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Old 27-09-2016, 11:41
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I'm watching Billy/Todd, but they don't really do much for me. I like Todd, but I don't really like Billy... I guess that's probably my main problem with them. Kudos to Corrie and to the actors for really going all the way with them, though....ED and mate-y Robron should take notice.

Robron has also totally disappointed me since they got back together, both in the way they have been portrayed as a couple, and mostly because of the writing/narrative choices. I really hope this October stuff isn't just overhype as usual, and that it's actually good stuff that makes me interested in them again.

JP/James is really the only couple I'm really into at the moment... which is why the scarcity with which they are on screen sucks.
Robron act like mates and its really jarring tbh.

If James and John Paul scheme in secret a bit, that will hopefully draw this storyline out nice and slowburn. I'd hate for it to be a flash in the pan.
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Old 27-09-2016, 11:55
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Robron act like mates and its really jarring tbh.

If James and John Paul scheme in secret a bit, that will hopefully draw this storyline out nice and slowburn. I'd hate for it to be a flash in the pan.
Yeah, that's my main worry. That we are all here shipping and expecting a deep and long-running storyline and a long-term future for JP and James, while that is not the plan, and it will just be a short thing centered around the latest serious issue (domestic violence), with the relationship between JP and James accessory to the telling of James's story..and that it all will fizzle out in a short amount of time! I hope not!
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Old 27-09-2016, 12:33
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HO have been looking for a replacement for McDean and Stendan and McNight has potential and fan interest. I agree about Robron. It is so obvious the actors are mates and so are the characters.
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Old 27-09-2016, 17:36
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Finally some spoilers, even if they are vague. I have no doubt that his family will disbeleive James. Heartbreaking but believable.

I understand your concerns Francy. It does worry me sometimes that this abuse plot , as gripping as it is, will hinder John Paul and James's journey as a couple. I'd hate to see them become a side step to James's drama. We need to see that angst, that emotion, that heartbreak between JP and James.
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Old 27-09-2016, 18:05
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Ugh...I was already not so positive, McNight-wise, then I went to tumblr and I read hate on JP by frustrated shippers of that abomination that is James/Harry. Stay pressed, people!!

Sorry, by going to tumblr my mental age decreased to about 12, and the result is the above!!
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Old 27-09-2016, 18:38
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Ugh...I was already not so positive, McNight-wise, then I went to tumblr and I read hate on JP by frustrated shippers of that abomination that is James/Harry. Stay pressed, people!!

Sorry, by going to tumblr my mental age decreased to about 12, and the result is the above!!
Why anyone would ship James and Harry now is beyond me. Let's say for arguements sake they do work, clearly anyone can see that ship has sailed. Harry is all loved up with Ste, and James is clearly smitten with John Paul. He hasn't looked in Harry's direction for months. What ever they had was based on sex and even if they chose to see it anything more than that, there has been nothing on the writers part to suggest they even wish to persue it. I'd have given up ages ago, especially since what ever they had was nearly fleeting
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Old 27-09-2016, 19:52
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Are the waveguide spoilers out tomorrow? I hope they give us something.
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Old 27-09-2016, 20:28
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Ugh...I was already not so positive, McNight-wise, then I went to tumblr and I read hate on JP by frustrated shippers of that abomination that is James/Harry. Stay pressed, people!!

Sorry, by going to tumblr my mental age decreased to about 12, and the result is the above!!
Gross isn't it? There was no chemistry, it was all from James because Greg can act! The age difference is way too large and the dynamic of that ship was seedy, sleazy, toxic and unhealthy, I hope it is never mentioned again!

I think people who ship Jarry only do so because they hate either Ste or JP.

