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Hollyoaks: The John Paul McQueen and James Nightingale Appreciation Thread
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KatrinaK
07-10-2016
Originally Posted by margarite6666:
“I agree with you. Kieron wants that best actor accolade and that is why he wants all this hysterical storylines. The character would have been dead by now. Stendan was great because they bounced off each other but Parry adds nothing at all. Focusing on Kieron just puts a spotlight on his weaknesses as an actor. It just is always OTT.”

I think that's what's happening here. Emmet was always the superior actor but because their partnership worked so well, Ste as a character was watchable, likable even. They had a good rapport. Ste and Harry do nothing for each other. I actually think Ste is bringing Harry down. Parry is not the best actor on the show but I find his character a lot better when he is with his peers doing normal teenage stuff. I just find it unbelievable that a 18 year old would want the burden of a man in his late 20's, battling a drug addiction, with two small children and live with the risk of catching HIV. It just doesn't ring true to me at all. In fact the way the show goes on, it seems like they want to forget that Ste has HIV altogether.

I do think you're right about the actor wanting all the big storylines so he can show he is the best actor but all it shows is how OTT he is as a actor and exhausted he is as a character. What Kirkwood should have done is rested Ste for at least a year, show him being a dad, getting a secure job and rebuilding his life without ever bringing Harry into it. That would have allowed the character to grow and develope so when he did actually have that big issue led story, viewers would actually care. The character is so tired and exhausted now that what ever happens to him, big or small, I'm not bothered and I don't care if he dies through it either.
KatrinaK
07-10-2016
Originally Posted by McGillicuddy:
“Ste with James is my worst nightmare.”

Mine too. Like seriously. I just don't trust Kirkwood. They have paired every gay man with Ste, it's just ridiculous.

I do think James and JP are in it for the long haul but if JP were to ever leave, Kirkwood would not be able to help himself.
shortiefluff
07-10-2016
No matter how bad Ry-Ry is, i'll never root for Ste over Amy. I wouldnt trust Ste to look after a twig tbh. Unsympathetic character and even if Ryan's a bad guy after all, Leah/Lucas should be with them not their useless, scummy, druggy, waste of space dad and his latest twinkie, who's only 9 years older than Leah.
McGillicuddy
07-10-2016
Guess who has learned to make gifsets...?!

Also a scene kinda loses its meaning when you've watched it through so many times to gif it, holy shit!
LilMissBossy
08-10-2016
So....anybody else catch a hint of a 'spark' between Ste and Ry-Ry in last night's episode? Or was it just my overactive imagination?
McGillicuddy
08-10-2016
Originally Posted by LilMissBossy:
“So....anybody else catch a hint of a 'spark' between Ste and Ry-Ry in last night's episode? Or was it just my overactive imagination?”

I reckon they'll probably go there eventually, though I hope they don't.

*puts Ryan/Joel shipper hat on*
Francy
08-10-2016
Originally Posted by McGillicuddy:
“Guess who has learned to make gifsets...?!

Also a scene kinda loses its meaning when you've watched it through so many times to gif it, holy shit!”

That was quick!! Looking forward to seeing them!! Are you going to post them on tumblr??
McGillicuddy
08-10-2016
Originally Posted by Francy:
“That was quick!! Looking forward to seeing them!! Are you going to post them on tumblr??”

Yep once I make up the full set. It's quite easy actually!
LilMissBossy
08-10-2016
Originally Posted by McGillicuddy:
“I reckon they'll probably go there eventually, though I hope they don't.

*puts Ryan/Joel shipper hat on*”

I'd definitely rather that than Ste and James!

I'd rather see Ste with literally anyone else!
McGillicuddy
08-10-2016
Originally Posted by LilMissBossy:
“I'd definitely rather that than Ste and James!

I'd rather see Ste with literally anyone else!”

