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The hidden cost of Bear being auto up
Barracute
17-08-2016
is that as the hms cannot nominate him now and he is up regardless whatever he does, plus the public have not voted him out when given more than one chance.......

he has no reason to change his ways..... as he has nothing to fear!

ergo by putting him permanently up every week it has made him untouchable - there is nothing the hms can do no matter how annoyed they get with him - they cannot nominate him - which is normally the ultimate form of revenge, they have been rendered powerless.

He has no reason to fear the hms as they cannot nom him as he is up anyway, and no reason to fear the public votes as they have kept him in repeatedly - hence why his behavior continues unabated and will do until the end.

So thats what it boils down and why Bear cannot be tamed - and you know whose fault that was!
Lee_Bo
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by Barracute:
“is that as the hms cannot nominate him now and he is up regardless whatever he does, plus the public have not voted him out when given more than one chance.......

he has no reason to change his ways..... as he has nothing to fear!

ergo by putting him permanently up every week it has made him untouchable - there is nothing the hms can do no matter how annoyed they get with him - they cannot nominate him - which is normally the ultimate form of revenge, they have been rendered powerless.

He has no reason to fear the hms as they cannot nom him as he is up anyway, and no reason to fear the public votes as they have kept him in repeatedly - hence why his behavior continues unabated and will do until the end.

So thats what it boils down and why Bear cannot be tamed - and you know whose fault that was!”

It almost seems like a clever manipulation by the producers

Credit to them for getting him enough votes to stay in every week.

Not to detract from your post, you made good points. It would have been a very different game if it was VTE
rhizo_mania
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by Barracute:
“is that as the hms cannot nominate him now and he is up regardless whatever he does, plus the public have not voted him out when given more than one chance.......

he has no reason to change his ways..... as he has nothing to fear!

ergo by putting him permanently up every week it has made him untouchable - there is nothing the hms can do no matter how annoyed they get with him - they cannot nominate him - which is normally the ultimate form of revenge, they have been rendered powerless.

He has no reason to fear the hms as they cannot nom him as he is up anyway, and no reason to fear the public votes as they have kept him in repeatedly - hence why his behavior continues unabated and will do until the end.

So thats what it boils down and why Bear cannot be tamed - and you know whose fault that was!”


It's just another Helen situation, except she was not as relentless as him, in fact she was nicer.
JoJo4
17-08-2016
Totally agree Barra - Bear is everything which is abhorrent about young people of his ilk.

He is so bloody cocky and clearly feels he is untouchable.

I fear that he will win - and what kind of message does that send to young people who try to live a productive and reasonable life???

Just a minor irritation in the scheme of life with Bear - why does he wear socks with sandals???? Someone needs to tell him it's not a good look, it annoys me every time I see him!
lon_chaney
17-08-2016
Plus Bear being auto nominated it takes away the easy nomination option so the other Hms have to choose someone else thats going to be less comfortable for them and more contraversial.
Dante Ameche
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by JoJo4:
“Totally agree Barra - Bear is everything which is abhorrent about young people of his ilk.

He is so bloody cocky and clearly feels he is untouchable.

I fear that he will win - and what kind of message does that send to young people who try to live a productive and reasonable life???


Just a minor irritation in the scheme of life with Bear - why does he wear socks with sandals???? Someone needs to tell him it's not a good look, it annoys me every time I see him!”

I know what you mean, they're gonna forget their degrees, and throw away all their hard work and ambitions in their chosen field of work in order to go on reality shows and behave like a prized idiot.
JVS
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by rhizo_mania:
“It's just another Helen situation, except she was not as relentless as him, in fact she was nicer.”

You really think Helen Wood was nicer??????

The good thing about Bear's permanent nomination and Heavy D being evicted is that the soft options have gone - there are loads of votes going begging, putting fence-sitters in the firing line.
Menk
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by Dante Ameche:
“I know what you mean, they're gonna forget their degrees, and throw away all their hard work and ambitions in their chosen field of work in order to go on reality shows and behave like a prized idiot.”

Aimee
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by rhizo_mania:
“It's just another Helen situation, except she was not as relentless as him, in fact she was nicer.”

Although Helen was SAFE, not up every week, so this is different.

This is not today I don't agree with the OP, it does mean he has nothing to lose by behaving badly, he can't BE nominated.
RenThraysk
17-08-2016
And the only thing was keeping him calmer was Chloe.