And yeah, they are frustrated because they know it's never going to happen
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Old 27-09-2016, 20:41
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Why anyone would ship James and Harry now is beyond me. Let's say for arguements sake they do work, clearly anyone can see that ship has sailed. Harry is all loved up with Ste, and James is clearly smitten with John Paul. He hasn't looked in Harry's direction for months. What ever they had was based on sex and even if they chose to see it anything more than that, there has been nothing on the writers part to suggest they even wish to persue it. I'd have given up ages ago, especially since what ever they had was nearly fleeting
Plus, what would they even have in common to make a relationship work? James is a lawyer in his mid 30s and Harry is an 18 year old schoolboy!! It's just...wrong *barf*
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Old 27-09-2016, 20:53
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Plus, what would they even have in common to make a relationship work? James is a lawyer in his mid 30s and Harry is an 18 year old schoolboy!! It's just...wrong *barf*
James is old enough to be Harry's dad. It's just so wrong. Some large age gaps work. For example Christian in eastenders was like 13 years older than Syed but thier chemistry was off the scale. Though like you said a naive young school boy with mature upper class lawyer. It's nonsensical and appears seedy. I agree with Francy. It was Gregory's acting that managed to get any kind of support for that ship.

People can say what they want about John Paul but at least he and James make sense. They're both adults, intellectuals and can actually hold a conversation together. That aside there is a genuine connection there and James drops his guard around JP - something he never had with Harry.
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Old 27-09-2016, 20:55
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I'm a recent James Nightingale enthusiast who has fallen badly into an obsession and looking for any means to quench it! So I found myself looking for Gregory Finnegan videos on youtube....thought I'd share if anyone was interested!

Eastenders- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfkOprdEdus he plays a gorgeous doctor. (5.50sec in)

Casualty- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvSvKtaDZas he plays a gorgeous patient (3.07sec in)

Doctors- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaBGi42Oxeo he plays a gorgeous artist, but I don't think James would approve...as James likes cats. (I'm guessing)

enjoy!
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Old 27-09-2016, 21:03
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I'm a recent James Nightingale enthusiast who has fallen badly into an obsession and looking for any means to quench it! So I found myself looking for Gregory Finnegan videos on youtube....thought I'd share if anyone was interested!

Eastenders- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfkOprdEdus he plays a gorgeous doctor. (5.50sec in)

Casualty- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvSvKtaDZas he plays a gorgeous patient (3.07sec in)

Doctors- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaBGi42Oxeo he plays a gorgeous artist, but I don't think James would approve...as James likes cats. (I'm guessing)

enjoy!
Key word: gorgeous!!

Thanks for the links!!
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Old 27-09-2016, 21:04
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I'm a recent James Nightingale enthusiast who has fallen badly into an obsession and looking for any means to quench it! So I found myself looking for Gregory Finnegan videos on youtube....thought I'd share if anyone was interested!

Eastenders- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfkOprdEdus he plays a gorgeous doctor. (5.50sec in)

Casualty- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvSvKtaDZas he plays a gorgeous patient (3.07sec in)

Doctors- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaBGi42Oxeo he plays a gorgeous artist, but I don't think James would approve...as James likes cats. (I'm guessing)

enjoy!
Awesome, thanks!
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Old 27-09-2016, 21:08
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James is old enough to be Harry's dad. It's just so wrong. Some large age gaps work. For example Christian in eastenders was like 13 years older than Syed but thier chemistry was off the scale. Though like you said a naive young school boy with mature upper class lawyer. It's nonsensical and appears seedy. I agree with Francy. It was Gregory's acting that managed to get any kind of support for that ship.

People can say what they want about John Paul but at least he and James make sense. They're both adults, intellectuals and can actually hold a conversation together. That aside there is a genuine connection there and James drops his guard around JP - something he never had with Harry.
I had no idea Christian and Syed's age gap was that large. Huh.
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Old 27-09-2016, 21:09
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I'm a recent James Nightingale enthusiast who has fallen badly into an obsession and looking for any means to quench it! So I found myself looking for Gregory Finnegan videos on youtube....thought I'd share if anyone was interested!

Eastenders- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfkOprdEdus he plays a gorgeous doctor. (5.50sec in)

Casualty- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvSvKtaDZas he plays a gorgeous patient (3.07sec in)

Doctors- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaBGi42Oxeo he plays a gorgeous artist, but I don't think James would approve...as James likes cats. (I'm guessing)

enjoy!
Thank you so much!!!! It's nice to see Gregory in other things. Looks loke HO has been his breakthrough role then. About time his talents were recognised! I cant believe he shared a scene with Syed from EE (one half of my fav couple at the time).

