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Hollyoaks: The John Paul McQueen and James Nightingale Appreciation Thread
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KatrinaK
11-09-2016
Originally Posted by McGillicuddy:
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I'm so looking forward to Monday's episode, I hope it's very JP and James dominated.”

I think the whole episode will be very nightingale heavy. We'll have Mac/Neeta/Marnie, Alfie/Jade and also JP/James. The Donovan's I hope are just a small side story. I really hope we get some lengthy monologues from James about his past. I love that he is able to talk to John Paul about this. There is a real connection there.

I know James said to his mum that he and JP were not compatible but you can't help who you fall for. Though I think they are matched in a lot of ways, both intelligent men who are quite worldly. What seperates them is probably thier demeanour and overall outlook. Take Carter for example. Also a lawyer but very snotty and pretensious . Those are some traits that James possesses to a degree but they are not good together. There is no positive influence. Where as JP, he's very much easy going, family focused, kind-hearted and tries to be honest and noble. I think it's those sort of traits that James finds just as enticing as JP lust for James's inability to follow the rule book. It's like yin and yang.

I can just imagine if/ when they are a proper couple James visiting JP in school hours and getting up to something not so proper. 😂 Yeah i have an active imagination. I was a chryed fan after all. 😀
Francy
11-09-2016
Originally Posted by KatrinaK:
“I think the whole episode will be very nightingale heavy. We'll have Mac/Neeta/Marnie, Alfie/Jade and also JP/James. The Donovan's I hope are just a small side story. I really hope we get some lengthy monologues from James about his past. I love that he is able to talk to John Paul about this. There is a real connection there.

I know James said to his mum that he and JP were not compatible but you can't help who you fall for. Though I think they are matched in a lot of ways, both intelligent men who are quite worldly. What seperates them is probably thier demeanour and overall outlook. Take Carter for example. Also a lawyer but very snotty and pretensious . Those are some traits that James possesses to a degree but they are not good together. There is no positive influence. Where as JP, he's very much easy going, family focused, kind-hearted and tries to be honest and noble. I think it's those sort of traits that James finds just as enticing as JP lust for James's inability to follow the rule book. It's like yin and yang.

I can just imagine if/ when they are a proper couple James visiting JP in school hours and getting up to something not so proper. 😂 Yeah i have an active imagination. I was a chryed fan after all. 😀”

He is saying that to try and convince himself. Deep down he knows that he has fallen for JP and that he wants to give it a try, but he his held back by the walls he has built around himself (mostly thanks to Marnie's influence), so he is trying to fight his feelings. You can see it in his face while he is talking to his mom. Telling himself that they are not compatible, that it would have been a huge mistake and that it would have ended in certain disaster is his way of protecting himself (and maybe in his mind also JP) from the possibility of getting hurt by actually allowing their feelings to become a real thing.

However, he is not doing a great job of fighting these feelings...as soon as Marnie gave him the green light, he didn't hesitate to make a move to try and get JP back.

Aww, my poor, damaged boy! <3
KatrinaK
11-09-2016
Originally Posted by Francy:
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However, he is not doing a great job of fighting these feelings...as soon as Marnie gave him the green light, he didn't hesitate to make a move to try and get JP back.”

Yeah I noticed that too. It just shows how much influence his mum has on him. Her opinion is like gospel to him. I really don't like how she knows to pull his strings.

Despite trying to convince himself that he and John Paul were not meant to be, he didn't give it second thought to contact him as soon he got 'permission'.
ChelseaEllie
11-09-2016
Originally Posted by Francy:
“He is saying that to try and convince himself. Deep down he knows that he has fallen for JP and that he wants to give it a try, but he his held back by the walls he has built around himself (mostly thanks to Marnie's influence), so he is trying to fight his feelings. You can see it in his face while he is talking to his mom. Telling himself that they are not compatible, that it would have been a huge mistake and that it would have ended in certain disaster is his way of protecting himself (and maybe in his mind also JP) from the possibility of getting hurt by actually allowing their feelings to become a real thing.

However, he is not doing a great job of fighting these feelings...as soon as Marnie gave him the green light, he didn't hesitate to make a move to try and get JP back.

