'll either implode OR start grovelling to the other housemates which would also be quite entertaining if it happens.
al_capo
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“Here's a question for you then. Last night on Live Feed Bear was being sensible, having a conversation with James, Aubrey, Renee et al and being pleasant, acting like a grown-up. Nothing 'out there', nothing that made anybody (including the housemates) 'crackup'.

If he continued in that vein for the rest of the series, acted like a rational human being and stopped his act - would you still support him? Or is he only worthy of your support when he's putting on his act?”

How do you know its an act? Even the most crazy and difficult people can have nice moments. He has gotten on well with Aubrey for a few days now, I think he fancies her. I see a bit of a glint in his eye when he is talking to her. Bear seems to draw the housemates in, then he will do something that winds them all up. Im not doubting that he hasn't done things in that house just for air time but that's his background. He is trained in reality Tv, he was exactly the same on EOTB. I watched BB and the new EOTB last night and it was exactly the same Bear on both. So I really dont think it is all an act, I think he is just a bit of an arsehole.
al_capo
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by chameleon212:
“Which is why I won't be holding my breath. Now that he has no backup I expect he'll either implode OR start grovelling to the other housemates which would also be quite entertaining if it happens. ”

Marnies cousin is going in tonight as a visitor to confront Lewis and Bear. So I would expect to see them stick together.
al_capo
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by chameleon212:
“First bit in bold, I said Lewis not Bear.

That said, there is a certain mirror in the house that might disagree with you.

Second bit in bold, if you actually read what I wrote you'd realise this thread is somewhat in FAVOUR of Bear.

Like a lot of Bear's supporters you are being unnecessarily touchy over even the mildest of criticisms towards him.

That LOSES support for HM's.

I still stand by my OP however, if Bear can get under Lewis' skin (re-read those two names carefully before you start talking about random housemates again) I might be won over the same way I was with Heavy D.”

BB needs to stir it up a bit. Maybe play the footage of Lewis slagging Bear off to the house.
al_capo
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by lon_chaney:
“The housemates have actually done quite well in not marginalizing and isolating Bear , which given the provocation you could actually understand if they had of done so.
The only ones who i feel have tried to isolate Bear are Ricky and possibly Katie , or maybe more accurately tried to isolate themselves from Bear.
With bears friends being progressively whittled down in the house the potential for Bear to become isolated increases and so does the potential for him to be portrayed as being sympathy worthy.
I guess it just depends if viewers thinks a person who has acted like Bear deserves sympathy under any circumstances - probably a lot of the hardened old moaners on the forum will hold onto their bitter dislike and refuse to have any sympathy , but other people with kinder and more forgiving natures will soften their attitudes.”

Lewis said to him that he should make more of an effort wit people. Bears reply was simply "This isn't a holiday camp, its a game". Tbf he has made an effort with Aubrey lately and he seems to get on with James judging by the LF.
BBoldie2013
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by keeping_it_rea1:
“Heavy D couldn't get under Bears skin even if he tried, you're just not getting it are you? ..Bear does not care ...besides deep inside he really is a care bear ;o) lol

You guys learned nothing from Jason Burrill's big brother uk 2016 victory afew weeks ago didn't you's?

the more venom and dirt you throw at Bear the more he will most likely win, the public don't like it when one of the big brother house mate characters is so one sidedly victimized and berated ...bear wins either way

to funny! lol”

Wow! Your posts are all so rude and aggressive (and full of grammatical errors) and you haven't even understood the OPs post.

Too funny lol!
hunkydory
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by chameleon212:
“he turns against Lewis.

Bear is a nightmare but I honestly can't stand Lewis' inflated sense of self-worth. The one positive contribution Heavy D had was being able to get under Lewis' skin so easily.

If Bear could focus his vitriol towards the one person in the house that actually deserves it I might start to tolerate him the same way I began to tolerate Heavy D.

Won't happen though as Bear will only pick on people he sees as weaker than him.”

agree he can be a pain but he isnt afraid of any of them to him they are all fair game
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