I must admit, I'm slightly obsessed with James. 😳 Best HO character in years.
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Old 27-09-2016, 21:12
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I had no idea Christian and Syed's age gap was that large. Huh.
Yeah. When Syed came into the show he was 24 and not long after, Christian was celebrating his 36th birthday. That makes it 12 years not 13. 🙂
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Old 27-09-2016, 21:15
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Watching those YT links... I have to admit... as much as I love James' dapper style, boy, Gregory looks good all scruffy.

I propose a petition for scruffy, shabby James to make an appearance. Maybe he can go through a rough patch when Mac's abuse comes out, and his family doesn't believe him. He can barricate himself in his house for a few days and get drunk, and JP will have to help put him back together.
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Old 27-09-2016, 21:17
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Watching those YT links... I have to admit... as much as I love James' dapper style, boy, Gregory look good all scruffy.

I propose a petition for scruffy, shabby James to make an appearance. Maybe he can go through a rough patch when Mac's abuse comes out, and his family doesn't believe him. He can barricate himself in his house for a few days and get drunk, and JP will have to help put him back together.
Agree 100%. It's James' character to be very well groomed and turned out, but yeah - he's going through a tough time. Some scruffy James and JP would be A+
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Old 27-09-2016, 21:23
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I'd like to see James go through a real downward spiral when none of his family believe him. Don't get me wrong, I won't enjoy seeing him that way but it would be interesting to see a man who is together for the most part and presents himself a certain way just fall apart. I can imagine James in a t-shirt with stubble.
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Old 27-09-2016, 21:25
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I'd like to see James go through a real downward spiral when none of his family believe him. Don't get me wrong, I won't enjoy seeing him that way but it would be interesting to see a man who is together for the most part and presents himself a certain way just fall apart. I can imagine James in a t-shirt with stubble.
I would enjoy seeing him that way What's the saying, 'kill your darlings'? As long as he had at least JP to support him and he came out stronger on the other side, plus it would bring them closer together. Another scene with James in that black wifebeater would be tops.
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Old 27-09-2016, 21:36
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I would enjoy seeing him that way What's the saying, 'kill your darlings'? As long as he had at least JP to support him and he came out stronger on the other side, plus it would bring them closer together. Another scene with James in that black wifebeater would be tops.
Yeah i can imagine JP by his side the whole way. Something tells me James is going to hit that self destruct button and push John Paul away again.
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Old 27-09-2016, 21:38
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Yeah i can imagine JP by his side the whole way. Something tells me James is going to hit that self destruct button and push John Paul away again.
Oh aye, I don't doubt it for a second. JP won't let him get away with it though (fingers crossed)
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Old 27-09-2016, 21:51
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Thank you so much!!!! It's nice to see Gregory in other things. Looks loke HO has been his breakthrough role then. About time his talents were recognised! I cant believe he shared a scene with Syed from EE (one half of my fav couple at the time).

I must admit, I'm slightly obsessed with James. 😳 Best HO character in years.

haha, no problem! I know, I couldn't believe he shared a scene with Syed, I remember watching that storyline in Eastenders and being hooked! Now I am hooked on James...I wish he would come back!! I agree, best in years,
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Old 27-09-2016, 21:54
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Watching those YT links... I have to admit... as much as I love James' dapper style, boy, Gregory looks good all scruffy.

I propose a petition for scruffy, shabby James to make an appearance. Maybe he can go through a rough patch when Mac's abuse comes out, and his family doesn't believe him. He can barricate himself in his house for a few days and get drunk, and JP will have to help put him back together.

Yes, definitely need some scruffy James! I just hope Hollyoaks does justice to this storyline and doesn't cut it short, make it fantastical or somehow take away from James and John Paul as a couple. I just think Hollyoaks has found something really strong in these characters, they need to utilise it!!
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Old 27-09-2016, 21:56
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Welcome to the thread Anna. You'll feel right at home here with the James lovin. There are quite a few on his on this thread. I hope your posting encourages other lurkers to come, register and join in on the discussions. James is the kind of compelling character that you can really dwelve into. Also he and JP have enough chemistry and potential to keep us talking.
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