he falls in love with tony

James wouldn't give a single solitary sh*t about setting Joanne up with Joe, he just wouldn't. They're showing me these scenes and they don't ring even slightly true!

Are we already annoyed with this storyline??? Hahaha

I don't trust these writers... not even one bit!

Part of me hopes hes doing it as revenge for the job thing

but I fear hes doing it to prove to himself that he can be cruel if he wants

It makes sense to me and I think that's because I look at this as James doing this for himself more than he is doing it for Joanne.

He's basically reverting to type. He tried being the good guy, only for his mum to remind him that it wasn't in his nature and that it is being cunning and calculating that has got him far in life. Him helping out Joanne, a friend, is just a bonus. This little task enables him to reinstatie his identity as the ruthless man he's been all his life.

I get the impression James is conflicted internally and his conscience and compassion is fighting to the surface but he is doing everything he can to keep that at bay.

That would be great if I believed they'd put that much thought into it, but I really don't. I think they're treading water with James atm until John Paul gets his sight back.

I really really hope you're right!

I really wanted him to talk to Joanne about the bet, and her to ask if he broke them up why is he not with JP

I'm pleased that they are still keeping James's ruthlessness nature alive. Having feelings for John Paul would not completely change his especially since he's been brain washed his whole life. Plus it is this that makes him truely interesting to watch. James is flawed, cold and manipulatives at times, but he loves his family and at the very core he is not evil or a sociopath.

It makes sense, but I wouldn't want to give the writers too much credit.

However, if this is what they intend to show, I hope they make his motivations clear in the near future, and that we see James' inner conflict. Greg is a good enough actor to do it justice.


Which would suck. I don't know how JP and the viewers will ever be able to believe in James' feelings for JP if James doesn't do anything to fix his mess before JP gets his sight back.

it would be nice to see some scenes with his family (Not Morticia) just joking with Nathan and Ellie and caring for Alfie

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It's just the impression I get and I do think it's was realistic for James to do this so in terms of development I'm glad we're not seeing mr good guy crying into his pillow over John Paul.

There is plenty of time to see his feelings for JP come through.

That said, this is bound to bite him in the ass when JP finds out his involvement. I can imagine Myra wanting to give him another slap. 😂

Yeah, it's disappointing that there hasn't been anu follow-up conversation, even a throwaway line!!

Oh I know what you mean. I've been wanting these scenes for ages but we've had nothing. With Ellie's up and coming story, this is likely as a brother and maybe even her lawyer.

I'd definitely like something between him and Nathan though because I get the impression there is a lot of hidden resentment from James's side.

He and Nathan always have really good scenes when they are allowed to be together, sweet teasing, brotherly

its just odd long lost big brother appears and they dont interact

it would make sense that hes avoiding ellie cos he knows about morticia and hypnotoad

or her questioning why break them up then not be with JP

I think we will definitely see James turmoil at some point concerning John Paul. I don't think any of us have to worry about that. I know HO don't always get it right but I do think they are developing James at the correct pace at the moment.

However who knows what the future holds. My fear is one day they will go full on panto villian with James loosing what ever made him so 3D to watch in the first place. I mean look what happened to Lindsey and Cameron.....?

They need to strike that balance with James. There will always be shades of grey in his character and even when he gets with JP I want and expect him to get his hands dirty now again. I just hope they don't make him so sort of villian without remorse or compassion.

I think JP will like the shades of grey, he has that with his family

and in himself, hes not that goody two shoes, hes just better than his family

I worry if James ends up nicer JP wont be as keen, he seems really attracted to that dark controlling side

Nah I can't see that happening. I agree with you that John Paul is attracted to the darker dominating type but making James more human won't eradicate those traits. James will soften, showing his caring and compassionate side sure thing but he'll always be that lawyer who has his own methods of making money. James also has a certain sophistication about him too. He's charismatic, witty and is quite enticing. He's not going to turn into a mr goody two shoes saint because that's not just him.

This is hollyoaks Lyndsey became a killer from nowhere

True.

I really shouldn't put too much faith in the show or more so Kirkwood. The man has a penchant for character u turns.

I agree with you. As they came down the stairs he was saying that James was playing a sadistic game and he said he liked playing people nd JP wanted nothing to do with it. James Sutton has said JP can't help falling for attractive men. This is what would make them an interesting couple; that James retains that edgy side. It is ingrained in him so he wouldn't suddenly become a saint. It was so obvious that Scott's ability to make him laugh would not be enough and he was just kidding himself.

thats an understatement

why isnt nancy visiting JP?

He often looked appalled at Scott so much, i think with ste moving on, and family issues he didnt want to be alone

scott is just wrong for him in so many ways

Yep and this is what separates them. Apart from Scott bring a complete baffoon, he really was the safe and easy option. He would be always be there for JP and never hurt him but he'd bore John Paul to tears in the end. Where as with James, it's complicated, it's messy and yeah James would be a huge risk but essentially he'll keep John Paul on this toes and wanting more.