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Old 17-08-2016, 00:35
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I mean the way people were describing the accent. It's done every time some has an accent that isn't 'accepted' on here, like street slang. People start acting like Judge Rinder and pretending not to know what anything means.

Bob Marley also never sounded like anything Jackson sounded like.
Fair point, the ridicule was because the accent kept changing, but the form it took was a bit prejudiced.
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Old 17-08-2016, 00:36
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Jackson was more Daffy Duck than Bob Marley.
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Old 17-08-2016, 00:37
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People who are 1/4 black are still mixed race. You couldn't be more wrong.
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Old 17-08-2016, 00:37
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Yes there was. Get the Irish Gypsy Out was the exact wording of the thread title. It caused plenty of comment at the time.
ok i will take your word i hope it was removed.
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Old 17-08-2016, 00:39
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People who are 1/4 black are still mixed race. You couldn't be more wrong.
yes they are to an extenct but ,my point is in most cases they look more or less white and when they have kids the generation ends up white eventually, i know cause i know lots of people like this.
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Old 17-08-2016, 00:40
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ok i will take your word i hope it was removed.
I think it was, yeah. It certainly caused lots of complaint.
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Old 17-08-2016, 00:45
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My daughter is 1/4 black as I am half and my partner is white, kindly do not tell me my daughter is not mixed race. I know my daughtrr's ethnicity better than anyone.

And although I know what you are saying most people 1/4 look white, I also have known people like this, I know and have met lots of people of different races, and also mixes of races.

But in my situation you're completely mislead. My daughter is golden brown and certainly doesn't pass for white, even though she is 3/4.
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Old 17-08-2016, 00:47
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Talking of regrowth, I never noticed so much as a whisper of rootage on Jayne, she remained a suspiciously shiny platinum blonde the entire series.

Wonder is she was naturally grey/white and the contrast was less visible?
Hard to say really. Back in the day they didn't seem to be allowed to take hair colour in with them. So the roots grew unless they got a chance to order dye in a successful shopping task. Now they seem to be able to get such things for the asking or perhaps can take it in. It maybe she was doing her roots throughout.
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Old 17-08-2016, 00:48
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You could always call Ofcom



Yes, they could do with yet another laugh.
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Old 17-08-2016, 00:52
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oh it really wined me up the way people went on about jackson and his accent.



In the same way that Jackson flip flopping in and out of his very contrived accent wound others up.
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Old 17-08-2016, 01:00
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I know like I said in my post, Natalie and Jackson were made to be something much worse than they were because they were loud and talked 'street' in Jackson case. But when Jason actually destroyed property and talked about 'ain't no security gonna stop me etc' then everyone was ghost on here. When Jackson said he felt intimidated people were saying he was talking shiit because he talked with a street accent.

But Heavy got his karma with that drink in his face. He been plucking folks' last nerve for the duration of his time and he tried the wrong one. I don't like Lewis but Heavy needed that 'punk out' that he got. Old bitchass.
So your reasons for disliking Heavy are genuine, but when someone else has a negative opinion of a non-white HM that you happen to disagree with, suddenly you're comfortable labelling them as racists. Says it all.
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Old 17-08-2016, 01:00
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I mean the way people were describing the accent. It's done every time some has an accent that isn't 'accepted' on here, like street slang. People start acting like Judge Rinder and pretending not to know what anything means.

Bob Marley also never sounded like anything Jackson sounded like.



Have you ever considered that the 'street slang' accent is ridiculed because it really IS an incredibly stupid way to speak? I find it as contrived as a seven year old adopting a super hero voice.
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Old 17-08-2016, 01:09
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So your reasons for disliking Heavy are genuine, but when someone else has a negative opinion of a non-white HM that you happen to disagree with, suddenly you're comfortable labelling them as racists. Says it all.
Because that's exactly what I said y'all.

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Natalie was called everything from aggressive to angry black woman. Which I was then called when I called out the lowkey racist bullshiit.

Jason actually destroyed property and everyone was like JASON SO GREAT Y'ALL.
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Old 17-08-2016, 01:11
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Have you ever considered that the 'street slang' accent is ridiculed because it really IS an incredibly stupid way to speak? I find it as contrived as a seven year old adopting a super hero voice.
Calling it 'ghetto' and 'talking black' is stupid and offensive. Was Georgina talking 'white'?

What's the issue with talking in slang? If people grew up speaking it then how is it bothering you?