NOTP, NOTP, NOTP!!
Francy
09-10-2016
I'm not worried about that at all... James wouldn't touch Ste with a barge pole. He has no respect for him ar all.

Besides, Starry seems to not be going anywhere anytime soon (sigh) and if they had to pair Ste up with someone else, I reckon it would be Ryan.
McGillicuddy
09-10-2016
Originally Posted by Francy:
“I'm not worried about that at all... James wouldn't touch Ste with a barge pole. He has no respect for him ar all.

Besides, Starry seems to not be going anywhere anytime soon (sigh) and if they had to pair Ste up with someone else, I reckon it would be Ryan.”

Can we take a moment to express our disbelief that scrawny Ste would be able to beat up beefy cop Ryan? I think that might be the most unrealistic thing the show has done!
Francy
10-10-2016
This black hole is(understandibly) killing the thread!! I guess there are only so many times we can complain about the drought, and badmouth Ste LOL

HP is so stupid, James and McNight were building a nice fandom, it's so silly to kill the momentum by having a huge blackhole just after starting the storylone, instead of capitalizing on the audience interest. I wonde rhow anyone can think this kind of drastic block storytelling is a good idea.
KatrinaK
10-10-2016
Originally Posted by Francy:
“HP is so stupid, James and McNight were building a nice fandom, it's so silly to kill the momentum by having a huge blackhole just after starting the storylone, instead of capitalizing on the audience interest. I wonde rhow anyone can think this kind of drastic block storytelling is a good idea.”

It really was the worst time to have a black hole wasn't it? The story had just started... and it got of to a dam good start too. And then kaput. Nothing. It's beyond frustrating because the viewers are literately left hanging. What I've noticed is that James's story hasn't just sparked interest from his fans but also the casual viewer too. I've lost count of the amount of times I've gone in the main thread and people have asked where James is and what's happened to his story. The viewers do care. It's just ridiculous that the story has gone on a complete standstill when it's barely in its infancy.
McGillicuddy
10-10-2016
Originally Posted by KatrinaK:
“It really was the worst time to have a black hole wasn't it? The story had just started... and it got of to a dam good start too. And then kaput. Nothing. It's beyond frustrating because the viewers are literately left hanging. What I've noticed is that James's story hasn't just sparked interest from his fans but also the casual viewer too. I've lost count of the amount of times I've gone in the main thread and people have asked where James is and what's happened to his story. The viewers do care. It's just ridiculous that the story has gone on a complete standstill when it's barely in its infancy.”

Good news I suppose is according to spoilers James is back on Friday. It's probably a minor appearance and it's nothing connected to McNight or his abuse storyline, but it's something.
margarite6666
10-10-2016
Originally Posted by McGillicuddy:
“Good news I suppose is according to spoilers James is back on Friday. It's probably a minor appearance and it's nothing connected to McNight or his abuse storyline, but it's something.”

It is also Mercedes birthday bash when she flirts with Mac. I find it hard to believe JP won't be there. It would also seem strange if one or other was in it for 1 episode. Hopefully the Mercedes/Joanne war next week may mean we will see them.
Francy
11-10-2016
Finally the light at the end of the (very long) tunnel!

Spoilers I found on tumblr:

James/JP Spoilers

Spoiler
Mon 24 Oct: Mac is furious when he discovers Neeta’s filed for divorce, with James’s help.

Tues 25 Oct: John Paul tries to encourage James to patch things up with his family.

Wed 26 Oct: James is angry at John Paul for meddling; is it game over for the couple?

Thurs 27 Oct: John Paul encourages James to get some counselling; can they patch things up?


??? Neeta and Mac never got married...

These spoilers as a whole are a bit weird!
McGillicuddy
11-10-2016
Originally Posted by Francy:
“Finally the light at the end of the (very long) tunnel!

Spoilers I found on tumblr:

James/JP Spoilers

Spoiler
Mon 24 Oct: Mac is furious when he discovers Neeta’s filed for divorce, with James’s help.

