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"you humiliated me" Bear shrugs his shoulders
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Achtung
19-08-2016
Originally Posted by GibsonSG:
“I'm speechless, how did she come to that conclusion.”

It wouldn't surprise me if this is all an act for Bear to "show" his sensitive side. Times don't change. In a bygone era, Bear would have been a London street urchin ducking, diving and lying to make a living and being as convincing as they come, he's no different in the Big Brother house.
kitten59
19-08-2016
Originally Posted by froja:
“can you believe it Chloe is saying on twitter she was glad Lillie went into the house because now we all got to see the sensitive side of Bear that she saw and loves...

wow.”

Unreal. Then again, she isn't the brightest bulb in the box. The sad truth is, two very damaged people (Bear and Chloe) have found each other. I think that Bear, in a way, sabotaged his relationship with Lillie. The guy has no self-worth, deep down inside. He had real feelings for her, but knows he is not good enough. Believe it or not, as much as I disparage his behavior, there are times when I see a glimmer of hope (he does have some charisma and there are signs of humanity)... but sadly, they are dashed when he starts acting like an imbecile again. He would do well to seek some kind of therapy, but in the meantime, Lillie has escaped and potentially saved herself from further heartbreak.

Speaking of therapy, Aubrey was dead on. Bear has no idea who he really is. That girl has missed her calling. She'd make a GREAT shrink!
sorcha_healy27
19-08-2016
Originally Posted by all_night:
“Chloe and Bear are coming across like certain politicians do. There seems to be no self awareness, they are delusional and most of all, they are selfish.”

And they strike me as borderline sociopathic
Rhumbatugger
19-08-2016
Originally Posted by Zarla:
“Bear and Lillie were a marketable couple - same agent, good looking, personable and no associated sleaziness like porn. OK gave them a four page spread just weeks ago and more were in the works. The plan was for Bear to use his CBB fee to buy an engagement ring for Lillie.

Bear hooking up with Chloe was NOT scripted. She is a porn star and the glossy weeklies will steer well clear of her. She hasn't got nearly the appeal Lillie has and Bear's own appeal to the OK audience has plummeted too.

Despite all this, 90% of people posting on here think Bear copping off with Chloe was part of a script set up by Bear's agent in order to lead to a lucrative career for Bear.”

So, let me get this straight - Bear and Lillie are in the NEW show - and they get together by the end of it.

Then Bear goes into BB - and the IDEA is that Bear doesn't get a girlfriend in the show, but is STILL with Lillie and they get mag deals together on the back of BB and the subsequent showing of EOTB?


Yet it seemed to me that Bear was pretty desperate to cop off with ANY girl in CBB, he went for Marnie and was annoyed by that failure, and then Aubrey who told him where to go, before settling on Chloe who was a pushover.

Now I don't believe for a second that Bear 'cares' about Chloe.

And I don't believe that he cares about Lillie either.

So - NO REALITY in either, but the scuppering of some plan that might have furthered his career - so he effed UP, basically.

And he didn't really think about it UNTIL Lillie came back and it made him look really, really bad and THAT'S what's upset him.

No one will ever believe now that he had any feelings for her at all, on either show.

No wonder Lillie is upset. And I thought she could act a bit too. Better than the others anyway.

Still, she can go on the NEXT ex on the beach as well, and so will Bear - it's like La Ronde.

shaz20
19-08-2016
Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“So, let me get this straight - Bear and Lillie are in the NEW show - and they get together by the end of it.

Then Bear goes into BB - and the IDEA is that Bear doesn't get a girlfriend in the show, but is STILL with Lillie and they get mag deals together on the back of BB and the subsequent showing of EOTB?


Yet it seemed to me that Bear was pretty desperate to cop off with ANY girl in CBB, he went for Marnie and was annoyed by that failure, and then Aubrey who told him where to go, before settling on Chloe who was a pushover.

Now I don't believe for a second that Bear 'cares' about Chloe.

And I don't believe that he cares about Lillie either.

So - NO REALITY in either, but the scuppering of some plan that might have furthered his career - so he effed UP, basically.

And he didn't really think about it UNTIL Lillie came back and it made him look really, really bad and THAT'S what's upset him.

No one will ever believe now that he had any feelings for her at all, on either show.

No wonder Lillie is upset. And I thought she could act a bit too. Better than the others anyway.

Still, she can go on the NEXT ex on the beach as well, and so will Bear - it's like La Ronde.

