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Old 18-08-2016, 20:39
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This might be a bit controversial but is it time they went ?

DTC single handedly ruined this family.

Ian has a wife in Mcbeale who said she had left him for a job cheffing in wales but had actually left him to teach in scotland. she then comes back and chases Cindy away with her baby stealing ways, she marries Ian purely to cover up her and bobbys crimes.

So first up he has a wife just using him.

His daughter is dead as a result of the bobster and his wife
His son Peter left for new climes but was a drug dealing scum bag.
His final son Bobby is in prison for playing hockey with mcbeales head and killing his sister

then we have his ex wifes kids, as above cindy chased away by mcbeale
& Steven up to something and hanging round like a bad smell.

So Ian now has very little in the way of family.
the lucy story made him and mcbeale very unlikeable and they have had no commupance
Is it time they axed him and stopped with the stupid stories, replace the beales with a proper family that has family members in it.

Also, if the beales have gone, the constant hallucinations of Ian's dead mother would stop occuring

so axe or save?
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Old 18-08-2016, 20:43
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Why would you axe the backbone of the show?

EastEnders without the Beales is like Christmas without Santa Claus.
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Old 18-08-2016, 20:44
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No they maybe distorted atm but EE without a Beale is like Corrie without a Barlow, The Carters on the other hand could go tomorrow.
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Old 18-08-2016, 20:45
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No they shouldn't axe the Beales.

Ian has been there since day one, and I dont think he would ever leave on his own account, it would need a very brave producer to get rid of him.

I do agree DTC ruined the Beales, it was almost like he had decided to rip the heart out of the Beales before he took over.

It seemed very quick in his tenure, like he had planned it way back
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Old 18-08-2016, 20:46
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McBeale has to go... there's no way back from her horrific crimes. I heard that Sean O'Connor prefers that characters get their comeuppance, so I look forward to McBeale's sentencing soon.
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Old 18-08-2016, 20:47
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I say keep Ian, get rid of Jane. give him a new angle where he is addicted to prostitutes and other risky behaviour

But i do think he needs to be rested for 8 - 10 months again.
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Old 18-08-2016, 20:48
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Its a shame. I remember in early 2014 when Jane came back and they had scenes as a whole family - Ian, Jane, (and Denise), Peter, Lucy, Cindy, and Bobby. I really liked the Beales as a unit. 2 years later and the family is down to 4 members (Ian, Jane, Steven, and Kathy). Rebuilding the Beales is something that needs to happen, because at the moment they're morally repugnant and short on numbers that they can't get justice.
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Old 18-08-2016, 20:49
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DTC wanted his beloved Carters to be the main thing.

With the Beales/Mitchell's/Brannings, being the main family's for years, for the carters to get there screen time, he decided to ruin the Beales.

Probably because Adam Woodyatt probably didn't say anything, I cant imagine Steve McFadden or Jake Wood being such a easy touch if her ruined them.

I guess in a way he slightly ruined the Mitchell's, as he took the pub away from a family who had it for years
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Old 18-08-2016, 20:50
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Why would you axe the backbone of the show?

EastEnders without the Beales is like Christmas without Santa Claus.
because there now is only Ian!

His wife Mcbeale married him to cover up her crimes, she should soon rightfully be lovked up for life.

surely no other woman will now touch him with a bargepole.

no longer the backbone of the show the family has been destroyed and is not even a shadow of its former self
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Old 18-08-2016, 20:51
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Sorry but another post.

If they keep Jane inmobile her character will become a minor one, especially if she doesn't go any further than there living room
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Old 18-08-2016, 20:53
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Pauline had a number of siblings we've never seen I understand.

There's plenty of ways of reinvigorating one of the shows founding families.

Ian is massively damaged though and that's a shame given he's a touchstone "untouchable" character -one of the very few
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Old 18-08-2016, 20:55
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Its a shame. I remember in early 2014 when Jane came back and they had scenes as a whole family - Ian, Jane, (and Denise), Peter, Lucy, Cindy, and Bobby. I really liked the Beales as a unit. 2 years later and the family is down to 4 members (Ian, Jane, Steven, and Kathy). Rebuilding the Beales is something that needs to happen, because at the moment they're morally repugnant and short on numbers that they can't get justice.
This is the heart of the matter.

Kathy wouldn't ever have faked her own death like that. I have no idea why they brought her back as the character has done nothing since. She can't have a 'viewpoint' on any storylines as any character can just turn it round and say "well yes, but you let your sons believe you were dead for a decade." The only reason to possibly bring her back was that incompetent DTC wanted to be the one that did it for his own egotistical agenda.

McBeale tried to steal Cindy's baby, drove her out of the country, let 2 innocent people go to prison, made plans to ensure that her brother in law could be framed as well, dragged Lucy's body and flung it in a ditch, then had sex with the corpses father on the spot she dragged it from.

Nowhere for that repulsive character to go either. Putting her in a wheelchair isn't redemption, it's clear that imbecile DTC had absolutely no plan for a conclusion to the story so just chucked that in and expected the viewing public to accept it.
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Old 18-08-2016, 20:56
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Sorry but another post.