Aww, my poor, damaged boy! <3”

I agree totally, he doesnt want to hurt JP I think more than himself, and wants whats best for JP, which is no Scott and now not him either, he thinks hes toxic to everyone so must be alone for them
KatrinaK
11-09-2016
I'm on a late tomorrow so I won't be able to watch the episode until e4+ and that's only IF I beat the traffic. Grrrr!
Francy
11-09-2016
Originally Posted by KatrinaK:
“I'm on a late tomorrow so I won't be able to watch the episode until e4+ and that's only IF I beat the traffic. Grrrr!”

Always better than me. At least you don't have to hope that some kind soul beyond the Channel uploads it. With various channels uploading only incomplete parts (either leaving out JP's parts, or James parts when they are not related to the McNight storyline) or other channels uploaing 2-3 days later, you never know if/when/how you will be able to watch the newest episode.

Serves me right for following another nations' tv si obessively! Hahaha
KatrinaK
11-09-2016
Originally Posted by Francy:
“Always better than me. At least you don't have to hope that some kind soul beyond the Channel uploads it. With various channels uploading only incomplete parts (either leaving out JP's parts, or James parts when they are not related to the McNight storyline) or other channels uploaing 2-3 days later, you never know if/when/how you will be able to watch the newest episode.

Serves me right for following another nations' tv si obessively! Hahaha”

Aww bless ya. My situation next week sounds quite decent compared to yours. I don't know how you do it sometimes. I follow a lot of American shows and it drives me crazy waiting for my usual sites to stream it or provide a download link.
McGillicuddy
11-09-2016
Really makes you wonder how we managed before the internet, eh? I remember having to tape shows on VHS and if you missed it there was no second chance!
Francy
11-09-2016
Originally Posted by KatrinaK:
“Aww bless ya. My situation next week sounds quite decent compared to yours. I don't know how you do it sometimes. I follow a lot of American shows and it drives me crazy waiting for my usual sites to stream it or provide a download link.”

I follow a lot of American and British tv series too, but in that case I'm happy to wait until the following day to watch it. It's always been like that!! But with the British soaps, waiting for the episodes to pop up is painful!! I inevitably get spoiled because I can't resist reading the forum, and I can't really partecipate to the discussions properly cos I haven't seen it. And I get frustrated all the time!! Hahah


Originally Posted by McGillicuddy:
“Really makes you wonder how we managed before the internet, eh? I remember having to tape shows on VHS and if you missed it there was no second chance!”

It was another life... I almost don't remember it!!
KatrinaK
11-09-2016
Originally Posted by McGillicuddy:
“Really makes you wonder how we managed before the internet, eh? I remember having to tape shows on VHS and if you missed it there was no second chance!”

The 90's. 😄 I remember recording almost everything. We're so lucky to have sources that up load our boys now because 20 years ago would have been a different story.

I so hope we get some nice lengthy scenes between James and John Paul tomorrow.
McGillicuddy
11-09-2016
Yeah and on that note...ahsan c's youtube account has just been terminated!!
Francy
11-09-2016
If it wasn't for the internet, I would still be condemned to watching the awful, backwards and bigoted Italian tv, where the pope is on screen all the time, the quality of the shows is laughable, and gay people don't exist.

Luckily the internet saved me and let me have ways to indulge my love of LGBT storylines, and to access dozens of wonderful shows from all over the world. May the internet live forever.

On topic, I too hope James and JP have consisistent screen time tomorrow...but I won't hold my breath. The things I am interested in always seem to be relegate dto filler to most prominent storylines (which I usually couldn't care less about).
Francy
11-09-2016
Originally Posted by McGillicuddy:
“Yeah and on that note...ahsan c's youtube account has just been terminated!!”

What??? Nooooooooooooooooooo.... it was the only channel where it was possible to watch the whole McNight storyline!! Had I known I would have downloaded it!!

I'm crestfallen!
KatrinaK
11-09-2016
Originally Posted by Francy:
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On topic, I too hope James and JP have consisistent screen time tomorrow...but I won't hold my breath. The things I am interested in always seem to be relegate dto filler to most prominent storylines (which I usually couldn't care less about).”