I think the vocal fry that most girls do when they speak is the dumbest thing ever but I don't boycott every white valley girl I meet.
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Old 17-08-2016, 01:41
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I mean the way people were describing the accent. It's done every time some has an accent that isn't 'accepted' on here, like street slang. People start acting like Judge Rinder and pretending not to know what anything means.
Really? Then I guess you'd have no problem coming up with half a dozen or so examples of these 'unacceptable' accents being targeted? The only accent(s) besides Jackson's I recall being mocked is Abs from Five's similarly ridiculous affectation. And that's the point, people are mocking the affectation, because the accent is fake. It's inverted Hyacinth Bucket syndrome. Anyone who's met (or been) a 14 year-old chav will be familiar with it. There are genuine accents that they're trying and failing to emulate; accents which you're either unaware of, unable to discern, or simply so blinkered by your agenda that you're unwilling to admit.
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Old 17-08-2016, 01:44
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I remember earlier in the year commenting on how the HMs claimed they felt "unsafe" around Tiffany. That pissed off a few people on here I recall.
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Old 17-08-2016, 01:54
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Because that's exactly what I said y'all.

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Natalie was called everything from aggressive to angry black woman. Which I was then called when I called out the lowkey racist bullshiit.

Jason actually destroyed property and everyone was like JASON SO GREAT Y'ALL.
When was she called an "angry black woman"?

Jason was a soft-spoken, passive character 99% of the time, even when constantly prodded by Charlie, Hughie et al. Natalie was a vindictive, chippy cow from the outset. Staggered that you can't see the difference. Natalie also never destroyed property that I'm aware of, so I'm not sure how you can claim unequal treatment, but I'm not surprised that you are.
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Old 17-08-2016, 02:03
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Wow.....may be people are challenged because of their disposition and behaviour. Why do people use ethnicity as some sort of justification when it isn't? Odd

How many white folk have been on the end of attacks and tensions????? Oh that's not apparent or relevant right?

I'm all for this debate when its justified but the three incidents above really have no suggestions of being about race?????

Natalie was a horror, Brian was just Mr negative (she also hated Nikkei it was more about being fake legends), Lewis is a mug attacking another mug.

The ship's incident has no comparisons and it weakens real instances of prejudice and racism.

As for mocking Jackson's change of accent......is the same not being criticised regarding Katie?

You will see what you wish to if you look for it.

For reference.....Jason was aggressive and calculating and not a worthy winner. A view shared by many. I wonder why he hasn't been on BB since?
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Old 17-08-2016, 06:07
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Silly and worthless thread... moving on.........
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Old 17-08-2016, 06:17
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Jade's dad was the mixed race one from what I remember.
That still makes Jade mixed race
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Old 17-08-2016, 07:32
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Silly and worthless thread... moving on.........
LOL oh the irony of someone saying this crap and then having that screen name .
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Old 17-08-2016, 07:34
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Silly and worthless thread... moving on.........
Is this your thought of the day.
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Old 17-08-2016, 07:36
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Wow.....may be people are challenged because of their disposition and behaviour. Why do people use ethnicity as some sort of justification when it isn't? Odd

How many white folk have been on the end of attacks and tensions????? Oh that's not apparent or relevant right?

I'm all for this debate when its justified but the three incidents above really have no suggestions of being about race?????

Natalie was a horror, Brian was just Mr negative (she also hated Nikkei it was more about being fake legends), Lewis is a mug attacking another mug.

The ship's incident has no comparisons and it weakens real instances of prejudice and racism.

As for mocking Jackson's change of accent......is the same not being criticised regarding Katie?

You will see what you wish to if you look for it.

For reference.....Jason was aggressive and calculating and not a worthy winner. A view shared by many. I wonder why he hasn't been on BB since?
The difference is when white housemates are attacked there's usually a big reaction. But when ethnic housemates are on the end of it there's always excuses and justification brought forth. Simply put the rules are different for ethnic housemates. When Natalie raised her voice "she's a bully...she's vile...she's an animal" blah blah blha. When Jayne got aggressive and made threats there wasn't a whisper. Now Lewis gets aggressive and it's been swept under the carpet again and the victim is evicted.
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Old 17-08-2016, 07:42
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Jade's dad was the mixed race one from what I remember.
You remember correctly. "Jackey" was in CBB with Jade during the Shilpa row.
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Old 17-08-2016, 07:46
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Can't say that I have noticed Ricky being bullied (apart from the group bulling being dished out by Bear) and he is mixed race.
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