If they keep Jane inmobile her character will become a minor one, especially if she doesn't go any further than there living room
good!

tho as an aside when in her scene with grant the other week, I am sure she was trying to move cos she wanted to jump his bones.

Ian should be grateful at this point cos he wouldn't see her for dust
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Old 18-08-2016, 20:57
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Why would you axe the backbone of the show?

EastEnders without the Beales is like Christmas without Santa Claus.
The problem is I don't know if they're that anymore. Ian and Jane are now devoid of any moral fibre. Lou, Pete, Pauline and Arthur... none of these would've behaved in the same way they have over the past year or so.

I was initially excited by the Lucy plot but we've since lost Cindy and Peter and it's going to be hard for Bobby to be anything other than Ian's Nick.

I don't want them axed as Ian's got the status and I like Laurie as an actress, but they're very damaged and I think there's a way to go before viewers can root for them again. The police should've been involved in the Lucy climax just to wrap it up properly with a bit of artistic licence seeing Ian and Jane avoid lengthy sentences. The situation they're in now is kind of fascinating with Jane stuck in a bed right where Lucy died.
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Old 18-08-2016, 21:02
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Kathy wouldn't ever have faked her own death like that. I have no idea why they brought her back as the character has done nothing since. She can't have a 'viewpoint' on any storylines as any character can just turn it round and say "well yes, but you let your sons believe you were dead for a decade."
This is a very good point, JB, and it's one of the reasons Kathy is so wet these days. Really she should be the Beale matriarch; the moral force that holds them together and keeps them in check. But she can never take the moral high ground again after letting her sons believe she was dead for ten years. The character is in a bit of a mess and it needs to be addressed. I'd start by making her more independent. Keeping her living under Ian's roof is doing neither of them any favours.
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Old 18-08-2016, 21:06
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Sean O Connor doesn't like characters who haven't paid for there crimes does he, which if true Jane could be gone.

But saying that Phil Mitchell has done loads of crimes through the years, cant see him being axed
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Old 18-08-2016, 21:16
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Axe Jane. after everything she did she cannot be redeemed unless she is convicted for her crimes and comes back to the square after serving her sentence. And before I get lynched about other characters that have done dreadful things and got away with them, this discussion is about the Beale's and that's the way in feel. What Jane did was despicable and I couldn't care less about her as a character now.

Same goes for Kathy ; as J-B said, DTC was just fulfilling his own wishes by bringing her back without real thought of what effect it would have on the character of where she would fit in future stories. If she had been in a crash and suffered amnesia for many years that would have been ridiculously far fetched but more acceptable than the willingness to fake her own death and abandon her sons. I cannot take anything Kathy does seriously and it really don't want to listen to either her or Jane when they get on their moral high horse.

As for Ian, he still needs to leave the square but he does have the capacity to come back in. He should also serve a prison sentence for his part in the cover up and allowing max to go to jail ; it doesn't need to be very long - 3 -6 months and then that would kick start some new stories for him. Ian is a stalwart of the square but i do think he needs a break for him to remain viable.
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Old 18-08-2016, 21:24
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When they brought Kathy back, the storylines didn't even know anything about it. They've done the rest of it in a rushed klunky way and then put her in an affair
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Old 18-08-2016, 22:16
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Getting rid of the Beales, would be like Coronation Street getting rid of the Barlows.
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Old 18-08-2016, 22:27
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When they brought Kathy back, the storylines didn't even know anything about it. They've done the rest of it in a rushed klunky way and then put her in an affair
she has been back long enough for them to sort it out but they can't/choose not.

she should have stayed dead
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Old 18-08-2016, 22:29
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McBeale has to go... there's no way back from her horrific crimes. I heard that Sean O'Connor prefers that characters get their comeuppance, so I look forward to McBeale's sentencing soon.
I have a feeling Jane will be gone soon.
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Old 18-08-2016, 22:31
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I have a feeling Jane will be gone soon.
We can live in hope, Vastopher.
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Old 18-08-2016, 22:31
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Getting rid of the Beales, would be like Coronation Street getting rid of the Barlows.
No it wouldn't. The Beales only really consist of Ian and Jane ; Kathy is a Sullivan and was a beale by marriage only. The show survived her first death and would easily continue without her if she was to leave tomorrow. Jane is a loathsome creature who has done unspeakable things and who would not be missed one iota. Ian is not central to the show and in the early days it was arguably the fowlers that took centre stage over the beales. Ian took on that importance once pauline Fowler died. But with Martin back on the square we have the potential to put the fowlers back in their family home and build up a new legacy. EE without the beales - in their current format - is not a problem.
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Old 18-08-2016, 22:32
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I have a feeling Jane will be gone soon.
We can live in hope, Vastopher.
Keeping my fingers crossed
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Old 18-08-2016, 22:34
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I was surprised that Jane didn't leave a few months ago when she was planning to move to Birmingham with Christian and Auntie Mabel. Some of us thought that Bobby getting sent down would serve as the start of a surprise exit for Laurie Brett.
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