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Or next CBB
Blanche.Dubois
19-08-2016
Originally Posted by kitten59:
“Unreal. Then again, she isn't the brightest bulb in the box. The sad truth is, two very damaged people (Bear and Chloe) have found each other. I think that Bear, in a way, sabotaged his relationship with Lillie. The guy has no self-worth, deep down inside. He had real feelings for her, but knows he is not good enough. Believe it or not, as much as I disparage his behavior, there are times when I see a glimmer of hope (he does have some charisma and there are signs of humanity)... but sadly, they are dashed when he starts acting like an imbecile again. He would do well to seek some kind of therapy, but in the meantime, Lillie has escaped and potentially saved herself from further heartbreak.

Speaking of therapy, Aubrey was dead on. Bear has no idea who he really is. That girl has missed her calling. She'd make a GREAT shrink!”

BIB She is highly intuitive, the comments she made about Big brother, which Judy James picked up on, were spot on.
Astute
19-08-2016
Originally Posted by Bunny-Girl:
“The only reason bear got upset was for himself. I'm glad lilly went in for those few minutes was worth it just to see bear squirm. It's ok for him to make a mockery of her on tv why can't she do it back to him on tv & call him out for his behaviour. Yes lilly & bear could have talked behind closed doors after but that would have been all fine & convient for bear [b]& made his life easy this way all he could do was Stand there & be ashamed of himself.”

I don't think he was ashamed of himself - he was just momentarily thrown off course and was strategizing as to what he could do next to recover from the possible public perception and how to best further his game .
Astute
19-08-2016
Originally Posted by Blanche.Dubois:
“BIB She is highly intuitive, the comments she made about Big brother, which Judy James picked up on, were spot on.”

Yes she is intuitive and articulate and I look forward to hearing her speak and ask questions which are normally quite loaded and pointed.

She is also quite funny - like with Frankie in live feed
But we don't get to see much of this because it's the Bear Show .
lulu g
19-08-2016
Originally Posted by Astute:
“I don't think he was ashamed of himself - he was just momentarily thrown off course and was strategizing as to what he could do next to recover from the possible public perception and how to best further his game .”

No, I don't think he was ashamed either. As you say, he was just trying to figure out how he could benefit from the situation.
julie_tredgold
19-08-2016
Originally Posted by PaleHorse:
“Roofless, cah, roofless! ”

julie_tredgold
19-08-2016
Originally Posted by lulu g:
“No, I don't think he was ashamed either. As you say, he was just trying to figure out how he could benefit from the situation.”


she was their to get a paycheque and try to boost her low profile z of a career, her ex was a geordie shore lad, she knows the script
julie_tredgold
19-08-2016
Originally Posted by Tendara:
“I wish she had slapped him in the face! If he is in the final I ain't watching it, so thank gawd I will never see him again!”

please watch the final
allie4
19-08-2016
Originally Posted by too_much_coffee:
“No, just her craving for publicity. She will do / say anything for money and she can't wait to get more dosh and fame / infamy. She is no doubt hoping for magazine deals although I can't see any magazines wanting anything to do with such a toxic couple”

Sadly they will if there's money in it! And there are enough credulous twits willing to buy their mags/articles etc.
B*witched
19-08-2016
Originally Posted by Achtung:
“It wouldn't surprise me if this is all an act for Bear to "show" his sensitive side. Times don't change. In a bygone era, Bear would have been a London street urchin ducking, diving and lying to make a living and being as convincing as they come, he's no different in the Big Brother house.”

I'm not surprised it was an act, two talentless nobodys trying to further their already dubious claim to 'fame' with a fake scripted confrontation scene. And they probably will get a few more mag deals and appearances out of it before they fade away for good.
Sierra-Oscar
19-08-2016
Rylan said on this morning that they'd been trying to get hold of her and she wasn't replying to them as they wanted to do it sooner (maybe even when Chloe was still in there - that'd be really awful!) but she just ignored them. Then apparently they saw some of her posts on the instagram/twitter pages and she was finally 'ready' to "confront" him.
sorcha_healy27
19-08-2016
Originally Posted by lulu g:
“No, I don't think he was ashamed either. As you say, he was just trying to figure out how he could benefit from the situation.”

Agreed. Bear has no idea what shame is. He probably thinks shame is a foreign bird he banged cos he's well fit innit.
Scots rool
19-08-2016
Originally Posted by michael_isgodl1:
“Get over it. Bear admitted in the diary room she is probably better off without him. End of.”