I know what you mean. 😑 As for JP and James tomorrow, the spoilers do seem to be very tight lipped about them, which suggests something gets revealed. I think it's possible that we may be have all overthought it and it probably won't be anything major. It could be that his dad used to beat him as a child because he used to protect his
mum from one.
McGillicuddy
11-09-2016
Originally Posted by Francy:
“ What??? Nooooooooooooooooooo.... it was the only channel where it was possible to watch the whole McNight storyline!! Had I known I would have downloaded it!!

I'm crestfallen! ”

I'm absolutely gutted tbh, our taste in pairings was very similar. According to his twitter he'll be back by tomorrow, but all the videos he's uploaded until now are gone
Francy
11-09-2016
Originally Posted by McGillicuddy:
“I'm absolutely gutted tbh, our taste in pairings was very similar. According to his twitter he'll be back by tomorrow, but all the videos he's uploaded until now are gone ”

Where am I going to rewatch the James/JP scenes?? I'm in an obsessive phase, you can't take them away from me cold feet!! It's like with drugs LOL

And to think I was just praising the internet... bad, bad internet!!
McGillicuddy
11-09-2016
Originally Posted by Francy:
“ What??? Nooooooooooooooooooo.... it was the only channel where it was possible to watch the whole McNight storyline!! Had I known I would have downloaded it!!

I'm crestfallen! ”

How exactly do you download from youtube?
Francy
11-09-2016
Originally Posted by McGillicuddy:
“How exactly do you download from youtube?”

Using converters. There are several, I'm currently using this one:
http://www.onlinevideoconverter.com/

You copy the video url, then click on "convert link", and the converter will take some time to convert the video..when it's down, you click on "download".
KatrinaK
11-09-2016
It won't be long before someone re uploads the lot, maybe the same user. McNight are a popular couple. Someone is bound to get it up again.

It's a shame that's happened though. 🙁
McGillicuddy
11-09-2016
Originally Posted by Francy:
“Using converters. There are several, I'm currently using this one:
http://www.onlinevideoconverter.com/

You copy the video url, then click on "convert link", and the converter will take some time to convert the video..when it's down, you click on "download".”

And it's completely safe?
Francy
11-09-2016
Originally Posted by McGillicuddy:
“And it's completely safe?”

There's also this one:
http://convert2mp3.net/en/

I have never had issues on virus/malware front. If you mean legal, it should be!!
McGillicuddy
11-09-2016
Originally Posted by KatrinaK:
“It won't be long before someone re uploads the lot, maybe the same user. McNight are a popular couple. Someone is bound to get it up again.

It's a shame that's happened though. 🙁”

I'm a bit nervous though, because Ahsan C was the only person uploading McNight specifically. There's someone uploading John Paul and someone else uploading James, so we should be okay, but I really liked having a McNight specific channel.
LilMissBossy
11-09-2016
Originally Posted by Francy:
“If it wasn't for the internet, I would still be condemned to watching the awful, backwards and bigoted Italian tv, where the pope is on screen all the time, the quality of the shows is laughable, and gay people don't exist.

Luckily the internet saved me and let me have ways to indulge my love of LGBT storylines, and to access dozens of wonderful shows from all over the world. May the internet live forever.

On topic, I too hope James and JP have consisistent screen time tomorrow...but I won't hold my breath. The things I am interested in always seem to be relegate dto filler to most prominent storylines (which I usually couldn't care less about).”

Hi, sorry for the personal question but I am somewhat nosy Are you actually Italian or do you just live there. Because your English is absolutely perfect.
LilMissBossy
11-09-2016
Originally Posted by McGillicuddy:
“Yeah and on that note...ahsan c's youtube account has just been terminated!!”

Why would it be terminated? Do you think he had just had enough? I was really upset when Moira Barton stopped uploading the Robron clips but I guess it must get a bit much if they are in just about every episode.
McGillicuddy
11-09-2016
Originally Posted by LilMissBossy:
“Why would it be terminated? Do you think he had just had enough? I was really upset when Moira Barton stopped uploading the Robron clips but I guess it must get a bit much if they are in just about every episode.”

Copyright claims. No this wasn't his choice, he says he'll be back tomorrow. I have no idea whether he'll reupload what he had (which was a LOT).

I'm so gutted.
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