Tues 25 Oct: John Paul tries to encourage James to patch things up with his family.

Wed 26 Oct: James is angry at John Paul for meddling; is it game over for the couple?

Thurs 27 Oct: John Paul encourages James to get some counselling; can they patch things up?


??? Neeta and Mac never got married...

These spoilers as a whole are a bit weird!”

THANK GOD!

Spoiler
"Couple" tho? Hmm...I didn't think they were actually together

The divorce thing is super weird, unless it's a mistake. Maybe they'd already signed a Marriage Certificate and the ceremony was a formality? That's all I got.

All I care about is more McNight tbh


Where on tumblr did you find these?
Francy
11-10-2016
Originally Posted by McGillicuddy:
“No, but I actually love these!!!

Spoiler
"Couple" tho? Hmm...I didn't think they were actually together

The divorce thing is super weird, unless it's a mistake. Maybe they'd already signed a Marriage Certificate and the ceremony was a formality? That's all I got.

All I care about is more McNight tbh


Where on tumblr did you find these?”

http://yeonhii.tumblr.com/post/15166...s-furious-when

They have posted spoilers before... I don't know how accurate these are, but from the format they seem to be from sites like waveguide or similar. We will see what pops up in the next few days!
McGillicuddy
11-10-2016
Originally Posted by Francy:
“http://yeonhii.tumblr.com/post/15166...s-furious-when

They have posted spoilers before... I don't know how accurate these are, but from the format they seem to be from sites like waveguide or similar. We will see what pops up in the next few days!”

Hehe I was all set to follow that blog and then I saw they're predominantly starry. Dodged a bullet there!
Francy
11-10-2016
Originally Posted by McGillicuddy:
“Hehe I was all set to follow that blog and then I saw they're predominantly starry. Dodged a bullet there!”

They are all starry, on tumblr. I guess because that site is predominantly used by teenagers.

(wait, didn't you like Starry?? Or have you finally come back to your senses? )

Anyway, I don't like those spoilers, it sounds like bullshit to me!
McGillicuddy
11-10-2016
Originally Posted by Francy:
“They are all starry, on tumblr. I guess because that site is predominantly used by teenagers.

(wait, didn't you like Starry?? Or have you finally come back to your senses? )

Anyway, I don't like those spoilers, it sounds like bullshit to me!”

I don't mind starry, I just don't want it on my dashboard thank you kindly!

Why don't you like them? I think they sound like lots of McNight relationship development is coming.
McGillicuddy
11-10-2016
Spoiler
I really want clarification on this 'couple' business. Are James and John Paul together now? Or do they mean couple as in 'pair'?
Francy
11-10-2016
Originally Posted by McGillicuddy:
“I don't mind starry, I just don't want it on my dashboard thank you kindly!

Why don't you like them? I think they sound like lots of McNight relationship development is coming.”

Spoiler
I don't like them because I don't like the idea of them being a couple already..when would have they become a couple?? After James dumped a blind JP telling him about the bet (something they haven't brought up yet.... they need to discuss all this before trying to take things further)? Or when JP was supporting James with the abuse stuff (not exactly th time to be thinking about romance)? Off screen?

Also, going to couple counselling at this stage is ridiculous LOL James should go to counselling for himself...
McGillicuddy
11-10-2016
Originally Posted by Francy:
“
Spoiler
I don't like them because I don't like the idea of them being a couple already..when would have they become a couple?? After James dumped a blind JP telling him about the bet (something they haven't brought up yet.... they need to discuss all this before trying to take things further)? Or when JP was supporting James with the abuse stuff (not exactly th time to be thinking about romance)? Off screen?

Also, going to couple counselling at this stage is ridiculous LOL James should go to counselling for himself...
”

Spoiler
I took the counselling remark to mean John Paul was suggesting James should go to counselling for himself, never even occurred to me it meant couples counselling


I guess we'll find out more nearer the time.
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