That makes it Ok then..........he's now doing the, 'I did this for the greater good, I put her 1st'. 'I didn't want her to suffer a few months down the line'! What a guy, he should be given a medal for his selfless actions.
And he also expects all the HM's to feel sorry for him!

Absolute bull! He's full of it, I don't get why people on here, & in the house, are falling for his rubbish! The only person he cares about is himself! Odious creature.
seether
19-08-2016
Originally Posted by sheils1:
“Is he suppose to discuss his business in front of all of them? Why didnt the others walk away and let them talk instead of being so nosey.”

This. Fake situation or not, they could have reserved judgment & not stood about gawking.

Originally Posted by kitten59:
“Unreal. Then again, she isn't the brightest bulb in the box. The sad truth is, two very damaged people (Bear and Chloe) have found each other. I think that Bear, in a way, sabotaged his relationship with Lillie. The guy has no self-worth, deep down inside. He had real feelings for her, but knows he is not good enough. Believe it or not, as much as I disparage his behavior, there are times when I see a glimmer of hope (he does have some charisma and there are signs of humanity)... but sadly, they are dashed when he starts acting like an imbecile again. He would do well to seek some kind of therapy, but in the meantime, Lillie has escaped and potentially saved herself from further heartbreak.

Speaking of therapy, Aubrey was dead on. Bear has no idea who he really is. That girl has missed her calling. She'd make a GREAT shrink!”

With all due respect, these judgments & many similar are all still supposition even if you are really confident of your ability to analyse some (at best) highly edited and (at worst) 'scripted' TV. I've never had a lot of truck with the psych evals anyway but that was back in the day when the HMs were as near to real as it was ever going to get on a TV game show & when they are aware of the cameras. Now I agree pretty much with the camp that think just watch it for what it is & forget buying into any sense of real selves in there.

Also: even if they were being far nearer 'themselves' I have issues with the idea of anyone knowing someone's motives better than they do. I may have no idea who I really am, but I'll defend to the death my right not to have anyone decide for me.
Example: Sam Fox's assertion that it was Bear's reason for nominating her that annoyed her, not the being nommed itself. She may have been lying through her teeth but I reserve the right for her to be believed, because it gets my goat that people do that 'this is what you feel really' thing. As with the jealousy issue that comes up so much - someone will say No I'm not - people will say You are really - & nothing you can do about it. So aggravating.
sorcha_healy27
19-08-2016
Originally Posted by Scots rool:
“That makes it Ok then..........he's now doing the, 'I did this for the greater good, I put her 1st'. 'I didn't want her to suffer a few months down the line'! What a guy, he should be given a medal for his selfless actions.
And he also expects all the HM's to feel sorry for him!

Absolute bull! He's full of it, I don't get why people on here, & in the house, are falling for his rubbish! The only person he cares about is himself! Odious creature. ”

Him saying she's better off without him is probably the only time he's ever been completely honest.

I suggest that lilly steer clear of these idiots too.
roseblue1
19-08-2016
If I was heart broken I would not want to appear on TV...bad as each other.
Scots rool
19-08-2016
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“Him saying she's better off without him is probably the only time he's ever been completely honest.

I suggest that lilly steer clear of these idiots too. ”

Probably, however he didn't say it because he cares! He's selfish to the core & it's all about what he wants. He doesn't give a stuff about how other people are feeling, look at his behaviour in the house. I would love if he was kicked out tonight, along with Lewis!
minxymoo
19-08-2016
Originally Posted by Sierra-Oscar:
“Rylan said on this morning that they'd been trying to get hold of her and she wasn't replying to them as they wanted to do it sooner (maybe even when Chloe was still in there - that'd be really awful!) but she just ignored them. Then apparently they saw some of her posts on the instagram/twitter pages and she was finally 'ready' to "confront" him.”

Please don't tell me you believe Rylans rather dubious words.theres no way she would ignore their calls if she was so hacked off at Bear.she could have just kept a dignified silence as Sam whatshisname did last year when Steph did the dirty on him.by agreeing to appear on BB and doing her dirty laundry in public shes made her fame hungry intentions very clear.either this or its a complete set up with Bear in on it....who knows?
minxymoo
19-08-2016
Originally Posted by julie_tredgold:
“she was their to get a paycheque and try to boost her low profile z of a career, her ex was a geordie shore lad, she knows the script”

Yet some on here are falling for the poor little fragile wallflower act".dont be so gullible Mcfly".
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