And these idiots actually chose to evict her.
Gaz22
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by rhizo_mania:
“It's just another Helen situation, except she was not as relentless as him, in fact she was nicer.”

No way in blue hell was Helen nicer.

Helen wasn't a wind up. She always meant the **** she came out with.

And I can't believe people are actually accusing BB of protecting Bear by putting him up every week. Talk about moving the goalposts.
Dante Ameche
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by Gaz22:
“No way in blue hell was Helen nicer.

Helen wasn't a wind up. She always meant the **** she came out with.

And I can't believe people are actually accusing BB of protecting Bear by putting him up every week. Talk about moving the goalposts. ”

The HMs put him up for eternal eviction although \i'm sure BB knew it would end up being him with the most votes but then be kept in by the public

It would have been nice when he was having a go at Sam saying he always took being nominated in his stride without complaining for one of them to remind him of him telling them they were all full of it and not to talk to him for the remainder of his time in the house.

If anyone thinks Helen was nicer, they must have only watched 30 seconds of launch night when she entered and wasn't speaking cos she was necking some champagne
ahoyy
18-08-2016
Originally Posted by rhizo_mania:
“It's just another Helen situation, except she was not as relentless as him, in fact she was nicer.”

Our Helen was lovely and a worthy winner. But our Bear is better.
xNATILLYx
18-08-2016
hopefully his fans , how he has any i don't know have run out of money saving him so he doesn't get enough votes to win.
then again these teenagers rack up phone bills first ,parents find out later. I say teens as i refuse to believe mature grown adults find bear funny or endearing.
ahoyy
18-08-2016
Originally Posted by xNATILLYx:
“hopefully his fans , how he has any i don't know have run out of money saving him so he doesn't get enough votes to win.
then again these teenagers rack up phone bills first ,parents find out later. I say teens as i refuse to believe mature grown adults find bear funny or endearing.”

As a mature, grown adult I must say that our Bear is doing a sterling job.
bluegroper
18-08-2016
Being put up for eternal nomination would be to his advantage I would think. And the producers knew that it would be him when they put this twist in. They must of had a wake up call when James got more saves then Bear and Chloe got evicted. Hopefully it is costing a lot of money to save him each time and if he wins there are people who are going to have large phone bills. Two out this time and hopefully one is Lewis as that will send a message to Bear he is the reason that his friends are being voted out.
dean_crawford
18-08-2016
Helen Wood was nicer? She was one of the most aggressive and vile people i've seen on this show. Bear is a d!ck and antagonistic, but he is also a wind up merchant. If you leave it alone, which i know is hard to do, you win. Helen was just a nasty nasty woman.

I think the best way to look at what Bear does is to see how Heavy D tried to copy him yesterday. I thought calling her an X-Factor reject to ruffle a few feathers was a step too far. I would rather someone act the fool pretending to break eggs than getting personal like that any day of the week.
Zarla
18-08-2016
Helen made malicious very personal comments to people - she called Danielle fat and someone else a maggot. There was more but I can't remember. Bear makes howler monkey noises and chucks eggs on the floor. I can't recall him saying a single offensive thing to an individual.
keeping_it_rea1
18-08-2016
Lmfao @ all the Bear hate

I can't wait until he wins ..the look on all your faces would be priceless lol ..BEST HOUSE MATE EVER! haha

The others are phonys, trying to act the quite nice guys holding back their real! personalities hoping it works lol to funny for words
Scots rool
18-08-2016
Originally Posted by keeping_it_rea1:
“Lmfao @ all the Bear hate

I can't wait until he wins ..the look on all your faces would be priceless lol ..BEST HOUSE MATE EVER! haha

The others are phonys, trying to act the quite nice guys holding back their real! personalities hoping it works lol to funny for words”

No-one could ever accuse Bear of being a ''nice guy''.......Odious creep who thinks he's funny & entertaining - no you aren't, you're a one trick pony & childish in the extreme!
julie_tredgold
18-08-2016
Originally Posted by ahoyy:
“As a mature, grown adult I must say that our Bear is doing a sterling job.”

I totally agree
I am a mature grandmother and would love for bear to win too . i might just place a bet
nattoyaki
18-08-2016
Another thing is that all the people who desperately want to see him out and only voted for others in the hope he might leave will probably have given up by now.

VTE and it sounds like he'd be long gone.
dirtyrat
18-08-2016
The good thing is it forces the others to pick the rest and show their true feelings.
If wasn't up every week. You'd probably never get the Sam and Audrey James votes and aftermath .
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