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Old 18-08-2016, 00:25
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There exploring a s/l about sexual consent which I'm sure they did with Jacqui and Gilly a few years back.
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Old 18-08-2016, 07:33
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After the recent cases involving sexual abuse and consent in the media It's a subject worth going over again. Especially when it has brought out a lot of ignorant opinions from people. I see it as a good thing for Hollyoaks to be challenging people's perceptions on such serious matters.

Massive opportunity for Sophie Porley to prove herself.
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Old 18-08-2016, 07:34
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After the recent cases involving sexual abuse and consent in the media It's a subject worth going over again. Especially when it has brought out a lot of ignorant opinions from people. I see it as a good thing for Hollyoaks to be challenging people's perceptions on such serious matters.

Massive opportunity for Sophie Porley to prove herself.
I agree but I can't see it being as excellent as the jacqui/Gilly storyline

Claire Cooper was absolutely wonderful..
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Old 18-08-2016, 09:15
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wish it was a different actress doing this story line
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Old 18-08-2016, 10:00
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Ah. Rehash of a storyline from a few years ago with lesser actors this time around
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Old 18-08-2016, 10:11
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There exploring a s/l about sexual consent which I'm sure they did with Jacqui and Gilly a few years back.
I saw this earlier. Think it will be a good story.

If you go on GD alot of posters will tell you if a girl has got passionate with you then its not rape and you dont actually need consent.

So I think its important stories like this get played out.

Interesting way to bring in a new character tho.
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Old 18-08-2016, 10:18
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Don't like Ellie or the actress much so cannot imagine this will be any good.
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Old 18-08-2016, 10:23
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I saw this earlier. Think it will be a good story.

If you go on GD alot of posters will tell you if a girl has got passionate with you then its not rape and you dont actually need consent.

So I think its important stories like this get played out.

Interesting way to bring in a new character tho.
Yep there's your proof. If its still a relevant issue that it needs repeating every 5 years thats not a stick to beat the show with.

I think the difference is this is a story aimed specifically at young people starting university or going to parties where they'll be meeting lots of new people.
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Old 18-08-2016, 10:29
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There exploring a s/l about sexual consent which I'm sure they did with Jacqui and Gilly a few years back.
Difference here seems to be Ellie has no memory of the incident whilst both Gilly and Jacqui did. Get your tin hats ready folks I predict it getting quite nasty on this forum over the upcoming sl.
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Old 18-08-2016, 10:37
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Difference here seems to be Ellie has no memory of the incident whilst both Gilly and Jacqui did. Get your tin hats ready folks I predict it getting quite nasty on this forum over the upcoming sl.
Exactly the reason I'm not looking forward to it. Think I'll be avoiding threads on this particular topic while the story is running. I've battled enough batshit crazy rape apologists on the DS forums in the last couple of years to know that this storyline won't make an ounce of difference to their understanding of how consent works.
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Old 18-08-2016, 10:39
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It sounds like a different story, jacqui and gilly were mates when he raped her. Saying it's a rehash is like saying every cheating story is a rehash of the earlier ones.
Also it's ronan from waterloo road i liked him in that hope he's good in this too.
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Old 18-08-2016, 11:02
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I always thought the Gilly plot was great - he genuinely thought she had consented and therefore didn't think it was rape. She thought otherwise.

I remember at the time Hollyoaks made a point not to tell you who was in the right - they left it for viewers to decide.

I do however think the plot should've ended when he was found not guilty. To then decide the he DID in fact rape her I thought backtracked and undermined the whole point of the storyline.
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Old 18-08-2016, 15:17
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Whether they leave it to viewers to decide or not rightly or wrongly soaps will always come out on the one side, and that's quite clear from the people they've been talking to in preparation for the story. No mention of any works with groups who work with people falsly accused of rape.
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Old 18-08-2016, 15:45
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In theory the grey area of consent is a very realistic subject to tackle. As proven before though with the Gilly/Jacqui storyline its a very difficult one to get right purely because it forces the audience to take sides and can't be left unanswered because viewers will always want to know which side was right and which side was wrong (probably not the right word but i can't think of another one) and get a proper conclusion. The Jacqui/Gilly storyline had exactly the same problem. The audience wanted an answer and either way we were going to be unsatisfyed. In the end they came down to Jacqui being the bigger more popular character therefore Gilly was cast out as the rapist realising his mistake and swiftly written out. Not sure how its really going to pan out for such a new regular character to be introduced to the show on such a difficult storyline to portray, not to mention under the current writers/storyliners who can't seem to help themselves but go OTT with everything. It'll be interesting to read the reviews this storyline gets.
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Old 18-08-2016, 17:55
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Where it could serve as a useful warning to all is that ignorance of the law is no defence in law.

If it goes some way to show how the law stands and how to help protect oneself from being falsely accused or a victim it might do some good but you just know that it will descend into forum rows and chaos.
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Old 18-08-2016, 18:30
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In theory the grey area of consent is a very realistic subject to tackle. As proven before though with the Gilly/Jacqui storyline its a very difficult one to get right purely because it forces the audience to take sides and can't be left unanswered because viewers will always want to know which side was right and which side was wrong (probably not the right word but i can't think of another one) and get a proper conclusion. The Jacqui/Gilly storyline had exactly the same problem. The audience wanted an answer and either way we were going to be unsatisfyed. In the end they came down to Jacqui being the bigger more popular character therefore Gilly was cast out as the rapist realising his mistake and swiftly written out. Not sure how its really going to pan out for such a new regular character to be introduced to the show on such a difficult storyline to portray, not to mention under the current writers/storyliners who can't seem to help themselves but go OTT with everything. It'll be interesting to read the reviews this storyline gets.
the cleo abuse story wasn't OTT in fact they did it very well and realisticly. I think this will be done the same
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Old 18-08-2016, 18:34
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I always thought the Gilly plot was great - he genuinely thought she had consented and therefore didn't think it was rape. She thought otherwise.

I remember at the time Hollyoaks made a point not to tell you who was in the right - they left it for viewers to decide.

I do however think the plot should've ended when he was found not guilty. To then decide the he DID in fact rape her I thought backtracked and undermined the whole point of the storyline.
That felt like such a cop-out because they needed a quick way to get rid off Gilly.

As for this new storyline, do we really trust HO to do it justice?
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Old 18-08-2016, 18:45
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That felt like such a cop-out because they needed a quick way to get rid off Gilly.

As for this new storyline, do we really trust HO to do it justice?
If it's anything like the JP rape storyline then I'm fearful
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Old 22-08-2016, 16:22
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God this sounds like it'll be really harrowing viewing, poor Ellie Though it sounds like if she can't remember anything from the night before then her drink must be spiked. I take it this guy coming in won't last too long then
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Old 22-08-2016, 16:24
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If they handle this storyline the apalling way they have handled Ste and his HIV, John Paul and his rape and Cindy and her Bi-Polar then I dont hold out much hope for this storyline
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Old 22-08-2016, 22:25
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God this sounds like it'll be really harrowing viewing, poor Ellie Though it sounds like if she can't remember anything from the night before then her drink must be spiked. I take it this guy coming in won't last too long then
No reason to suggest her drink has been spiked - it's just she got so bladdered she can't remember what she did. Hopefully it's portrayed that they both got bladdered, but one remembers and one doesn't. As I said before it would probably be more taboo breaking if they flipped it the other way.
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Old 23-08-2016, 11:16
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If they handle this storyline the apalling way they have handled Ste and his HIV, John Paul and his rape and Cindy and her Bi-Polar then I dont hold out much hope for this storyline
Ellie will probably end up in prison at the end of it with their current track record.
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