It wouldn't surprise me if this is all an act for Bear to "show" his sensitive side. Times don't change. In a bygone era, Bear would have been a London street urchin ducking, diving and lying to make a living and being as convincing as they come, he's no different in the Big Brother house.

Unreal. Then again, she isn't the brightest bulb in the box. The sad truth is, two very damaged people (Bear and Chloe) have found each other. I think that Bear, in a way, sabotaged his relationship with Lillie. The guy has no self-worth, deep down inside. He had real feelings for her, but knows he is not good enough. Believe it or not, as much as I disparage his behavior, there are times when I see a glimmer of hope (he does have some charisma and there are signs of humanity)... but sadly, they are dashed when he starts acting like an imbecile again. He would do well to seek some kind of therapy, but in the meantime, Lillie has escaped and potentially saved herself from further heartbreak.

Speaking of therapy, Aubrey was dead on. Bear has no idea who he really is. That girl has missed her calling. She'd make a GREAT shrink!

And they strike me as borderline sociopathic

So, let me get this straight - Bear and Lillie are in the NEW show - and they get together by the end of it.

Then Bear goes into BB - and the IDEA is that Bear doesn't get a girlfriend in the show, but is STILL with Lillie and they get mag deals together on the back of BB and the subsequent showing of EOTB?


Yet it seemed to me that Bear was pretty desperate to cop off with ANY girl in CBB, he went for Marnie and was annoyed by that failure, and then Aubrey who told him where to go, before settling on Chloe who was a pushover.

Now I don't believe for a second that Bear 'cares' about Chloe.

And I don't believe that he cares about Lillie either.

So - NO REALITY in either, but the scuppering of some plan that might have furthered his career - so he effed UP, basically.

And he didn't really think about it UNTIL Lillie came back and it made him look really, really bad and THAT'S what's upset him.

No one will ever believe now that he had any feelings for her at all, on either show.

No wonder Lillie is upset. And I thought she could act a bit too. Better than the others anyway.

Still, she can go on the NEXT ex on the beach as well, and so will Bear - it's like La Ronde.

Or next CBB

BIB She is highly intuitive, the comments she made about Big brother, which Judy James picked up on, were spot on.

I don't think he was ashamed of himself - he was just momentarily thrown off course and was strategizing as to what he could do next to recover from the possible public perception and how to best further his game .

Yes she is intuitive and articulate and I look forward to hearing her speak and ask questions which are normally quite loaded and pointed.

She is also quite funny - like with Frankie in live feed
But we don't get to see much of this because it's the Bear Show .

No, I don't think he was ashamed either. As you say, he was just trying to figure out how he could benefit from the situation.

she was their to get a paycheque and try to boost her low profile z of a career, her ex was a geordie shore lad, she knows the script

please watch the final

Sadly they will if there's money in it! And there are enough credulous twits willing to buy their mags/articles etc.

I'm not surprised it was an act, two talentless nobodys trying to further their already dubious claim to 'fame' with a fake scripted confrontation scene. And they probably will get a few more mag deals and appearances out of it before they fade away for good.

Rylan said on this morning that they'd been trying to get hold of her and she wasn't replying to them as they wanted to do it sooner (maybe even when Chloe was still in there - that'd be really awful!) but she just ignored them. Then apparently they saw some of her posts on the instagram/twitter pages and she was finally 'ready' to "confront" him.

Agreed. Bear has no idea what shame is. He probably thinks shame is a foreign bird he banged cos he's well fit innit.

That makes it Ok then..........he's now doing the, 'I did this for the greater good, I put her 1st'. 'I didn't want her to suffer a few months down the line'! What a guy, he should be given a medal for his selfless actions.
And he also expects all the HM's to feel sorry for him!

Absolute bull! He's full of it, I don't get why people on here, & in the house, are falling for his rubbish! The only person he cares about is himself! Odious creature.

This. Fake situation or not, they could have reserved judgment & not stood about gawking.


With all due respect, these judgments & many similar are all still supposition even if you are really confident of your ability to analyse some (at best) highly edited and (at worst) 'scripted' TV. I've never had a lot of truck with the psych evals anyway but that was back in the day when the HMs were as near to real as it was ever going to get on a TV game show & when they are aware of the cameras. Now I agree pretty much with the camp that think just watch it for what it is & forget buying into any sense of real selves in there.

Also: even if they were being far nearer 'themselves' I have issues with the idea of anyone knowing someone's motives better than they do. I may have no idea who I really am, but I'll defend to the death my right not to have anyone decide for me.
Example: Sam Fox's assertion that it was Bear's reason for nominating her that annoyed her, not the being nommed itself. She may have been lying through her teeth but I reserve the right for her to be believed, because it gets my goat that people do that 'this is what you feel really' thing. As with the jealousy issue that comes up so much - someone will say No I'm not - people will say You are really - & nothing you can do about it. So aggravating.

Him saying she's better off without him is probably the only time he's ever been completely honest.

I suggest that lilly steer clear of these idiots too.

If I was heart broken I would not want to appear on TV...bad as each other.

Probably, however he didn't say it because he cares! He's selfish to the core & it's all about what he wants. He doesn't give a stuff about how other people are feeling, look at his behaviour in the house. I would love if he was kicked out tonight, along with Lewis!

Please don't tell me you believe Rylans rather dubious words.theres no way she would ignore their calls if she was so hacked off at Bear.she could have just kept a dignified silence as Sam whatshisname did last year when Steph did the dirty on him.by agreeing to appear on BB and doing her dirty laundry in public shes made her fame hungry intentions very clear.either this or its a complete set up with Bear in on it....who knows?

Yet some on here are falling for the poor little fragile wallflower act".dont be so gullible Mcfly".