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Old 14-11-2016, 19:35
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We got a nice JP and James kiss right at the end. It was very coupley and sweet. While I'm not a fan of how thier relationship has been developed, I do find JP and James very natural together.
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Old 14-11-2016, 19:43
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Nice scene. JP and Myra at James flat. He is on the phone while Myra makes huge sandwich. James has paid off 4 of the witnesses and needs Myra to nick the phone of the last one. Myra and witness in bar; Myra Nick's phone and gives it to James. Nice scene with JP and James. James looking at the phone online and Cassandra has been a naughty girl apparently. James says it is good to know people's secrets. I think he says he knows what JP wants for his birthday and JP says you better not have. James in bar with Myra. Apparently Cassie is as drink driver. James gets her to sign a statement that she coerced the others. Myra Chuck's Diego out. We see Tabby in US and she had an English accent. JP welcomes James back and they have 2 really good kisses as JP puts his arms around James and they embrace.
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Old 14-11-2016, 19:55
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Nice scene. JP and Myra at James flat. He is on the phone while Myra makes huge sandwich. James has paid off 4 of the witnesses and needs Myra to nick the phone of the last one. Myra and witness in bar; Myra Nick's phone and gives it to James. Nice scene with JP and James. James looking at the phone online and Cassandra has been a naughty girl apparently. James says it is good to know people's secrets. I think he says he knows what JP wants for his birthday and JP says you better not have. James in bar with Myra. Apparently Cassie is as drink driver. James gets her to sign a statement that she coerced the others. Myra Chuck's Diego out. We see Tabby in US and she had an English accent. JP welcomes James back and they have 2 really good kisses as JP puts his arms around James and they embrace.
E4+1 here I come!
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Old 14-11-2016, 19:59
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*waits, as usual*
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Old 14-11-2016, 19:59
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What I liked about tonight's episode was that it showed how different James and JP are and actually made it interesting and sweet, rather than a drawback. While James was talking about his underhand tactics in getting Diego out, you could tell by John Paul's expression and questioning, that he did not approve of James's methods. It demonstrated again, how straight laced JP is and his moral compass, as opposed to James who is quite happy to get his hands dirty to get a result. Yet none of that was detrimental to them. It was actually sweet because you could see that they are so different in this respect but still care for each other, regardless. I also liked how JP just put his arms around James neck in the end, like the most natural thing in the world.
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Old 14-11-2016, 20:01
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*waits, as usual*
hahaha
Bless ya. I do feel for you having to wait so long after everyone's watched it.

On another note, the winter trailer was lame, the weakest one this year.
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Old 14-11-2016, 20:28
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Aahhh that was a bang on ending!
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Old 14-11-2016, 20:30
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I also liked how JP just put his arms around James neck in the end, like the most natural thing in the world.
That was so brilliant!
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Old 14-11-2016, 21:27
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No one is commenting, the episode thread is dead..is the episode so dreadful?? What's happening?
I was asleep my knee was hurting, I lay down and went to sleep lol
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Old 14-11-2016, 23:07
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Sigh... I'll have to wait for the lunch break tomorrow to (hopefully) see tonight's episode. So annoying... Night everyone!
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Old 15-11-2016, 00:02
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Sigh... I'll have to wait for the lunch break tomorrow to (hopefully) see tonight's episode. So annoying... Night everyone!
Justmcqueening has it up!
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Old 15-11-2016, 10:00
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I'm not too happy about this spoiler:

'Elsewhere, Harry wants James to help with Ste’s custody battle and so tells Tabby about his and James’ history.'

I love the fact that Tabby is coming into the story and how it will cause trouble for Mac and possibly reveal some secrets, but do they have to drag up James's history with Harry?
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Old 15-11-2016, 11:49
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Justmcqueening has it up!
Eh, I was already in the land of Morpheus!! I watched the scenes just now. I obviously haven't seen the Linda Gray scenes, since justmcqueening posts strictly the scenes that involve JP (which makes for a very incomplete viewing, at times...but hey, beggars can't be choosers and all that).

Just like Katrina, I am disappointed by the way they have developed James/JP, there's a lot of wasted dramatic potential in there. However, I still love them because they just work together. They fit, as characters and as actors, and that's the saving grace. I hope they find more ways to explore them and create angst/conflict in the future, ways that don't include the usual cheating.

Also, I have a doubt.. James said that he paid the witness a considerable amount of money in exchange for them withdrawing their statements... where did that money come from? The McQueens and Diego are obviously not paying him, is he using his own money?? I know he's quote well off, but it still seems weird....
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Old 15-11-2016, 11:50
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Reading Soaplife spoliers for 28th week and James and JPs relationship steps up but will Matthew get in thr way. I think it could be James asking JP to move in but forgets Matthew goes with and he isn't very paternal is he? It should be super angsty anyway whatever is and its good that JP remembers he has a kid.
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Old 15-11-2016, 12:32
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Reading Soaplife spoliers for 28th week and James and JPs relationship steps up but will Matthew get in thr way. I think it could be James asking JP to move in but forgets Matthew goes with and he isn't very paternal is he? It should be super angsty anyway whatever is and its good that JP remembers he has a kid.
James said he likes kids. When he brought Matthew to the hospital to cheer JP up, JP assumed James wasn't very paternal and made a comment, to which James objected.

I don't think he isn't paternal as per se, I think he never thought about the possibility of having kids because of how he closed himself off from relationships and love in general. With JP he may be willing to change that.

I'm worried that they are rushing things too far, though. To think we wanted a slow burn storyline..lol.
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Old 15-11-2016, 15:47
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I'm not too happy about this spoiler:

'Elsewhere, Harry wants James to help with Ste’s custody battle and so tells Tabby about his and James’ history.'

I love the fact that Tabby is coming into the story and how it will cause trouble for Mac and possibly reveal some secrets, but do they have to drag up James's history with Harry?
UUUGGGGGGHHHHHHH. So gross, so gross.

Curious about them possibly moving in, though I definitely share concerns that this is quick. Hollyoaks can never resist relationship drama, so there's always trouble on the horizon.
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Old 15-11-2016, 17:12
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I was reading the Ste spoilers (ugh... such a stupid storyline) and there's goingto be so much of him and his storyline on screen... so many episodes!! Not like James and JP who appear for 3 episodes, then go into a black hole, then reapper for 3 episodes again, only to disappear once again. That's not right!!

Anyway, I'm not really looking forward to seeing James dragged into the Starry/Amy ridiculous custody battle.... who is even paying him?? Tony? Leela?? If he keeps accepting no-profit cases, he's going to end up living with JP in Diego's camper.
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Old 15-11-2016, 18:40
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James said he likes kids. When he brought Matthew to the hospital to cheer JP up, JP assumed James wasn't very paternal and made a comment, to which James objected.

I don't think he isn't paternal as per se, I think he never thought about the possibility of having kids because of how he closed himself off from relationships and love in general. With JP he may be willing to change that.

I'm worried that they are rushing things too far, though. To think we wanted a slow burn storyline..lol.
This is where the therapy thing comes in. JP brought up Matthew and that he needs to be sure of James. Would be odd if Matthew wasn't in his thoughts. Plus Harry telling Tabby about James. Does JP know about that? It was really sleazy and Harry is connected to Ste. Strange how JP and Ste never interact. As much as I dislike Ste now there are many connections between these couples.
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Old 15-11-2016, 18:50
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True, it has always bugged me how JP and Ste practically never had scenes together after they broke up.

Also, it's time for the divorce topic to be brought up. JP and Ste need to officially part ways. Now JP even has a lawyer boyfriend to facilitate the process.

Are JP and/or James supposed to appear tonight??
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Old 15-11-2016, 19:27
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The first half was awful. I have never seen actors who are so self conscious and pout. Second part is so maudlin. Myra and Sienna. Tie up with Joel the priest, Warrens son and Goldie trying to get arrested so Myra will help her. More maudlin Cindy using Alfie to find Tom. Nothing for us at all.
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Old 15-11-2016, 20:29
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Urgh ste the joys..Didn't use to mind him then they started going round in circles with his character and became annoying and now they've paired him off with Harry even worse

Thought the winter trailer would have more but guess makes sense seeing the main Christmas/new year whatever is focused on those stories..Hopefully once they're out the way things move but not super fast!
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Old 15-11-2016, 21:27
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Do we know when the guys will be back on screen?? I can't keep track of the spoilers...
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Old 15-11-2016, 21:31
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From the spoilers, it does look like John Paul and James move in together. That's way too fast but I've given up on them having a angsty 'will they won't they'. I'm guessing Mathew would be a big adjustment for James. Paternal or not, living and helping raise someone elses kid is not easy, especially for someone like James who is very much used to his own space and comforts.

Ugh about Jarry being bought up again. I mean is that discussion even necessary? I never want to hear about that again.

I have to agree about Ste and JP. While, I'm happy to see them never share a story again, I find it ridiculous that they havnt shared a scene together since their separation. I mean they were married fgs! When you think of the stories they had together, JP's rape and Ste's HIV, its ridiculous that they are strangers to each other now. However this is is HO for you. Once they put a story line to bed, their continuity is terrible. Characters only exist in their own bubble and this is the shows biggest downfall.
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Old 15-11-2016, 21:33
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Thought the winter trailer would have more but guess makes sense seeing the main Christmas/new year whatever is focused on those stories..Hopefully once they're out the way things move but not super fast!
I can't see James's abuse story line picking up until next year at least. I do think 2017 will be a big year for the character. I really do believe that, even if the pacing will be crap, just like the rest of it.
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Old 15-11-2016, 21:34
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Do we know when the guys will be back on screen?? I can't keep track of the spoilers...
James is definitely back next week. I'm unsure exactly when JP appears.
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